[Rumor] RX 480 Overclocking 1500+Mhz

[Azix]

This will be where we get the most out of these chips. Ideally matching a stock 1070 with OC

http://www.overclock.net/t/1603252/...with-voltage-control-coming/390#post_25267966

Updated Info: I will have some more info to share Saturday for 460,470 and Vega10, I just gotta get my brother to look over and "ok" what i written out. In the mean time, I wanted to update on a few things i did learn today from my bro and his partners in Seattle and to clear things up on the 1500mhz guarantee Rx 480 cards i mentioned before. I just got home a little bit ago and its going on 2am so i just wanted to post this and gonna hit the sack. I can't always reply back to my threads here as most of the time i am at work so i can only pop in and post and quickly leave. Anyways, until i post new updates for the Rx 460, 470 and Vega 10 this weekend, this is a few minor updates concerning Rx 480, below.

Update info on the Rx 480 -----------------------------
Earlier here today i posted some info on two different AIB vendors releasing $300 dollar 1500mhz Rx 480 Editions. There is some clarity i wanted to update on what exactly this means. Its quite simple, There will be some "superclocked" editions (< not the exact name) released with a bios option set at 1500mhz, its as simple as that. As for how many others vendors will release these Rx 480's that have the bios option switch to 1500mhz is unknown outside of the two companies that i am aware of. I cannot share which companies are releasing this but honestly I am told that all 6+8 pin Rx 480's are said to get this 1500mhz mark with software, Let me just quote what they said...this is a C/P from my email that was forwarded to me by my brother just a few hours ago.

This particular $300 Rx 480 OC Edition will have toggle with two bios options - Standard bios of 1266mhz and Extreme bios of 1500mhz - All 6+8 pin models will be able to reach the 1500mhz mark - the only difference is some editions will have a overclock bios setting that will be set at the 1500mhz mark - while other cards will have to be done manually although today its easy to do manually by just a few clicks of a button with software - While running at 1570mhz - the OC edition runs at 72c with 99% gpu load with 65% fan - one impressive feat to say the least - This bodes well for AMD's new Polaris cards as it shows these cards are capable of even more than this impressive 1570mhz mark - In fact, in a closed box setup, we were able to "easily" obtain 1600mhz while running Battlefield 4 for over an hour with zero crashes or artifacts all while keeping below the 75c mark while using 99% gpu load - Even more impressive is the fact that the voltage usage leaves room for even a bit further tweaking to further our overclock past 1600mhz - One has to wonder what AMD has with the entire lineup of Vega right now - we can only imagine pure bliss in terms of performance at the top enthusiast level - AMD really does have something special on their hands. The Rx 480 while running 1500mhz is on par with the stock 1070 in-game, it even beats it on some games at this clock, anything more and the 480 begins to put some distance between the two cards. Keep in mind this is Dx12 games, this is where GCN 4 truly shows off.


Earlier my brother and I were talking and I mentioned to him about how i felt about what AMD is doing and my brother said i literally took the words out of his mouth in what i am about to say below...


...we both are very curious and intrigued at how AMD is targeting these new cards, Its as if they are not even trying to target Nvidia at all but rather setting a new lineup of cards and a completely new lineup of performance targets. In other words, AMD's cards are not really targeting Nvidia's nor any of AMD's previous cards but rather...setting a completely new standard of graphic cards with a whole new identity and vision that will be a new trend setter unlike any time before. I really feel this way and my brother agrees as he said we must be brothers as we had this exact same thoughts in mind. My brother and I are both in the Gaming/Hardware Industry, I work for a game company in Chicago but my brother has been in the industry longer than myself working in a big software/hardware company in Seattle. Anyways, I am very excited at what AMD is doing here. I think they are doing a remarkable job and they should be commended by both Nvidia and AMD fans alike. Forget all the petty fanboy trolling...we are all on the same team here, green or red, we are gamers and computer enthusiasts...we should be excited to see AMD step in new waters. I am, my bro and his colleagues are...so should you.

PS I'll have more info on the Rx 460, Rx 470 and Vega 10 (Rx 490) on saturday as my brother was out for the night so i could only get a few things answered. And yes Rx 490 is the smallest chip of Vega lineup confirmed., I'll explain more tomorrow, its something my brother told me but i gotta be careful with NDA,etc so i gotta check to see how much i can post when i get more time to talk with him, when i do, i'll post it for any interested for that info.

Play Hard!
MCL

 

[caswow]

sad for amd people are hyping up cards and later they get flak for it for "hyping" up cards. i hope this is no viral marketing against amd...:thumbsdown:

 

[Azix]

sad for amd people are hyping up cards and later they get flak for it for "hyping" up cards. i hope this is no viral marketing against amd...:thumbsdown:

it shouldn't be. I dont expect they have worse overclocking than 28nm. If they cant get eve 1400Mhz that would be worse than hawaii et al. 1500Mhz is a reasonable expectation if somewhat optimistic.

1400 is just around 140 over 1266. I expect that at least

 

[ozzy702]

it shouldn't be. I dont expect they have worse overclocking than 28nm. If they cant get eve 1400Mhz that would be worse than hawaii et al. 1500Mhz is a reasonable expectation if somewhat optimistic.

1400 is just around 140 over 1266. I expect that at least

^ This. I don't know why 1500mhz should be surprising. AMD is pushing performance/watt and as such has kept the stock clocks low leaving a lot of performance left on the table.

 

[khon]

1500MHz would be an increase of 18% over the stock value of 1266MHz, nice improvement but not exactly unprecedented.

 

[DigDog]

if this is a $200 card, will AMD even have a midrange offering? or are they just going to produce a ton of the same one card?

 

[khon]

if this is a $200 card, will AMD even have a midrange offering? or are they just going to produce a ton of the same one card?

Overclocked 8GB versions won't be $200, more like $250-300.

So AMD will have a range from 460 2GB to 480 8GB, which covers most of the market. They are only missing high end cards, which will come later.

 

[brandonmatic]

1500MHz would be an increase of 18% over the stock value of 1266MHz, nice improvement but not exactly unprecedented.

Yeah, 1400/1266 is just a 10% OC. If that were the limit it would be even worse than Pascal. The real question is how the card performs at 1400/1500. My guess is within 10% of the 1070, which would be fantastic for $200-$250.

 

[topmounter]

An air cooled RX 480 OC (at 1500MHz) for $299 that matches or beats a 1070 in the real world? Sounds good to me.

 

[AtenRa]

If 1.5GHz+ cards will increase voltage to pass validation, say good bye to perf/watt.

Those cards may reach close to GTX 1070 performance but at an increase in power consumption, perhaps even more than GTX 1080.

 

[Abwx]

If 1.5GHz+ cards will increase voltage to pass validation, say good buy to perf/watt.

Those cards may reach close to GTX 1070 performance but at an increase in power consumption, perhaps even more than GTX 1080.

1500MHz require 23% more power than 1266MHz if voltage margin is left unchanged, otherwise it can be only 15% more power, depending of the VRMs stability.

 

[alcoholbob]

If 1.5GHz+ cards will increase voltage to pass validation, say good buy to perf/watt.

Those cards may reach close to GTX 1070 performance but at an increase in power consumption, perhaps even more than GTX 1080.

$299 is a lot more palatable than $449 though, even at 180W TDP.

 

[tential]

Now we're at 1600 mhz...

The hype doesn't end....

 

[Bacon1]

If 1.5GHz+ cards will increase voltage to pass validation, say good buy to perf/watt.

Those cards may reach close to GTX 1070 performance but at an increase in power consumption, perhaps even more than GTX 1080.

Anyone who OC's is obviously waving good bye to perf/watt. The point is when you can buy a $300 part that competes with a $400 one a few $ per year for the extra power usage is well worth it. Plus you can use that extra $100 towards a nice new freesync monitor and have a much better experience.

 

[boozzer]

Now we're at 1600 mhz...

The hype doesn't end....

we are now beyond hype

 

[monstercameron]

Now we're at 1600 mhz...

The hype doesn't end....

I read a rumour that 1700 might be possible /s

sorry im all aboard the hype train to polaris town!

 

[flopper]

Anyone who OC's is obviously waving good bye to perf/watt. The point is when you can buy a $300 part that competes with a $400 one a few $ per year for the extra power usage is well worth it. Plus you can use that extra $100 towards a nice new freesync monitor and have a much better experience.

Total DominATIon if that is accurate.
anything below a 1080 will be a 400 series card

 

[tential]

I read a rumour that 1700 might be possible /s

sorry im all aboard the hype train to polaris town!

If they release a Founder's Edition with 1700 mhz boost assured under water for $300 I'll be satisfied. Anything less than a 1750 mhz boost is pretty bad at this point. I'm expecting 1800 mhz boost out of the RX480 Founder's Edition.

 

[maddie]

Yeah, 1400/1266 is just a 10% OC. If that were the limit it would be even worse than Pascal. The real question is how the card performs at 1400/1500. My guess is within 10% of the 1070, which would be fantastic for $200-$250.

Didn't you read the whole post.

"The Rx 480 while running 1500mhz is on par with the stock 1070 in-game"

 

[maddie]

If they release a Founder's Edition with 1700 mhz boost assured under water for $300 I'll be satisfied. Anything less than a 1750 mhz boost is pretty bad at this point. I'm expecting 1800 mhz boost out of the RX480 Founder's Edition.

I understand the sarcasm, and in that spirit. Why do you think they named it Polaris? We're going to be clocking to the stars.

 

[Abwx]

Now we're at 1600 mhz...

The hype doesn't end....

14nm LPP RVT is good up to 1.8-2GHz, so those numbers are not that surprising other than by pointing that they didnt use the LVT transistors wich are 50% faster but leaks even more..

 

[psolord]

I understand the sarcasm, and in that spirit. Why do you think they named it Polaris? We're going to be clocking to the stars.

Also because stars are hot?

Of course this has two meanings. The physical one and the social one. Let's hope it's the latter.

 

[AtenRa]

$299 is a lot more palatable than $449 though, even at 180W TDP.

Anyone who OC's is obviously waving good bye to perf/watt. The point is when you can buy a $300 part that competes with a $400 one a few $ per year for the extra power usage is well worth it. Plus you can use that extra $100 towards a nice new freesync monitor and have a much better experience.

I am aware of that, i was just pointing out that cards on 1500MHz+ will not get high perf/watt. There will be GTX 1070 eventually sold at $379 and those cards will be much better than a OCed Polaris 10 for only ~$80 more.
What im more interested at is the performance of the vanilla $199 4GB RX 480 at 1400MHz, can it come close to GTX 1070 at 1080/1440p ??? At those clocks perf/watt should be very good and the price/perf the best in its segment by far.

 

[Azix]

I am aware of that, i was just pointing out that cards on 1500MHz+ will not get high perf/watt. There will be GTX 1070 eventually sold at $379 and those cards will be much better than a OCed Polaris 10 for only ~$80 more.
What im more interested at is the performance of the vanilla $199 4GB RX 480 at 1400MHz, can it come close to GTX 1070 at 1080/1440p ??? At those clocks perf/watt should be very good and the price/perf the best in its segment by far.

sounds like the $300 is just super premium. Like a lightning card or something. A regular 480 with decent cooling should get there all the same. It really is just a benefit to AIB to have this headroom to play with and the price flexibility that comes with it

 

[maddie]

Also because stars are hot?

Of course this has two meanings. The physical one and the social one. Let's hope it's the latter.

Actually the coolest, visible to human stars, are red.