Russian Hacking (You People are Idiots) Part 2

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woolfe9998

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This is fair, particularly in the everyday person at the water cooler or on internet message boards, though I'll observe the statements from media pundits and Republican politicians more carefully. I do not think they could credibly make that claim at this point. Most likely they will adopt it casually as if it were never denied in the first place and continue to benefit from their early denial work through the ongoing conspiracy theories of the less legitimate conservative media and know-it-alls on social media.

In other words, the conservative rank and file believe one thing, while their thought leaders know otherwise. This is undoubtedly true.
 

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Sadly, with the Repugs having majority in both the house and senate we will get none of this. Its party over country. Mueller is our only hope. This is what I don't think you are getting.

If we keep our eyes glued to it, then we will make this reality true. Here is my point. The American people have a choice to where they turn their attention. We don't have to watch reality TV when we can instead watch reality. It's not so personally fulfilling, dramatic, and it certainly isn't hopeful. But it's the right thing to do.
 

hal2kilo

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If we keep our eyes glued to it, then we will make this reality true. Here is my point. The American people have a choice to where they turn their attention. We don't have to watch reality TV when we can instead watch reality. It's not so personally fulfilling, dramatic, and it certainly isn't hopeful. But it's the right thing to do.
What is it exactly you are proposing? A big march in Washington? What actions can us lowly people do when 30+% of the population is enthralled with someone who has been an abject failure in the short period he's spent in office and with a party that willing to go along so they can perpetuate themselves.
 

brandonbull

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i'm curious if you really don't know that no uranium has been exported out of the US.

now that you do, what's the problem?

You sure about the no uranium has been exported out of the US? Or do you wish to change your answer? Hint, I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong.
 

brandonbull

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What is it exactly you are proposing? A big march in Washington? What actions can us lowly people do when 30+% of the population is enthralled with someone who has been an abject failure in the short period he's spent in office and with a party that willing to go along so they can perpetuate themselves.

I guess we can allow the Dims back in power so they can openly work with Russia, Iran, China, NK, and any number of hostile foreign governments to change America to the wishes of the highest bidder. We could also passively sit by and let the Dims import millions and millions of people from around the globe for their promise of voting Dim. Nothing like modern day indentured servitude. Vote Dim or else we won't bring you over from whatever unfortunate location you currently reside in.
 

woolfe9998

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You sure about the no uranium has been exported out of the US? Or do you wish to change your answer? Hint, I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong.

Rosatum doesn't have an export license for the uranium. If you believe they are exporting it in spite of this, please provide your source.
 
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What is it exactly you are proposing? A big march in Washington? What actions can us lowly people do when 30+% of the population is enthralled with someone who has been an abject failure in the short period he's spent in office and with a party that willing to go along so they can perpetuate themselves.

I had an attending when I was in residency, who, whenever a resident would express negative feelings about a patient whose hospitalization was related to substance abuse but had no realistic plan of quitting, would say "every day without drugs is a good day".
 
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I guess we can allow the Dims back in power so they can openly work with Russia, Iran, China, NK, and any number of hostile foreign governments to change America to the wishes of the highest bidder. We could also passively sit by and let the Dims import millions and millions of people from around the globe for their promise of voting Dim. Nothing like modern day indentured servitude. Vote Dim or else we won't bring you over from whatever unfortunate location you currently reside in.

Lordy!
 

Stokely

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Just ask yourself if this was Obama or Clinton helped to victory by Russia--what would the GOP and supporters' response be?

Wrath and righteous fury like you've never seen. There'd be calls for war against Russia etc etc

In other words: team ball.

It's like when your favorite NFL team picks up a dude who is very talented but just finished a 10-game suspension for beating his wife up. First game he has 3 sacks and you're there cheering your lungs out....if he had gone to a division rival, you're hoping he literally breaks his leg.
 

brandonbull

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Rosatum doesn't have an export license for the uranium. If you believe they are exporting it in spite of this, please provide your source.

In 2012, RSB Logistics Services obtained an export license to ship Uranium from the Uranium One's Willow Creek site.
 

Moonbeam

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How is a democracy that is governed by the opinion of the masses supposed to compete with systems governed by only the most capably cunning psychopaths that are able to rise through totalitarian systems. The only way a politician in America gets elected is by appealing to stupidity. All the cunning in America goes into making people stupid. Intellect, intellectualism, scholarship, rational thinking, logic and reason are all to be despised. I think the barn door opened long ago and the horses are gone. But then perhaps I spend too much time in the companionship of Maximillian of Northshire and his constant pleas that we destroy the world soon.
 

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I would have expected Russia to attempt influence no matter who was running. Whether that influence worked or not is more a sign of the weak minds of modern US citizens, too lazy and too short an attention span to think things through instead of just memorizing whatever nonsense is presented to them.

On the other hand it is to be expected. This is what we train children to do in formal school, throw info at them and demand regurgitation. It's become even worse at modern liberal universities where they simultaneously feign thought about the info but still demand you align with the politically correct agenda.

That seems to work because it's a bubble, funded by government and over a trillion in student loan debt. Idealism is easy when someone else is paying for it, then the older and further detached you get from that environment, the more you realize those who don't reap the fruit of that tree will get pissed off and vote for [Trump].
 

HomerJS

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Here's that I know about Russia hacking...

1. Trump asked the Russians in public to hack the Dems and that is collusion.
2. The US has not done enough to prevent this from happening again in 2018 as admitted by Jeff Sessions in a committee hearing
 

brycejones

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In 2012, RSB Logistics Services obtained an export license to ship Uranium from the Uranium One's Willow Creek site.

To Canada. The export license allows them to export uranium ore to Canada. Who in turns needs permission to send it anywhere other than back to the US after they process it.

Brandonbullshit anymore to add to the story or is round #10382 of Duhflection from Trump's actions over?

I'm guessing the 2nd half of the story wasn't covered in the talking points you got from Hannity.
 

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The saddest thing is that I don't think he has enough of a sense of humor to respond by noting that technically correct is the best kind of correct.
 

Moonbeam

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I had an attending when I was in residency, who, whenever a resident would express negative feelings about a patient whose hospitalization was related to substance abuse but had no realistic plan of quitting, would say "every day without drugs is a good day".
Starfish.
 

Moonbeam

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I have no ill wishes to Republicans. I would have to hate pretty much my entire family, but I wish the complete and total annihilation of the Republican party. I doubt I could be convinced this would not be a good idea.