Russia Formally Busted for Hacking the DNC

[Perknose]

So.. to follow up, what response is proposed here?
Step up web security, add some sort of firewall between us and Russia, sanction Russia, attack them economically?
Or do we just wag our fingers and say "bad dog!"?

Denying their boy Trumpy Trump the Presidency by voting for Hillary Clinton would be a start. I'm in. You?

 

[ivwshane]

So.. to follow up, what response is proposed here?
Step up web security, add some sort of firewall between us and Russia, sanction Russia, attack them economically?
Or do we just wag our fingers and say "bad dog!"?

We can start by appointing someone who's job is to figure out a strategy for dealing with this twenty year old issue.


Oh that's right, your boy Obama has done that!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/02/09/fact-sheet-cybersecurity-national-action-plan


Do you even Google?

 

[master_shake_]

the good news is trump probably won't get to be president.

that bad news is hilary will.

not trump vs not clinton 2016!

the suspense is monotonous.

 

[MongGrel]

I'm surprised this has not been splattered all over yet.

Obama announces lifting of U.S. sanctions on Myanmar

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-myanmar-sanctions-idUSKCN127262

But promoting Democratically elected governments is not in vogue these days, even if they have a Muslim population.

 

[JSt0rm]

We do it all the time. Don't forget that.

grab that pussy and get ready.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I'm surprised this has not been splattered all over yet.

Obama announces lifting of U.S. sanctions on Myanmar

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-myanmar-sanctions-idUSKCN127262

But promoting Democratically elected governments is not in vogue these days, even if they have a Muslim population.

Unfortunately they happen to be oppressing that same Muslim population.

Some background:

http://www.economist.com/news/asia/...en-attacked-impunity-stripped-vote-and-driven

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nalism-is-rising-in-aung-san-suu-kyis-myanmar

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/angry-budd...ack-muslims-set-myanmar-mosque-ablaze-1568608

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/myanmar/report-myanmar/

 

[cytg111]

You should hand Obama a mulligan.. a putin-mulligan, that is 18-20 years more in office.

 

[evident]

Really shows how weak the gop is when it comes to national security

 

[Paratus]

grab that pussy and get ready.

Ok, now what?

 

[Thump553]

If one was purely partisan then perhaps they could excuse Russia from hacking the other political party, but how about their multiple efforts to hack official state voting systems? That is a direct attack upon our democracy and our politicians should speak with one voice on that. I guess it falls into the same category as voter suppression aka weeding out voter fraud-if it helps my guys (at least for now) I'm for it philosophy.

 

[fskimospy]

So.. to follow up, what response is proposed here?
Step up web security, add some sort of firewall between us and Russia, sanction Russia, attack them economically?
Or do we just wag our fingers and say "bad dog!"?

We are already attacking them economically, so we will keep doing that. This is just more reason not to let up until we make Putin squeal.

 

[Jhhnn]

We are already attacking them economically, so we will keep doing that. This is just more reason not to let up until we make Putin squeal.

That benefits Ukrainian & Russian people how, exactly?

Both have suffered terribly at the hands of corrupt govt & the international lootocracy of which their oligarchs are obviously members.

Do we play the Ukrainians as a sacrificial pawn in the great game or do they come to their senses?

 

[theeedude]

Ukraine supports sanctions on Russia. Russian people support Putin. All is good. Plus most damaging sanctions have been the ones the Russian government put in place on their own people.

 

[fskimospy]

That benefits Ukrainian & Russian people how, exactly?

Both have suffered terribly at the hands of corrupt govt & the international lootocracy of which their oligarchs are obviously members.

Do we play the Ukrainians as a sacrificial pawn in the great game or do they come to their senses?

What action do you suggest instead?

 

[Jaskalas]

Denying their boy Trumpy Trump the Presidency by voting for Hillary Clinton would be a start. I'm in. You?

So you are adamant in letting Russia influence the election, and will campaign on this very premise? That Russia's actions should choose for us?

 

[Perknose]

So you are adamant in letting Russia influence the election, and will campaign on this very premise? That Russia's actions should choose for us?

Please don't put words in my mouth. I stated above the most direct and absolute repudiation of what they attempted, to render their pathetic attempt moot. What would your response be?

 

[fskimospy]

So you are adamant in letting Russia influence the election, and will campaign on this very premise? That Russia's actions should choose for us?

No, he's adamant in not allowing them to get their desired result. Don't you agree that Russia's attack on our electoral system is yet another act of aggression that must be dealt with harshly?

 

[Jhhnn]

Coming back to the original topic, which is really cyber security, we just need to find much better ways to achieve it. I don't know what that will take, but we need to be prepared to spend money to achieve it wrt our Govt & make it part of the way that private entities operate as well. Or we can spend our money on other things like a bloated military & the American equivalent of bunkers in Albania, Trump's wall.

 

[Ackmed]

I think it is pretty damn relevant to know if foreign governments are hacking US officials, don't you?

Of course I do, did I say otherwise? Every attempt should be made to find out who is behind hacking such as this, and then if proved who did it, deal with them appropriately.

Yeah who cares about foreign governments trying to affect our elections. As long as it's my guy who gets the benefit I'm good.

When did I say that I don't care that foreign government may have tried to affect our elections? I didn't. I also have never claimed Trump to be "my guy". Stop spouting lies, and posting ignorance. Don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say.

What's sad is you opening your gob to let that pearl drop out, Komrade...

Oh look, more insults and ignorance.

Typical responses for those that say something that those that appear to be on the left don't like. I never once said that hacking was ok. I simply stated that the left appears to be ok with what the hacking showed, and the real story is that who did it. Spinning away from the DNC of being guilty. But thats ok, because Russia did it, seems to be the message I read around here. The hacking showed corruption and trying to rig the election. Then it showed the Clinton campaign hire the person who got caught in the emails. Not distancing itself from the person, but instead bringing them into the fold.

 

[JSt0rm]

It's sad that more people are upset about who did it, than the truth that it exposed.

So what was this sentence then? Seems like from the sentence you arent upset at all. Seems like you think people should be upset about the "intelligence" released by russia.

Tell me. What proof is there that russia is accurately releasing un-doctered intel? Makes sense if they are attacking our election process to get a boob elected they would add things to the intel.

 

[Jaskalas]

No, he's adamant in not allowing them to get their desired result. Don't you agree that Russia's attack on our electoral system is yet another act of aggression that must be dealt with harshly?

Feel free to explain what those harsh actions should be.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I stated above the most direct and absolute repudiation of what they attempted, to render their pathetic attempt moot. What would your response be?

You put them there yourself. By suggesting Russia has a desired result and apparently calling us to act on it. To act on Russia's move. And you are so certain that they aren't using reverse psychology? How simple...

A proper electoral response is to vote without Russian influence.

 

[JSt0rm]

um the response would be to Manhattan project a defense of our voting system.

 

[Thump553]

um the response would be to Manhattan project a defense of our voting system.

That was supposed to have happened with GWB's reform bill post 2000 election, but all that did was get us off the unhackable mechanical voting machines.

 

[JSt0rm]

Well yeah. Anything GWB does is gonna be a horrible disaster. Was there anything that he did that turned out to be good? Serious question.

 

[Jaskalas]

um the response would be to Manhattan project a defense of our voting system.

That was, apparently, already done:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/02/09/fact-sheet-cybersecurity-national-action-plan

Do you even Google?

Moreover, "another act of aggression that must be dealt with harshly?" sounds like a call for offense, not defense.
Fskimospy makes it sound like we should attack Russia in some way for this.