Rumor: Price Cuts on GTX660Ti series coming next week

[SirPauly]

Almost 500 FOR A 5870??....You got robbed...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/

 

[sze5003]

Have to agree, that survey does not tell me much..how many steam users have one card over the other based on some percentage increase? Does not really give any clear stats as if one company was better than the other.

 

[SirPauly]

The Steam survey is worthless...whether it's QUOTED by AMD,AMD fanatics or Nvidia fanatics.

No it's not! It offers some insight what gamers may be using considering the large data base that Steam is. It's not official information and certainly not the end-all-be-all metric and should be some caution when looking at the data. Official information utilizing Jon Peddie Research or Mercury Research are more ideal data resources when it comes to shipped sku's.

What's the big deal? These are only video cards -- no need to be emotional.

 

[sze5003]

So from the looks of that it looks like there was an increase in the use of the 670. And lets say .08 increase in a 7970. Considering both cards are great and the current generation, I would not expect less.

 

[blackened23]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/

What the heck? The 5870 was 379$ at release for the top tier flagship card, you are comparing an eyefinity 6 model which is like comparing the price of an overclocked card with additional features to the base model. The MSI lightning cards have eyefinity 6 and they obviously cost more than the base 7970 model, by about 100$. Obviously overclocked cards or cards with more features (ie more VRAM, eyefinity 6) cost more.

The BASE 5870 was 379$ MSRP, fastest GPU available. Unless you're stating keys bought an eyefinity 6 card? I have no idea what you're getting at but the price of the 5870 was 379$ MSRP.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2841

 

[SirPauly]

The base HD 5870 was 379:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2841

 

[blackened23]

The base HD 5870 was 379:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2841

Aye, corrected, maybe ATI and nvidia both need to go to this pricing model. 380$- 400$ for the top tier card.

 

[sze5003]

Aye, corrected, maybe ATI and nvidia both need to go to this pricing model. 380$- 400$ for the top tier card.

Well ATI is close in the $400 mark with their card plus some change. I don't see Nvidia doing that with the 680 for at least a while now.

 

[Keysplayr]

Almost 500 FOR A 5870??....You got robbed...

Yes, you are correct. Looked up my receipt and it was 429.00 from the egg. The other two cards i mentioned were on the money though. Anyway, point is todays pricing, and i do mean"today", isn't at all out of the norm.

 

[NIGELG]

Official information utilizing Jon Peddie Research or Mercury Research are more ideal data resources when it comes to shipped sku's.

What's the big deal? These are only video cards -- no need to be emotional.

Steam survey is crap.Then use Jon Preddie or Mercury.

And who's emotional??It is just videocards,

The 660 Ti prices are what you should be talking about.

 

[SirPauly]

The GTX 660ti was in the survey!

 

[fleshconsumed]

Well ATI is close in the $400 mark with their card plus some change. I don't see Nvidia doing that with the 680 for at least a while now.

It's taken full 9 months for ATI is get down to $400 price level, and it only happened because nVidia finally rolled out 660 level cards completing their kepler lineup. This is not the same as sub $400 MSRP at launch.

And even then, you can pretty much get IB i7 + motherboard for about as much. It's ridiculous how expensive video cards have gotten.

 

[Jaydip]

Actually steam survey may be very useful but we need to know about their sampling method though.Without that information no statistics is worth arguing.Pauly is there some insight regarding that?The survey could be useful because it reflects the choice of a very large gaming crowd.

 

[Ferzerp]

I'm paying way more per kWh than you are and I'm not alone... and our friends in places like Hawaii, Europe, Africa, India, etc. definitely appreciate energy-efficient equipment. Power rates can be 10 times higher--or more--overseas. Businesses also appreciate more efficiency but I doubt anyone here is running their own server farm....

I specifically said the US. This is a couple of years old, but....

 

[sze5003]

It's taken full 9 months for ATI is get down to $400 price level, and it only happened because nVidia finally rolled out 660 level cards completing their kepler lineup. This is not the same as sub $400 MSRP at launch.

And even then, you can pretty much get IB i7 + motherboard for about as much. It's ridiculous how expensive video cards have gotten.

I have to agree with that, these cards are 9 months old or so and they are still going for 4-450+ not really considered an upgrade when its almost at the end of the life cycle.

 

[blackened23]

Well ATI is close in the $400 mark with their card plus some change. I don't see Nvidia doing that with the 680 for at least a while now.

On the one hand, it would be nice, but they likely don't have to. I was surprised that they are planning 660ti pricecuts, though.

 

[blackened23]

I specifically said the US. This is a couple of years old, but....

So the takeaway from this is that Seattle is overclocking nirvana. Right?!

 

[Ferzerp]

And Texas has surprisingly high residential electricity rates.

 

[railven]

I specifically said the US. This is a couple of years old, but....

Jesus, I got to get out of this god awful state. I switched almost all my appliances to Energy Saver junk, removed two heaters, and basically turn off the power to certain rooms, and I'm still paying $180+ a month in electricity during the summers and almost $300+ during the winters.

I need to find out if someone is really tapping my line.

 

[Keysplayr]

What the heck? The 5870 was 379$ at release for the top tier flagship card, you are comparing an eyefinity 6 model which is like comparing the price of an overclocked card with additional features to the base model. The MSI lightning cards have eyefinity 6 and they obviously cost more than the base 7970 model, by about 100$. Obviously overclocked cards or cards with more features (ie more VRAM, eyefinity 6) cost more.

The BASE 5870 was 379$ MSRP, fastest GPU available. Unless you're stating keys bought an eyefinity 6 card? I have no idea what you're getting at but the price of the 5870 was 379$ MSRP.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2841

You must be talking about Rev.2 5870 with cheaper PCB.
I purchased a rev.1 regular 5870 from newegg. Not eyefinity version. Not toxic
Version. Not anything special or above average in any way.
I bought the least expensive XFX i could get so i could run it against the 480 i had.. Now I've checked the correct invoice. 397.97.
So you guys are half right. I got it mixed up with the 2900xt.

 

[railven]

You must be talking about Rev.2 5870 with cheaper PCB.
I purchased a rev.1 regular 5870 from newegg. Not eyefinity version. Not toxic
Version. Not anything special or above average in any way.
I bought the least expensive XFX i could get so i could run it against the 480 i had..

Depending when you bought, HD 5870/5850 saw a stupid price premium due to shortages.

If people didn't buy at first batch/launch, the MSRP price was a pipe dream. I'd say each card was going any where from $30-50 over MSRP.

Why I bought my eye6 at launch, $480 and at that time HD 5870 regs were going for $420+


http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/

Update 4/1/2010: Launch prices appear to have missed their target. We're seeing the 5870E6 sold out at $499, and in-stock elsewhere at $549. This puts it at an $80 premium over the reference 1GB 5870.

Using this info from Anandtech, $500 5870 Eye6 had a $80 premium over 1GB versions putting them at $420, else he means $80 premium on the $550 models, thus puts 1GB 5870s around $470.

 

[blastingcap]

Jesus, I got to get out of this god awful state. I switched almost all my appliances to Energy Saver junk, removed two heaters, and basically turn off the power to certain rooms, and I'm still paying $180+ a month in electricity during the summers and almost $300+ during the winters.

I need to find out if someone is really tapping my line.

I take it you don't live in Hawaii. If so, well, at least you aren't paying Hawaii's chart-topping rates.

 

[SirPauly]

Yes, you are correct. Looked up my receipt and it was 429.00 from the egg. The other two cards i mentioned were on the money though. Anyway, point is todays pricing, and i do mean"today", isn't at all out of the norm.

The price points were about the norm but where it may differ based on history was the weaker price/performance for a substantial and significant new node and arch.

Granted, with more competition and choice, 28 nm price/performance is improving.

 

[blastingcap]

It took a while for TSMC 28nm process to improve. Yes NV priced lower.. they were also several months later by which point yields had more time to improve. Combine lower fabrication prices with smaller and cheaper to make dies and PCBs, less VRAM, etc. and is it really a wonder why GTX 680 could be priced cheaper and still make NV bucketloads of money--and that's not even counting Quadro/Tesla?

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...y-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless

 

[railven]

I take it you don't live in Hawaii. If so, well, at least you aren't paying Hawaii's chart-topping rates.

Granted, I don't live in Hawaii but going by that chart above (it doesn't state specific values above the >15 cent point) I can only say I'm as screwed as they are without the beautiful weather and gorgeous scenery. Haha.