Russia Formally Busted for Hacking the DNC

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Jhhnn

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Feel free to explain what those harsh actions should be.



You put them there yourself. By suggesting Russia has a desired result and apparently calling us to act on it. To act on Russia's move. And you are so certain that they aren't using reverse psychology? How simple...

A proper electoral response is to vote without Russian influence.

Except that's impossible. They interjected themselves into our electoral processes with the release of hacked materials & did so quite knowingly. The only voters free of that are ones who never heard of it.

Yeh, sure, govts all over the world engage in cyber espionage, hoard the information gathered. Pushing it out into the public realm is a whole different level of endeavor.
 

Jhhnn

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That was, apparently, already done:


Moreover, "another act of aggression that must be dealt with harshly?" sounds like a call for offense, not defense.
Fskimospy makes it sound like we should attack Russia in some way for this.

I'll agree with you about that. What we need to do is to defend ourselves better.
 

fskimospy

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That was, apparently, already done:

Moreover, "another act of aggression that must be dealt with harshly?" sounds like a call for offense, not defense.
Fskimospy makes it sound like we should attack Russia in some way for this.

Of course we should attack them in some way, that's the point. Not militarily, but economically and in other ways. We all know that Putin almost certainly has a web of hidden assets, some of which are likely illegal. Start exposing those. Use the newly enacted sanctions regime targeted against North Korea and China to further weaken Russia's economy, etc.

If Russia wants to act like a rogue nation let's weaken its leadership and deny it the means to menace other countries. Sounds good?
 

Ackmed

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So what was this sentence then? Seems like from the sentence you arent upset at all. Seems like you think people should be upset about the "intelligence" released by russia.

Tell me. What proof is there that russia is accurately releasing un-doctered intel? Makes sense if they are attacking our election process to get a boob elected they would add things to the intel.

I thought it was pretty clear. It is my observation that people are more upset about Russia's allegedly hacking, than what the hacking actually exposed. The left side seems to down play what was shown, acting like it doesn't even matter. The both matter and are both terrible.

I suppose there is no hard proof. I would think if the emails were not true, the DNC would have said that showing the real emails. Fought it, denied it, etc. Yet none of that happened. DNC chairwomen was let go because of the emails, why not fight it then? One reason is that Hillary hired the corrupt woman for her campaign. And yet here we are with more emails being exposed putting Clinton yet again in a bad light, round and round we go. More corruption but apparently that isn't important either for leftist.
 

JSt0rm

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I thought it was pretty clear. It is my observation that people are more upset about Russia's allegedly hacking, than what the hacking actually exposed. The left side seems to down play what was shown, acting like it doesn't even matter. The both matter and are both terrible.

I suppose there is no hard proof. I would think if the emails were not true, the DNC would have said that showing the real emails. Fought it, denied it, etc. Yet none of that happened. DNC chairwomen was let go because of the emails, why not fight it then? One reason is that Hillary hired the corrupt woman for her campaign. And yet here we are with more emails being exposed putting Clinton yet again in a bad light, round and round we go. More corruption but apparently that isn't important either for leftist.


So you think russia hacking a political party is less important then what they allegedly exposed? Do you think this evidence would stand to be admissible in court after it was in russia's hands?
 

Jhhnn

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I thought it was pretty clear. It is my observation that people are more upset about Russia's allegedly hacking, than what the hacking actually exposed. The left side seems to down play what was shown, acting like it doesn't even matter. The both matter and are both terrible.

I suppose there is no hard proof. I would think if the emails were not true, the DNC would have said that showing the real emails. Fought it, denied it, etc. Yet none of that happened. DNC chairwomen was let go because of the emails, why not fight it then? One reason is that Hillary hired the corrupt woman for her campaign. And yet here we are with more emails being exposed putting Clinton yet again in a bad light, round and round we go. More corruption but apparently that isn't important either for leftist.

The problem is that the things you attribute to this recent release just aren't there. It's a nothingburger.

The fact that the Russians responded favorably to Donald's request for more of the same hacked information is the most significant part of it all. Maybe it heralds a whole new dimension to international relations.
 

JSt0rm

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even the worst republican candidate would condemn russia doing this because it makes them look presidential. Trump instead asked for more of the same like a 12th grade bully.