[RumorTT] AMD Radeon HD8970 a quick refresh product

[Eric_C]

I hope that if AMD does a quickie refresh, they don't call it the Radeon 8970. I would prefer that they call it a 7980, since it's not supposed to be a major departure from the 7970. Also, IMO, the GTX 580 should be called the GTX 485.

It will come right after Kepler with enough performance to make you buy it.

 

[videoclone]

It will come right after Kepler with enough performance to make you buy it.

Thats the whole point of the release.. and if it was named the HD8970 its also another reason to make you want to buy it... to name it anything else would be silly holding it back form making a few more sales... money talks in the end

Oh and then the HD8990 will come out shortly after, with the HD9970 well into Development and close to release itself! its never ending

 

[Joseph F]

It still won't be over 9000 though. I'm holding out.

AMD's been over 9000 since 2002. :awe:

 

[tech97]

well , what do you think they will call the generation after 9000 series ??

 

[railven]

AMD's been over 9000 since 2002. :awe:

GF be damned and unless I'm married then with a kid or something - I will buy a Radeon HD 9870 DAY 1!

I'd love it if it got a special throwback name: Radeon HD 9800 XT!

EDIT: I'd assume it would be the top tier card too :/

 

[dust]

well , what do you think they will call the generation after 9000 series ??

They'll probably switch with Nvidia, so the new Radeons will be GTX 1XX

 

[formulav8]

Maybe x990,x980,x970;ect.... or something. Way back when, after the 9xxx numbers ran out they used the x in the model number which denoted a 10. So maybe they will do something like that again....?

 

[Arkadrel]

well , what do you think they will call the generation after 9000 series ??

Im partial to seeing them just continue with the 9000->10,000.
Maybe its too geeky? >_> I like it better than X this, or icard number i9xx something, though.

10k99 ((k) as in kilo=1000, so 10,990)
10k97
10k95
10k87
10k85
...
..
.
.

ect

that way next gen after:

11k99
11k97
11k95
...
..
.


I also predict we ll be seeing some of those Vegita pictures of "Its over 9000's!" when the 9k series launches lmao.

 

[railven]

Think they'll ever go the car route or Madden route? Just throw the year's model number into the name? Radeon HD 2012 x970 top end single-gpu model and HD 2012 x530 for low models? Then repeat with next year's number? And if they have two releases in one year, just use the following year's number since that is the year it is intended to compete in? I dunno.

 

[Gothgar]

Shit, with this news I may just wait it out....

The 6870 still runs everything fine at my resolution

 

[Gothgar]

Im partial to seeing them just continue with the 9000->10,000.
Maybe its too geeky? >_> I like it better than X this, or icard number i9xx something, though.

10k99 ((k) as in kilo=1000, so 10,990)
10k97
10k95
10k87
10k85
...
..
.
.

ect

that way next gen after:

11k99
11k97
11k95
...
..
.


I also predict we ll be seeing some of those Vegita pictures of "Its over 9000's!" when the 9k series launches lmao.

jahahah

Which Video card should I get, the GTX 790 or the 9990

Get the OVER NINE THOUSAND ONE!!!!

What NINE THOUSAND??????

 

[96Firebird]

10k99 ((k) as in kilo=1000, so 10,990)
10k97
10k95
10k87
10k85

Reminds me of McMaster Carr part numbers...

 

[MrTeal]

GF be damned and unless I'm married then with a kid or something - I will buy a Radeon HD 9870 DAY 1!

I'd love it if it got a special throwback name: Radeon HD 9800 XT!

EDIT: I'd assume it would be the top tier card too :/

I just sold a 9600 XT the other day. Maybe I should have kept it a few more years.

 

[arredondo]

from what OP is saying, sounds like AMD intentionally just release enough of a gpu to take the fastest gpu crown then is 'secretly' holding onto a faster product that can compete against kepler when time comes. That would mean AMD has really made leaps and bounds w/ their new design but is just looking to make a little money by release only enough to make users upgrade, then release another soon after to make user upgrade again. bit of jerk strategy in my opinion but maybe good for their bottom line. however, i think they can do this because there's really nothing else to compete against it at the moment kepler will be in Q2/2012 that's quite a while from now.

In the scenario you describe, the problem is with the person who upgrades from 7970 to the 8970, not with AMD for putting product on the market. Just like those who obsessively upgrade from iPhone 1 to iP2 to iP3 etc., it's not healthy to get the new hotness EVERY year.

I see the theoretical 8970 being perfect for those who have a 6970 or less. The 7970 adopters can wait for the 9970 to get all giddy again.

 

[videoclone]

In the scenario you describe, the problem is with the person who upgrades from 7970 to the 8970, not with AMD for putting product on the market. Just like those who obsessively upgrade from iPhone 1 to iP2 to iP3 etc., it's not healthy to get the new hotness EVERY year.

I see the theoretical 8970 being perfect for those who have a 6970 or less. The 7970 adopters can wait for the 9970 to get all giddy again.

Unless the 8970 proves to be much faster then the 7970 and people then still jump onto one of those.

 

[Rvenger]

If the 8970 is released, I would imagine that the 7970 would get a decent price drop?

 

[videoclone]

If the 8970 is released, I would imagine that the 7970 would get a decent price drop?

Unless they fase it out

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

If the clocks are in the 1200MHz range then it's definitely feasible that it could be used to launch a new generation. Given the scaling of Tahiti, with 12.5% more SPs and 30-35% higher clock speeds you'd see a performance increase of around 30%, which is more than the change from the GTX 480 to the 580 brought--that was an increase in performance of 15%.

Also, given how we've seen it pan out in the past, we can expect a 50-65% increase in performance from the GTX 580 to the upcoming GTX 780/785. The HD 7970 is currently 20% faster than the GTX 580, and since it's a new card on a new architecture that means we can expect around 5% more performance with new drivers, making it 25% faster overall. If the HD 8970 is 30% faster than the 7970, that means AMD has the card they need to battle it out with the GTX 780/785.

And given AMD has had a good advantage for at least three years over NVIDIA when it comes to getting out cards on a new process node, the GTX 780/785 is gonna be here by summer or perhaps later if they have too many problems with yields. It's slightly delusional to think the Enthusiast Kepler cards will be here in March/April.

 

[Obsoleet]

Being that AMD won the next gen console gpu contracts and Nvidias move towards marketing the PC as the lead platform, it makes me think we should be seeing the exact opposite.

Which is odd, because PC = AMD/Intel. That leaves NV with the fad tablet market (the small end of it, non-iPad), and stiff competition in the phone market, namely (again) Apple who is picking up more and more steam with the iPhone. NV has been completely cut out of the ultrabook picture. Coming from a guy with a Qualcomm Android phone, iPhone can't be stopped, which means NV will be stopped or marginalized.

 

[Ferzerp]

Kind of sad we have so much GPU horsepower now that we are reduced for hoping for some game, any game to please come out so we can justify our high end purchases. lol

My 2560x1600 monior would like a word with you.

 

[HurleyBird]

nVidia engineers are just as smart and capable as AMD engineers so their is no reason why AMD can release a totally new architecture (GCN) on a new process (28nm) long before nVidia launches its Fermi update.

Well, their chip designers are just as smart, sure. Their process engineers, not so much, which is why ATI has always beaten Nvidia to each node. I think Nvidia generally leads in terms of software engineering resources though.

 

[Ajay]

CES is much more about mobile and other platforms than it is about PC AIBs anymore. E3 or some other expo would be a better time to show off a new video card, IMHO. So it's not surprising to me that NV pushed their SoCs and design wins at this year's CES, especially if Kepler isn't going to be out till 2Q12.

 

[Borealis7]

hasn't this rumor been debunked a loooong time ago?

 

[VulgarDisplay]

hasn't this rumor been debunked a loooong time ago?

You really think AMD isn't going to capitalize on the massive scale-ability of their GCN architecture once kepler arrives, and they've had 6+months to work out the kinks at 28nm?

I highly doubt this is a rumor at all.

 

[Quantos]

You really think AMD isn't going to capitalize on the massive scale-ability of their GCN architecture once kepler arrives, and they've had 6+months to work out the kinks at 28nm?

I highly doubt this is a rumor at all.

Well it still is a rumor, but it makes sense.