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Russian drone destroys $1 BILLION in Ukranian ammo

madoka

madoka

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There's a video at the link that's worth watching.

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http://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...1/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/

A drone carrying a grenade infiltrated an ammunition dump in the Ukraine, setting off an explosion that caused an astounding billion dollars worth of damage. The incident points to the growing use of drones in wartime, particularly off the shelf civilian products harnessed to conduct sabotage and other attacks.

Ukraine's domestic intelligence service, the SBU, believes that a drone carrying a Russian thermite hand grenade caused a series of titanic explosions at Balakliya, a military base in Eastern Ukraine. Amateur video of the incident posted on YouTube shows a raging fire spewing out of control artillery rockets, and an explosion and shockwave that sent civilians nearby reeling.
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Woah. I always kinda figured that would eventually happen. Seems like such an easy thing to put a thermite based load on a consumer drone and go ignite it somewhere. Drop it on a HVAC rooftop unit near the gas line and you got yourself a nice boom. Or in this case a warehouse full of ammo.

Who are the good guys now days, Ukraine or Russia? I don't even know who I'm suppose to be rooting for!
 
Red Squirrel said:
Who are the good guys now days, Ukraine or Russia? I don't even know who I'm suppose to be rooting for!
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I have a buddy from the Ukraine. I may butcher this, but here it goes: he said when Russia fell (USSR?), they drew new Ukraine using lines half over the existing Ukraine and half over part of Russia. So now Russia wants their side back. My buddy is from the Russian side of the Ukraine. He is highly in favor of joining up with Putin's Russia because his side of the Ukraine is Russian, not Ukrainian.

I remember asking him why Putin was being a bad guy & invading and that was the answer he gave me. Something akin to if Mexico grabbed California as Mexico North, and then we invaded to take it back, because California is part of America. I was very surprised that he was very pro-Russian. He said everyone where he was from wanted to be a part of Russia again.

Apparently our world news gets more filtered than I realized.
 
Kaido said:
I have a buddy from the Ukraine. I may butcher this, but here it goes: he said when Russia fell (USSR?), they drew new Ukraine using lines half over the existing Ukraine and half over part of Russia. So now Russia wants their side back. My buddy is from the Russian side of the Ukraine. He is highly in favor of joining up with Putin's Russia because his side of the Ukraine is Russian, not Ukrainian.

I remember asking him why Putin was being a bad guy & invading and that was the answer he gave me. Something akin to if Mexico grabbed California as Mexico North, and then we invaded to take it back, because California is part of America. I was very surprised that he was very pro-Russian. He said everyone where he was from wanted to be a part of Russia again.

Apparently our world news gets more filtered than I realized.
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He's half right.

In the '40s and '50s, Stalin killed a bunch of Ukranians and then forced a bunch of Russians to go live where the dead people used to be.
 
dave_the_nerd said:
He's half right.

In the '40s and '50s, Stalin killed a bunch of Ukranians and then forced a bunch of Russians to go live where the dead people used to be.
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yep. It's how the Russians do. Putin and Gorbechev before him have long been chomping at the bit to invade the Baltics, claiming the same nonsense that their "native Russian" populations are being discriminated against in "their homeland," so they need Russian tanks to defend them....oh and to return stolen territory back to "mother russia."
 
dave_the_nerd said:
He's half right.

In the '40s and '50s, Stalin killed a bunch of Ukranians and then forced a bunch of Russians to go live where the dead people used to be.
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Ah, so the Russians in the Ukraine want to be part of Russian again, not necessarily because the land is legitimate Russian land, but because they're Russian, not Ukrainian. Makes sense.
 
Kaido said:
Ah, so the Russians in the Ukraine want to be part of Russian again, not necessarily because the land is legitimate Russian land, but because they're Russian, not Ukrainian. Makes sense.
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Yeah, it's like if we offed a bunch of Canadians in Saskatchewan, flooded the area with Americans, and then invaded to protect our native 'Muricans against the cultural oppression of excessive Canadian politeness.
 
Perknose said:
Yeah, it's like if we offed a bunch of Canadians in Saskatchewan, flooded the area with Americans, and then invaded to protect our native 'Muricans against the cultural oppression of excessive Canadian politeness.
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The politeness is unrelenting and brutal.
 
Kaido said:
I have a buddy from the Ukraine. I may butcher this, but here it goes: he said when Russia fell (USSR?), they drew new Ukraine using lines half over the existing Ukraine and half over part of Russia. So now Russia wants their side back. My buddy is from the Russian side of the Ukraine. He is highly in favor of joining up with Putin's Russia because his side of the Ukraine is Russian, not Ukrainian.

I remember asking him why Putin was being a bad guy & invading and that was the answer he gave me. Something akin to if Mexico grabbed California as Mexico North, and then we invaded to take it back, because California is part of America. I was very surprised that he was very pro-Russian. He said everyone where he was from wanted to be a part of Russia again.

Apparently our world news gets more filtered than I realized.
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Just curious about the last part, where do you get your news? I thought it was pretty well explained from the beginning that Crimea and some other disputed areas of Ukraine are culturally/ethnically Russian for the reasons listed above.
 
Perknose said:
Yeah, it's like if we offed a bunch of Canadians in Saskatchewan, flooded the area with Americans, and then invaded to protect our native 'Muricans against the cultural oppression of excessive Canadian politeness.
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Yes, it's important for people to realize things like this before they say our news is 'filtered'.

While we all know every country's news has its own bias and perspective the fact that his friend referred to the eastern half of Ukraine as part of Russia without mentioning the fact that Ukraine (and Crimea in particular) was the subject of Russian genocide and forced deportation, purposefully increasing the proportion of Russians there is pretty troubling. It could be that his friend didn't want to bring up that context, which is twisted, or it could be that he really doesn't know or think it's a big deal due to the sort of propaganda he's likely exposed to by Russian media.

Western media isn't great but it's light years better than the sort of propaganda you see out of Russian areas. I was in St. Petersburg and Moscow recently and the media you see there is just unbelievable. It's like living on another planet.
 
fskimospy said:
Yes, it's important for people to realize things like this before they say our news is 'filtered'.

While we all know every country's news has its own bias and perspective the fact that his friend referred to the eastern half of Ukraine as part of Russia without mentioning the fact that Ukraine (and Crimea in particular) was the subject of Russian genocide and forced deportation, purposefully increasing the proportion of Russians there is pretty troubling. It could be that his friend didn't want to bring up that context, which is twisted, or it could be that he really doesn't know or think it's a big deal due to the sort of propaganda he's likely exposed to by Russian media.

Western media isn't great but it's light years better than the sort of propaganda you see out of Russian areas. I was in St. Petersburg and Moscow recently and the media you see there is just unbelievable. It's like living on another planet.
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Based on what he said, it sounds like his perspective has been filtered by Russian propaganda.

And whereas before, you had to listen to people around you or network news, we now have Twitter & other sources of information, but we're also fighting things like fake news, thanks to how articles go viral so quickly on the Internet. Curious to see how things pan out long-term in terms of how fake news is able to be properly filtered in the future.
 
luv2liv said:
any idea what drone it was? i have a hard time believing it was a consumer drone like DJI.
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DJI is just the biggest name and one of the easiest for a new person to pick up on out of the box. There are plenty of other consumer drones that will lift considerably more weight. Hell people have been building their own drones long before DJI became a big name and I'd still consider those consumer drones since you can buy the parts at dozens of different online stores.
 
fskimospy said:
Western media isn't great but it's light years better than the sort of propaganda you see out of Russian areas. I was in St. Petersburg and Moscow recently and the media you see there is just unbelievable. It's like living on another planet.
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Our (American) news is certainly biased, and you can bitch about it, but holy Christ yes at least it's not the ridiculous propaganda coming out of somewhere like Russia. I kinda feel bad that those people are so horribly lied to by their government; it's like brainwashing. It's not just there but yeesh it's bad.
 
clamum said:
Our (American) news is certainly biased, and you can bitch about it, but holy Christ yes at least it's not the ridiculous propaganda coming out of somewhere like Russia. I kinda feel bad that those people are so horribly lied to by their government; it's like brainwashing. It's not just there but yeesh it's bad.
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We get the same thing here depending on where you look. We still have choices that folks like the Donald wish we didn't have or would ignore in favor of the right wing mind rot that's become all too prevalent.

That's the whole point of labeling the Media as the enemy of the people & fake news.
 
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