running OS X on a PC...can it be done??? I need to know!

Gosnell

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I'm looking for a way to install Mac OS X on my PC. Does anyone know of any possible way this can be done? Is there any emulator out there that can do it? Something like Virtual PC, except switched around, so that you can run OS X on the PC rather than Windows on the Mac. If this can be done, would I be able to run Apple only peripherals, such as iSight (which is my main incentive for wanting to do this)?

Currently, iSight is not supported on Windows...there aren't any drivers for it. Does anyone know if there's an iSight driver out for Linux? Or possibly one in the making. Basically, any info on how I can get iSight to run on a computer that isn't a Macintosh would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 

00Jones

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no, you can run Darwin on your X86. but you can not have the Aqua GUI. And none of the GUI apps will work with Darwin with out Aqua.
 

Gosnell

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What about the theory regaurding a programmer making an iSight driver for Linux? Would that be a "no" as well?
 

00Jones

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That can be done, and probably is at the moment, just like with the iPod. People made drivers for it for windows long before Apple released drivers for it.
 

Gosnell

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I'm not savvy at all on the Linux scene. Where would be a good place to ask around to see if an iSight driver for Linux is in the making? I'm guessing these forums would be a good start. Anywhere else? If these drivers came out, would iSight function properly when used with a remote client on a Mac? By that I mean, you wouldn't be limited to video chatting only with people who are running it on their Linux boxes, correct?

Thanks.
 

00Jones

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Just search around google and there newsgroups. I looked a little, but didn't find anything that is very useful.
 

Gosnell

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Originally posted by: 00Jones
no, you can run Darwin on your X86. but you can not have the Aqua GUI. And none of the GUI apps will work with Darwin with out Aqua.
Thanks for the help Jones. I've got some more questions, if you don't mind...

What does GUI stand for? Would I be able to use iChat AV (Apple's version of AOL Instant Messenger that integrates the iSight) running Darwin, or does that require the Aqua GUI, as well?
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Originally posted by: Gosnell
Originally posted by: 00Jones
no, you can run Darwin on your X86. but you can not have the Aqua GUI. And none of the GUI apps will work with Darwin with out Aqua.
Thanks for the help Jones. I've got some more questions, if you don't mind...

What does GUI stand for? Would I be able to use iChat AV (Apple's version of AOL Instant Messenger that integrates the iSight) running Darwin, or does that require the Aqua GUI, as well?

Graphical User Interface

If it's made by apple, runs on a mac, and needs a gui, then it needs Mac OS.
 

Gosnell

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Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Graphical User Interface

If it's made by apple, runs on a mac, and needs a gui, then it needs Mac OS.

Thus, iChat AV will not work on anything but a genuine Macintosh, correct? Does this mean that it also cannot be ported to Linux by a third party programmer?
 

drag

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It means that their will probably never be a port. Unless Apple is going to release it open source or something it's not going to happen.

But then you have nice stuff like Gaim in the mean time to keep you happy.

Gaim is a multi-protocol instant messaging client for Linux, BSD, MacOS X, and Windows. It is compatible with AIM (Oscar and TOC protocols), ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo, IRC, Jabber, Gadu-Gadu, and Zephyr networks.

Gaim users can log in to multiple accounts on multiple IM networks simultaneously. This means that you can be chatting with friends on AOL Instant Messenger, talking to a friend on Yahoo Messenger, and sitting in an IRC channel all at the same time.

The core darwin part is BSD and has been ported, the OS X/Aqua stuff is as propriatory as any other OS that Apple has ever made. You could have hope, I heard a while ago the apple was planning to $ell some of it's nicer bits of OS X to windows users as a way to infultrate that market and get people familar with what Apple can do for them. Stuff like iMovie and such, but I don't know what has come of it.
 

dawks

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Theres also the issues of Codecs and such, which would also most likely need to be ported to x86 and Linux/Windows for iSight and iChat to work properly, that is if Apple is willing to release/license the code..

There are OTHER netcams available.. sure the iSight is cool.. but this is part of Apples business model. Make really cool stuff and keep it exclusive.. 'forcing' you to buy a mac system.