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[Rumor (Various)] AMD R7/9 3xx / Fiji / Fury

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tviceman said:
Not true. G92 / G92b will forever hold that crown.
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G92 was introduced in november 2007. G92b came to the market in june 2008.

2 1/2 years later nVidia introduced Fermi.

Pitcairn was introduced in march 2012 and will be repacked in june 2015 again for 9 months or so.

So no, Pitcairn will easily claim this crown...
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
XFX 390 GPU-Z

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This proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the R9 390 is indeed a straight rebrand of the R9 290. Standard Hawaii silicon with the exact same Device ID. No architectural improvements, no new features, probably not any substantive improvements in power consumption either. Nothing but AMD sitting around for two years with their thumb up their ass.

It also looks like the MSI slides were wrong about 390 having the same shader count. And they're almost certainly wrong about the TDP, too. Wonder if they're also wrong about the 380's TDP, and about the 370 having the full 1280 shaders.
 
sontin said:
Do you have a link to the source?!
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http://www.reddit.com/user/XeonFarmer and more accurately http://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/39qol9/r9_390_gpuz_for_those_that_asked_yesterday/

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monstercameron said:
I appreciate the info you provided but I have to point out that there is a difference in the CPUs, which makes the 390 match the 970.
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I know it isn't very solid comparison because of Muro had certain spec when testing out NV cards when they came out and Redditor with 390 has his build that is different from Muros. To get solid numbers we need proper bench environment and proper drivers for 300 -series.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
The youtube guy ran 3dmark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kEcbLRnbVI

Linus responds to review samples:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ke-ltt-in-time-for-the-16th-reveal/?p=5210707
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without drivers, what does he expect 😉 amd need to find the retailer who jumped the gun and sue the crap out of them.

and reading what linus wrote ahahhaha, salty!!!!! he literally F over amd with his 200 series review and expects to be treated with freebies after? :colbert::twisted:😎
x3sphere said:
Welp, I'm convinced this is a rebadge now.

Still excited for Fiji at least, hope we get lots of info on that next week.
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you were just convinced? I would have thought you made up your mind the moment you found out about the 300 series. 😉
 
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JDG1980 said:
This proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the R9 390 is indeed a straight rebrand of the R9 290. Standard Hawaii silicon with the exact same Device ID. No architectural improvements, no new features, probably not any substantive improvements in power consumption either. Nothing but AMD sitting around for two years with their thumb up their ass.

It also looks like the MSI slides were wrong about 390 having the same shader count. And they're almost certainly wrong about the TDP, too. Wonder if they're also wrong about the 380's TDP, and about the 370 having the full 1280 shaders.
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Why invest in new mid to low end when you are limited by GloFo or TSMC processes? This generation of AMD and Nvidia cards are a stop gap generation because of what happened with the 20nm.

While their cards, other than Fury Pro and Fury XT, aren't new, they are still competitive at the price points they will be sold at in the low and midrange. While AMD will continue to lose the Price per Watt during this stop gap generation it will continue to win Price to Performance.
 
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Wreckem said:
While AMD will continue to lose the Price per Watt during this stop gap generation it will continue to win Price to Performance.
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Right now AMD has the best price/perf in most categories but it doesn't matter they are going downhill in marketshare. AMD needs to do better than rebrands or this will continue.
 
Tovarisc said:
So I went back into 3D Mark's website and finally realized how search works <.<

CPU is same, Intel Core i7-4770K, in all three.

390's result from FireStrike normal;
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970's result from FireStrike normal; 12116
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4813714

980's result from FireStrike normal; 18197
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4241431
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why post this? :colbert:
AnandThenMan said:
Right now AMD has the best price/perf in most categories but it doesn't matter they are going downhill in marketshare. AMD needs to do better than rebrands or this will continue.
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390x just needs to be 10% above 980(20% above 290x) n 20% lower power usage vs 290x to be a competitive product again. in other words, pull a maxwell over maxwell.

I honestly don't get where all the fuss is coming from.
 
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Wreckem said:
Why invest in new mid to low end when you are limited by GloFo or TSMC processes? This generation of AMD and Nvidia cards are a stop gap generation because of what happened with the 20nm.

While their cards, other than Fury Pro and Fury XT, aren't new, they are still competitive at the price points they will be sold at in the low and midrange. While AMD will continue to lose the Price per Watt during this stop gap generation it will continue to win Price to Performance.
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Pitcairn is as big as GM206. But the performance, perf/watt and feature set is just outdated for a chip of this size. So they need to sell it for way less than a GTX960...
 
does GPUZ pull its information from the card or from a database/update?

Not sure the information is accurate or if just the most recent information updated into GPUZ...?
 
jamesgalb said:
does GPUZ pull its information from the card or from a database/update?

Not sure the information is accurate or if just the most recent information updated into GPUZ...?
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A combination of the two.

W1zzard pokes the GPU registers directly to identify a chip and its features (ROPs, shaders, etc). So long as GPU-Z knows how to properly interpret the results from the registers, then it can give you accurate results even if it's older than any given GPU.

The database in turn is where the names come from. GPU-Z knows that Hawaii is Hawaii because it knows the name of the GPU with that specific register configuration. So if GPU-Z finds something not in its database, it will not be able to name it.
 
boozzer said:
why post this? :colbert:
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monstercameron asked for some comparison data and my first attempt at giving some was low quality post (even for my standards as I took old Muro bench) so I decided to redo it.

My intention isn't to try crap on 390 and I assume we all know 390 is still missing official drivers plus proper benches will come around sooner or later.
 
Tovarisc said:
monstercameron asked for some comparison data and my first attempt at giving some was low quality post (even for my standards as I took old Muro bench) so I decided to redo it.



My intention isn't to try crap on 390 and I assume we all know 390 is still missing official drivers plus proper benches will come around sooner or later.
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Thanks for the links.
 
Tovarisc said:
monstercameron asked for some comparison data and my first attempt at giving some was low quality post (even for my standards as I took old Muro bench) so I decided to redo it.

My intention isn't to try crap on 390 and I assume we all know 390 is still missing official drivers plus proper benches will come around sooner or later.
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well those links you posted are overclocked cards not reference, just pointing out the difference.
 
One way I think AMD is failing here is they don't address any of the fear mongering. They don't have to give away everything but throw the community a bone or two. Otherwise speculation runs rampant and the usual suspects preach the doom and gloom.

Of course it is possible they have nothing good to say, but how is that strategy going to work anyway the truth will be known.
 
Tovarisc said:
So I went back into 3D Mark's website and finally realized how search works <.<

CPU is same, Intel Core i7-4770K, in all three.

390's result from FireStrike normal;


970's result from FireStrike normal; 12116


980's result from FireStrike normal; 18197
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980 is 50% faster than 970? You learn something new every day...
 
AnandThenMan said:
One way I think AMD is failing here is they don't address any of the fear mongering. They don't have to give away everything but throw the community a bone or two. Otherwise speculation runs rampant and the usual suspects preach the doom and gloom.

Of course it is possible they have nothing good to say, but how is that strategy going to work anyway the truth will be known.
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I believe they give everything they have to Fury, its the big gun after all.

Its the domino effect, win buy owning the top end.
 
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