[Rumor (Various)] AMD R7/9 3xx / Fiji / Fury

[Head1985]

http://www.tecmundo.com.br/amd/81391-exclusivo-tecmundo-descobriu-tudo-novas-placas-amd.htm

You guys say still amd rebrands hawaii? :whiste:

WOW!!! 😵
380 1Ghz new tonga only 150w TDP

390x 8GB 1100mhz only 208w

 

[LTC8K6]

you saw the clocks, amount of ram and power consumption? 😉

Yes, I wasn't impressed.

Power consumption figures for the 290X are all over the place, so I can't tell if 208W means anything or not with the 390X.

It looks to otherwise be identical to a 290X, barring chip improvements that I can't see yet.

Same memory and higher clocks.

Hopefully it has an improved Hawaii GPU.

 

[Stuka87]

What in the hell is that supposed to tell us? Even google translated, it's all gibberish. Not to mention it's just a collection of random slides from who knows where. 🙄

Well if it is to be believed then it tells us that the R9 390 Pro is a 208W card. Which is a lot lower than the 290. If true, this would be welcome news.

 

[Glo.]

Every GPU there has a code name from Caribbean Islands.

208W TDP for Grenada? That is really huge.

 

[chimaxi83]

Well if it is to be believed then it tells us that the R9 390 Pro is a 208W card. Which is a lot lower than the 290. If true, this would be welcome news.

Welcome news, but again, random, unconfirmed slides. That's pretty much all we've seen. 😀

 

[tential]

Did they? They promoted 4k gaming with the 290x? Show me. (I think you are thiking of the 295x2?)

They are promoting "6k, no problem" and posting 8k screen shots... I expect them to be able to smash 4k 🙂

Meanwhile, 980ti and Titan X struggle on real 4k with Ultra and AA on top titles... So this could look ugly for them if AMD does it "no problem"

Lol no I'm not going to show you. Your own fault for not following the forums then maybe someone elsewill. You must have missed the tons of 4k stuff when the 290x hit, the tons of 4k leaked benchmarks (only 4k) as well as other 4k stuff. They pushed 4k hard with the 290x. Don't remember? Maybe a more casual gpu oriented discussion is for you then.

This is getting ridiculous when people want to have a discussion on a subject like this but didn't pay attention to other launches. Want to discuss history? No problem, but you actually have to follow the history of gpu releases to discuss them otherwise the discussion is pointless.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well if it is to be believed then it tells us that the R9 390 Pro is a 208W card. Which is a lot lower than the 290. If true, this would be welcome news.

Where did you find solid numbers for the power consumption of a 290X, though?

 

[Stuka87]

Yes, I wasn't impressed.

Power consumption figures for the 290X are all over the place, so I can't tell if 208W means anything or not with the 390X.

It looks to otherwise be identical to a 290X, barring chip improvements that I can't see yet.

Same memory and higher clocks.

Hopefully it has an improved Hawaii GPU.

AMD listed the 290X as a 250W card. If they measure everything exactly the same way than it should mean a 42 watt drop.

 

[LTC8K6]

We have 8gb 290X cards and HIS had a 290X running at 1100 / 6000, although it was a 4gb card.

 

[AtenRa]

Just for reference

MSI R9 290 4G Gaming = 2560 Shaders, 1007MHz (OC) core, 1250MHz mem(5000) and 250W power consumption

MSI R9 390 Gaming 8G Gaming = 2816 Shaders, 1060MHz (OC) Core, 1525MHz mem(6100) and 208W power consumption

from the link above

 

[Head1985]

AMD listed the 290X as a 250W card. If they measure everything exactly the same way than it should mean a 42 watt drop.

290x is 290w TDP
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2460/radeon-r9-290x.html
390x on 1100Mhz and 8GB only have 208w TDP
This is really HUGE improvement

 

[96Firebird]

I don't think AMD ever listed an official TDP for the Hawaii cards, at least the figure was still up in the air at launch:

However at the same time how power consumption is being defined is getting far murkier: AMD doesn’t list the power consumption of the 290X in any of their documentation or specifications, and after asking them directly we’re only being told that the “average gaming scenario power” is 250W. We’ll dive into this more when we do a breakdown of the changes to PowerTune on 290X, but in short AMD is likely underreporting the 290X’s power consumption. Based on our test results we’re seeing 290X draw more power than any other “250W” card in our collection, and in reality the TDP of the card is almost certainly closer to 300W. There are limits to how long the card can sustain that level of power draw due to cooling requirements, but given sufficient cooling the power limit of the card appears to be around 300W, and for the moment we’re labeling it as such.

Source

Seems they understated the "average gaming scenario power", at least with the reference cooler...

 

[Gikaseixas]

208W TDP for Grenada? That is really huge

If true, that's 42 watts improvement with extra 4GB of ram and higher MHz , not bad

 

[Stuka87]

290x is 290w TDP
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2460/radeon-r9-290x.html
390x on 1100Mhz and 8GB only have 208w TDP
This is really HUGE improvement

That 290W number did not come from AMD though. It came from TPU's testing. AMD has been a bit sketchy about real numbers. They say 250W is an average number. Which does match a lot of sites testing while gaming at stock speeds. Not counting FurMark or other non gaming related tests.

This is why I think it will be ~40W savings. Just going off the numbers AMD posted themselves and the numbers from this rumor.

 

[AtenRa]

If true, that's 42 watts improvement with extra 4GB of ram and higher MHz , not bad

AND more shaders 2560 vs 2816

 

[LTC8K6]

Just for reference

MSI R9 290 4G Gaming = 2560 Shaders, 1007MHz (OC) core, 1250MHz mem(5000) and 250W power consumption

MSI R9 390 Gaming 8G Gaming = 2816 Shaders, 1060MHz (OC) Core, 1525MHz mem(6100) and 208W power consumption

from the link above

That would make the 390 and the 390X identical, except for a 40mhz clock boost on the X gpu.

I think the 390 must have fewer processors than the 390X.

The Grenada PRO and Grenada XT should not have the same number?

 

[Creig]

Yes, I wasn't impressed.

Power consumption figures for the 290X are all over the place, so I can't tell if 208W means anything or not with the 390X.

It looks to otherwise be identical to a 290X, barring chip improvements that I can't see yet.

Same memory and higher clocks.

Hopefully it has an improved Hawaii GPU.

If the power consumption values are to be believed, it would almost have to be an improved core or different fab (or both):

290X - 4GB VRAM, 1.0 GHz GPU, 250W (approx)
390X - 8GB VRAM, 1.1 GHz GPU, 208W

 

[Stuka87]

That would make the 390 and the 390X identical, except for a 40mhz clock boost on the X gpu.

I think the 390 must have fewer processors than the 390X.

The Grenada PRO and Grenada XT should not have the same number?

I caught that too. Could be the Pro they listed really is the XT.

 

[LTC8K6]

390 should be 2560 and 390x should be 2816, yes?

 

[TaintedSquirrel]

Looks like Hawaii XT.
I think the R9 390 is supposed to be Hawaii Pro @ 2560 shaders.

Here's an imgur album of all the specs:
http://imgur.com/a/NvH4z

Obrigado Brasil.

 

[AnandThenMan]

If the power consumption values are to be believed, it would almost have to be an improved core or different fab (or both):

We don't know for sure but it has been strongly hinted that it is both.

 

[LTC8K6]

Looks like Hawaii XT.
I think the R9 390 is supposed to be Hawaii Pro @ 2560 shaders.

Here's an imgur album of all the specs:
http://imgur.com/a/NvH4z

Obrigado Brasil.

Yes, except it is Grenada Pro and Grenada XT.

They are apparently new editions of the Hawaii chips that use less power.

 

[AtenRa]

290x and 390 at the same clocks have almost the same performance, seams they have the same number of shaders.

 

[Glo.]

That would make the 390 and the 390X identical, except for a 40mhz clock boost on the X gpu.

I think the 390 must have fewer processors than the 390X.

The Grenada PRO and Grenada XT should not have the same number?

Or simply R9 390X has more cores 😉

3072 😉.

 

[LTC8K6]

290x and 390 at the same clocks have almost the same performance, seams they have the same number of shaders.

390 has more and faster ram, though.