When he started posting here ProfJohn claimed he was a Professor of the EIB .. aka Rushes network, then soon after distanced himself from that statement.
On the original topic, that is typical Rush, make an unsupported statement, then go off about how it sounds true, and insinuate it is the the truth however unsupported it really is. What matters is a certain amount of dittoheads heard the first part and believe it and share it with their friends. I bet there are already chain emails being sent out talking about Obama's thesis paper and how un-American / un-conservative it is.
This only goes to prove that if you have some batshit theory in your pea brain, there's always going to be something on the Internet that you can find to support it.
That's the issue, they are proud of being fools because they are getting paid big bucks to be a fool.
Hannity used to be sane in Atlanta before the Republicans waved big money in his face.
No he gladly acts like a buffoon for the money.
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Why do you hate the First Amendment? You should leave my country pronto. I hear Chavez might like your ideas.
While I support free speech I don't support the spread of lies and mistruths under the guise of news. Are you saying it's fine to buy the truth? Far too many people take everything that people like Rush spew as truth and that makes our country weaker, not stronger. This goes for both sides of the aisle.
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There are still laws against libel. The 1st amendment does not give carte blanche to do whatever you want.
I'm not suggesting that Rush libeled against Obama. He's just an idiot who will do anything for money.
blackangst1
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If
then why say
There was no libel involved. If there was, prosecute away. I wouldnt know, as I rarely listen to Rush and just read accounts of the situation. What Rush said is no worse than most on here said about Bush. All protected by the first amendment.
Nothing to see here really. Oh gee you dont like what someone said on the radio. Boo hoo put your big boy pants on and turn the dial. I honestly dont think anyone here wants retribution towards Rush because theyre so offended by his remarks, but rather they disagree with him and just want him to get into a train wreck. Who fucking cares?
But statements like his (Rush) turn elections regardless of the truth. I guess as long as your guy wins it doesn't matter. That is the damage I spoke of.
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You mean like how the Democrats have been telling their base for the last 20 years that the Republicans are going to take away their social security and Medicaid? Like that you mean? No one's ever goven a fuck about that lie.
Im not trying to turn this into a R vs D thing. Im just saying far worse has been said by politicians about their own opponents. Both sides are guilty of this. Rush's comments really werent that bad.
Rush and Rather can't be compared. Rather counterfeits did not reflect facts. Obama's so called "thesis" does.
From "thesis"
".. the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy."
From Obama radio interview:
"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you, but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf."
He said since courts and Constitution failed to enact redistribution (Marxism) and could not be relied upon to do so, people had to be "organized" to acquire redistribution:
"I am not optimistic about bringing about redistributive change through the courts. The institution just isn't structured that way... One of the I think tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributed change and in some ways we still suffer from that."
Obama is like Chavez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
Rush and the rest are pretty desperate- they need ammunition, but can't come up with much of it, so they'll pounce on most anything that seems plausible to them.
Therein lies the problem- their sense of what's plausible. And, let's face it, they don't have to maintain any sort of credibility to keep their audience, being the high tech political equivalent of tent revivalist faith healers...
Therein lies the problem- their sense of what's plausible. And, let's face it, they don't have to maintain any sort of credibility to keep their audience, being the high tech political equivalent of tent revivalist faith healers...
I can say the exact same thing about almost all, if not every single one, of our elected officials at the Federal level. Now I am not defending Rush in the least. I don't give a damn about him one way or the other but if you are truly concerned with false and harmful ideology harming our nation you should start with everyone in the Congress, Senate and Executive branch.
Then again, we want to be lied to so I guess its just as much our fault.
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yeap. IF a someone running for office told the people the truth there is NO way in hell he would win. let alone stay in power long enough to get anything really done.
then again curruption and greed is a human fact. but hell it is really hurting the nation. i always imagian "what if" people in the goverment did everything what was for the better of the US and not when it benifits them.
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I probably could. Ive heard enough of Air America to know it happens there too. This is a bash Rush thread though. We could turn it into a general "talk show hosts that get a whiff of something and run with it only to be punked"? THAT would be a fun thread!
Please do:
Bernie Sanders
John Edwards
Henry Waxman
Robert Wexler
Pete Stark
Dennis Kucinich
I agree there are plenty in Washington who are big problems - and in all parties, but not equally.
We have entire movements, think tanks, funding for pushing lies that serve certain interests.
You mention the executive branch, though - you can find people good and bad there, too.
On the bad list, put people like Robert Rubin, (most of the Bush adminstration, since they were so carefull selected for these flaws), I 'd lean towards putting Rahm Emanuel on the list, etc; on the other hand, look at people such as Elizabeth Warren (though she represents Congress), the head of the FICA who has called for ending 'too big to fail', the woman portrayed in last week's Frontline who tried to warn about the dangers of Wall Street derivatives and was forced out.
You can't say the same thing about 'all' the members of Congress or the executive branch.
El oh el. Blackangst at his debating finest.
However, finding one example for an entire network doesn't make a comparison.
But if he can come up with, say, three examples from, say, the Thom Hartmann show in all its years, I'll give him credit for that. I'd say there's little question he can't and won't.
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