Runaway Bride Indicted

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Phoenix86

Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: y2kc
they simply should have billed her for the cost of the search and left it go.
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did she sign anything authorizing a search?
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No, she reported herself kidnapped to a cop. What'd she expect? What would *any* reasonable person expect? None of that is relevant though, she committed a crime. She filed a false report to a cop, and not a beat cop, the police chief.

Don't split hairs.
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I'm not sure how all this went down, but if it went down as she made these false statements after the fact, then she should not be liable for the search. If she made the statements in the beginning and then a search pursued then she would be liable. What would of happened had she ran away, and then a week or two later just returned home, no police statements or anything. She wouldn't be liable for any silly search.
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Your making this way more difficult than it needs to be. She committed a crime, she should pay for that crime...

If the fine associated with that crime is within the cost of the search it's reasonable to make the search costs the total of the fine, great.

What's wrong with that?

edit: More importantly is your attitude "did she sign anything authorizing a search?" Who the fvck authorizes a search when they are kidnapped? How the hell could they even do that? You aren't even being reasonable.
 
Red Dawn

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Aharami
wow. i think she should pay...but not by giving up 5 years of her life. maybe she should be ordered to pay back all the money that was spent looking for her and the money for the investigation caused by her false report.
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Or by marrying the inbred Sunday School Teacher she was engaged too
 
KK

KK

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Your making this way more difficult than it needs to be. She committed a crime, she should pay for that crime...

If the fine associated with that crime is within the cost of the search it's reasonable to make the search costs the total of the fine, great.

What's wrong with that?

edit: More importantly is your attitude "did she sign anything authorizing a search?" Who the fvck authorizes a search when they are kidnapped? How the hell could they even do that? You aren't even being reasonable.
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If she made a false statement to police in georgia, then she could be fined for that based upon what the penalties for making a false statement are. I, like the poster that wrote the letter to the DA, did not know about this statement made in GA, just about some statement out west. If she only made a false statement out west, then GA would be SOL on recouping anything.
 
Phoenix86

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: KK
If she made a false statement to police in georgia, then she could be fined for that based upon what the penalties for making a false statement are. I, like the poster that wrote the letter to the DA, did not know about this statement made in GA, just about some statement out west. If she only made a false statement out west, then GA would be SOL on recouping anything.
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She made the report from New Mexico to the police chief in Georgia over the phone. The legal hairs being split as to "where the crime occured" is kinda moot in my mind, though it may matter a lot in court.

The way I see it, she committed a crime in both states, and likely violated federal interstate commerce laws because she used a phone to commit an interstate crime. I don't think the fed should get involved by any means, but there is plenty of ground to seek action. Since Georgia is the most impacted, so that's where legal actions should happen.
 
KK

KK

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: KK
If she made a false statement to police in georgia, then she could be fined for that based upon what the penalties for making a false statement are. I, like the poster that wrote the letter to the DA, did not know about this statement made in GA, just about some statement out west. If she only made a false statement out west, then GA would be SOL on recouping anything.
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She made the report from New Mexico to the police chief in Georgia over the phone. The legal hairs being split as to "where the crime occured" is kinda moot in my mind, though it may matter a lot in court.

The way I see it, she committed a crime in both states, and likely violated federal interstate commerce laws because she used a phone to commit an interstate crime. I don't think the fed should get involved by any means, but there is plenty of ground to seek action. Since Georgia is the most impacted, so that's where legal actions should happen.
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Okay, I can understand where you are coming from. Now if she never made any reports to anyone, what happens?
 
Phoenix86

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: KK
If she made a false statement to police in georgia, then she could be fined for that based upon what the penalties for making a false statement are. I, like the poster that wrote the letter to the DA, did not know about this statement made in GA, just about some statement out west. If she only made a false statement out west, then GA would be SOL on recouping anything.
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She made the report from New Mexico to the police chief in Georgia over the phone. The legal hairs being split as to "where the crime occured" is kinda moot in my mind, though it may matter a lot in court.

The way I see it, she committed a crime in both states, and likely violated federal interstate commerce laws because she used a phone to commit an interstate crime. I don't think the fed should get involved by any means, but there is plenty of ground to seek action. Since Georgia is the most impacted, so that's where legal actions should happen.
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Okay, I can understand where you are coming from. Now if she never made any reports to anyone, what happens?
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Moveon.org? *rimshot*
;)
 
Linflas

Linflas

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Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: tami
i think she deserves her punishment, not for making false statements, but for all the resources that were pooled into the efforts of finding her. at this point, it's nothing but a lesson for her and for other people considering doing the same thing. i'm glad that her punishment started with her making these false statements. i hope she learns from her mistake.

i think her sentencing should also include mandatory psychotherapy, because the woman has issues.
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What law did she break prior to making the false statements in Georgia? As an adult she has the absolute right to disappear if she wants to. Once again I feel compelled to point out that prior to 24X7 cable news coverage adults used to go missing all the time without massive searches being launched absent some physical evidence of foul play.
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You're only saying this because SHE lied and ranaway. But if she was kidnapped and she was found again thanks to CNN's coverage, you would probably be singing a different tune.

Personally i don't have a problem with this. If i get bored of it, you know what i do? I change the channel!
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Not at all. I could care less if CNN/Fox covered this 24x7, that is their right. If the community wants to make themselves feel better by conducting massive manhunts everytime an adult turns up missing that is their right as well. What absolutely is not their right is to charge an adult that wants to disappear with a violation of the law unless they did something fraudulent to instigate the investigation. It is my absolute right to fall off the face of the planet if I so desire as long as my legal obligations (bills, mortgages etc) are covered.
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Well then don't blame CNN, but the judicial system and the family. Even if CNN hadn't been interested, and the family themselves started a manhunt and used police resources in the search, and then she lied about being kidnapped, she probably still would have suffered some consequences.

And very few people, at least normal people, disappear and 'fall off the face of the planet' without ANY warnings or messages to anybody. You guys act like it's CNN that forces you this stuff... they're only reporting what would bring them higher viewership, and people watch what they're interested in. I usually watch CNN, but during this time, i didn't... why? Because it didn't interest me... at least until it was discovered she lied, then it was hilarious.
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There is a difference between blaming CNN/Fox and noting that there is a correlation between the rise of 24x7 news coverage and government authorities reactions to this coverage. The correlation is what I am noting, I don't blame anyone other than the people that bring pressure to bear on local authorities and the authorities themselves for not even trying to be leaders rather than reacting to the fad of the moment. These people are the ones that ultimately force the authorities to react to every missing adult as if they were spirited off by the boogey man.

Once again I do not blame the new organizations for covering this stuff, they have 24 hours to fill so it is bound to happen. Nor would I have any problem with the woman being prosecuted for the false kidnapping story if that is done by the jurisdiction she actually committed the crime in. I have a very real problem with her being held responsible for the efforts by the Georgia authorities to find her. They chose to do that without any instigation on her part and they can bear the cost of it.
 
Sphexi

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: y2kc
they simply should have billed her for the cost of the search and left it go.
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did she sign anything authorizing a search?
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she called in a false report saying she was kidnapped.

she left without telling anyone (you can't tell me she didnt expect to be searched for?). she had the ticket in advance.

she is just a spoiled brat. i doubt very much she had any idea at the cost of this. but getting sued should really teach her.
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Exactly. And BTW, she gave a false report to GA authorities when she called them, she told them she had been kidnapped. That's what they're going on here, not what she told NM authorities.
 
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Amplifier

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You guys don't get the point. The OP was/is pissed that the state of Georgia is going out of their juristiction for political reasons.

It would be like Maryland bringing Ray Lewis to trial for something he did in Atlanta.
 
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IBuyUFO

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Originally posted by: Linflas
I agree 100% with the OP. This woman is guilty of nothing in Georgia. All of the actions undertaken by the local Georgia authorities took place without any statements from her at all.
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Wait, so if your fiance goes missing without a word you would not call the police and you would not even try to look for her? If my wife went missing I would want the police to do everything they can to find her. That is just insane that you think that way.
 
waggy

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Amplifier
You guys don't get the point. The OP was/is pissed that the state of Georgia is going out of their juristiction for political reasons.

It would be like Maryland bringing Ray Lewis to trial for something he did in Atlanta.
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Actually she lied to Georgia police. that is the problem. even though she was not in the state should not matter.

 
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Ulfwald

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This woman has also been arrested and prosecuted for shoplifting 3 times. One of those times was a FELONY shoplifting charge. Plus the lawyer who is defending her is the judge who at one time handled one of her shoplifting cases. This lawyer is also the one who defended the guy who shut down Hartsfield airport by running through the airport security checkpoints because he was going to miss his flight to go see the Georgia Bulldogs football game.
 
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dmcowen674

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: KK
The way I feel is if anything, which ever police agency she gave a false report has the right to press charges. About recouping the charge for the hunt, she didn't ask for them to do that, it's her right as a citizen to take off and not tell anybody. The news agencies if anybody would be the ones to pay for the search since they are the ones to blow this story completely out of proportion.
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The only reason it cost them "extra" for the hunt was because her family has both Gwinnett and Hall County Political ties.

The Gwinnett D.A. thinks he is trying to save face but he is throwing gasoline on an already raging fire.


 
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