run SETI on citrix

[TranSoft]

Hey fellow @homers...
I'm a newbie and just started so maybe you guys can help.
I have like 2 box (p3 700Mhz) running seti at work
I have 1 (xp1800) running at home...
I plan on hooking up a couple more boxes from work as well so I can crank 10WU a day...

Well i also do have a citrix account but i'm not sure what the server end is... I was thinking of running SETI on there but I'm not too sure if it will work or if it will crash the server or anything... Any ideas about running seti on citrix?

 

[Assimilator1]

Never heard of citrix so here's a bump

Btw re your 3 current rigs I would of thought you'd get about 10WUs/day from them already ,thats assuming they run 24/7?

 

[TranSoft]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Never heard of citrix so here's a bump

Btw re your 3 current rigs I would of thought you'd get about 10WUs/day from them already ,thats assuming they run 24/7?

really? 10WUs a day with what i have? Maybe something is wrong... i'm getting like 1 WU per 10 hours. on my P3s
and maybe like 4 hours on my XP1800 for 1 WU. ok yea!!! so about 10WU/day.

citrix is like connecting into your work computer from home or anywhere outside of the main office.

 

[RaySun2Be]

Several things:

1. Make sure you have (in writing if possible) approval to run SETI on the work machines.

2. You would have to install SETI on the Citrix Server, with permission of course. Depending on how heavily your Citrix Server is being used, the SETI client may not get many CPU cycles, so it could take a long time for a WU. And it doesn't play nice with Outlook, so that could end up causing problems. What I did for our Citrix Server was to install as a service, then create scheduled jobs to start and stop the service, so it would only run in the evenings and weekends, when no one was using the Citrix Server.

And for those unfamiliar with Citrix, it's a beefed up version of Windows Terminal Server or Terminal Services, which now is built into Windows 2K Server. Well, to be factual, Terminal Server started out as a licensed product from Citrix, so Terminal Server got it's start from Citrix, and didn't have all the features as Citrix, so that there would still be a market for Citrix.

Basically, you install all apps on the server, and then users install a client on their PC, that sends keyboard, video, and mouse changes back and forth. It can also do file transfers and printing. So in effect, it's like a mainframe with dumb terminals. One of the advantages is that you can run beefy applications without having huge investments in desktop hardware.

OK, everyone can now wake up and go about your business.....

 

[TranSoft]

Originally posted by: RaySun2Be
Several things:

1. Make sure you have (in writing if possible) approval to run SETI on the work machines.

2. You would have to install SETI on the Citrix Server, with permission of course. Depending on how heavily your Citrix Server is being used, the SETI client may not get many CPU cycles, so it could take a long time for a WU. And it doesn't play nice with Outlook, so that could end up causing problems. What I did for our Citrix Server was to install as a service, then create scheduled jobs to start and stop the service, so it would only run in the evenings and weekends, when no one was using the Citrix Server.

And for those unfamiliar with Citrix, it's a beefed up version of Windows Terminal Server or Terminal Services, which now is built into Windows 2K Server. Well, to be factual, Terminal Server started out as a licensed product from Citrix, so Terminal Server got it's start from Citrix, and didn't have all the features as Citrix, so that there would still be a market for Citrix.

Basically, you install all apps on the server, and then users install a client on their PC, that sends keyboard, video, and mouse changes back and forth. It can also do file transfers and printing. So in effect, it's like a mainframe with dumb terminals. One of the advantages is that you can run beefy applications without having huge investments in desktop hardware.

OK, everyone can now wake up and go about your business.....

wow thanks... but i won't have permission to run it. i guess i'll just leave that option out of sight for the moment.

another newbie question... can i stop /close my computer and reboot and continue to process the WU or will it be a new WU that i have to do...?

 

[RaySun2Be]

When you restart SETI (or if it automatically starts up) it will continue to work on the existing WU until completion.

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: TranSoft

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Never heard of citrix so here's a bump

Btw re your 3 current rigs I would of thought you'd get about 10WUs/day from them already ,thats assuming they run 24/7?

really? 10WUs a day with what i have? Maybe something is wrong... i'm getting like 1 WU per 10 hours. on my P3s
and maybe like 4 hours on my XP1800 for 1 WU. ok yea!!! so about 10WU/day.

citrix is like connecting into your work computer from home or anywhere outside of the main office.

I would of thought the PIII 700s would do WUs in about 9-9.5hrs ,I have a Cel 366@550 that does them in 10.5hrs & 2 work rigs (PIII 800s) that do them in 8.5-9hrs.Mind you thats assuming they don't have much cpu useage by other apps

Ray
Thanks for the info ,I'm sure that'll come in handy one day when I leave mechanics & join IT !

 

[networkman]

Ah, good to see RaySun2Be made it in here to address the Citrix questions.. he's certified in it, I'm not - yet. But yeah, if you think along the lines of Windows Terminal Services, that'll give you an idea of what Citrix is and can do.

The library where I work is heavily invested in Citrix to leverage the 500+ machines we serve, the majority of which are in the Pentium 166 to PentiumII 350 range. Fortunately, Citrix does a GREAT job in allowing us to extend the life of our older equipment - a very good thing, given the current state of the economy.

My boss had tried running the CLI client on a couple of the Citrix servers but we found that even the CLI would not play nicely with Microsoft Outlook no matter how we configured it; eventually, we pulled SETI entirely as we needed the extra cycles even for some maintenance routines at night.

 

[Assimilator1]

Hey NWM ,I hear the GUI has a lower priority than the CLI version ,have you tried that?

 

[networkman]

Interesting if true, but given the current state of our servers and load they're carrying, I highly doubt that SETI will get re-loaded onto any of them. Not a big deal TA-wise either as I've been unable to convince the boss to join the account to our team.

I continue to run SETI on the P4-2.6 at my desk, but I'm not allowed to run it on any other boxes even during off hours. :disgust:

 

[TranSoft]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1

Originally posted by: TranSoft

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Never heard of citrix so here's a bump

Btw re your 3 current rigs I would of thought you'd get about 10WUs/day from them already ,thats assuming they run 24/7?

really? 10WUs a day with what i have? Maybe something is wrong... i'm getting like 1 WU per 10 hours. on my P3s
and maybe like 4 hours on my XP1800 for 1 WU. ok yea!!! so about 10WU/day.

citrix is like connecting into your work computer from home or anywhere outside of the main office.

I would of thought the PIII 700s would do WUs in about 9-9.5hrs ,I have a Cel 366@550 that does them in 10.5hrs & 2 work rigs (PIII 800s) that do them in 8.5-9hrs.Mind you thats assuming they don't have much cpu useage by other apps

Ray
Thanks for the info ,I'm sure that'll come in handy one day when I leave mechanics & join IT !

Wow you network GURUS!!! Thank you all for the info.
yeah my rigs aren't totally free for running seti only... there's virus scanners and novell client running in the background...
but probably by next week, i'll have at least 2 more p3s to add onto the teAm. those will be running on xp and will spend the rest of it's life under my supervision crunching out WUs.
i here unix or linux (OS) are better performers for SETI than windows... is that true?

 

[networkman]

Which version Novell client are you using? Just curious.. I used to be heavily into Novell back in the 4.x days, with a little 5.x, but haven't kept up with it.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: TranSoft
i here unix or linux (OS) are better performers for SETI than windows... is that true?

Not necessarily true in all (any?) cases. The native SETI client for Linux is significantly slower than that for Windows, to the point that running the Windows SETI CLI under Linux through the WINE emulator is a good deal faster than running the native Linux CLI without emulation. This is not Linux fault exactly, as I understand it, but rather that the SETI people didn't use the proper optimizations when compiling the Linux CLI.

 

[TranSoft]

Originally posted by: networkman
Which version Novell client are you using? Just curious.. I used to be heavily into Novell back in the 4.x days, with a little 5.x, but haven't kept up with it.

novell 6.1 ? i think that's it.