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Rumor: Nikon D3100 (1080p, continuous video autofocus)

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alkemyst said:
Wow...man you need to get out more. You are taking this WAY to personally. Go look at my original post and try to think about what it meant. Then look at the reply how I was somehow wrong about that and they are making TV series now with them.

Yes it's a great feature to have. No it's not going to replace a dedicated unit...which more than likely will be smaller than a good zoom lens anyway.

Try and breathe a bit and think.
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This is coming from a same guy who wrote this?

"WOW NEWFLASH HOLLYWOOD!
FUCK JUST USE A dSLR CAMERA TO SHOOT YOUR FILMS.
IT'S TEH AWESOME!
this is a bit insane yet only here you'd see this"

Before you say I took it way too personally and that I should "try and breathe a bit and think,"think about where you stand.
Clearly, you're the one who went mad as pointed by an another member. If Just look at what you wrote there. I'm just worried about you because I've never seen someone acting so hysterical over this vdslr thing.

Hollywood has more than enough money to use better cameras that costs hundreds times more. We all know it. Anubis, DLeRium, and BlahBlahYoutoo only mentioned how vdslr was being used more than what you've suggested. Then, after their input on how vdslr was being used in TV show production, you hysterically screamed ""WOW NEWFLASH HOLLYWOOD! FUCK JUST USE A dSLR CAMERA TO SHOOT YOUR FILMS. IT'S TEH AWESOME!" Clearly, you took this issue very personal to the point you screamed (which is banned attitude here on ATF) some nonsense. It's like they were saying Porsche 911 is a nice speedy car and you, all of the sudden, scream about Formula 1 and regular people just stick to Civic.

BTW,As for semi-professionals and amateurs who couldn't afford such cameras, they could only dream about it. RED broke that barrier but it was still somewhat too expensive. This is where vdslr came in. It's not as good as RED but it's much cheaper and its versatility and control over DOF is fantastic. A few years ago, nobody dared to dream about a $1000 - $2400 camera being able to shoot such high quality videos. Now it's reality and people can make fantastic indie films, documentaries, music videos, and even TV shows.

Look at what Greg Yaitanes says:
http://philipbloom.net/2010/04/19/i...-of-house-season-finale-shot-on-canon-5dmkii/
 
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BlahBlahYouToo said:
good thing that's your opinion.
the season finale of house was shot on a DSLR.
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I see this touted over and over, but there's a difference between having a professional film crew shoot video, and a typical consumer trying the same. Unless someone is seriously willing to invest the time and effort, most consumers will be much better off with a simpler video camera which has auto-everything.
 
TIME AND EFFORT...I don't think you are getting it.

No one is saying this is impossible, they are saying it's not a practical use of a dSLR.

You can autocross in a Lincoln Continental and if a good enough driver probably beat most weekend warriors, doesn't mean it's the best way to go about it.
 
alkemyst said:
TIME AND EFFORT...I don't think you are getting it.

No one is saying this is impossible, they are saying it's not a practical use of a dSLR.

You can autocross in a Lincoln Continental and if a good enough driver probably beat most weekend warriors, doesn't mean it's the best way to go about it.
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and it's not practical for most to carry 2 cameras + lenses around.
a DSLR with a good camera mode is more than adequate for taking clips of your vacation.
no one is telling you to shoot the next summer blockbuster film on it.
 
Now we have gone full-circle though. I never said you couldn't use one in a pinch. I stated the format doesn't lend itself to video really. The form-factor is all wrong for it and forget anything candid really.

It's nice to have the option to do it at least. Most will find a dedicated video cam will be more easy to use and fits in less than the spot of an average zoom lens.
 
Vdslr isn't easy to handle and use. Typical cams work better for average people. I agree with that. Same goes for dslrs, manual drive cars, and so many other things. Why use bulky dslr when you phone cameras allow you to take pics so damn easily? Even among dslr users, why use bulky, heavy, and so expensive flagship dslrs when they could just use entry level dslrs? Why drive manual when automatic does the job so easily? We see people going for those things that aren't easy to handle and use. We all know why. "Time and effort" is not everything.

Vdslrs offer what typical cams can't and that's the point. Think why RED got professionals excited. Still, RED is too expensive for most of people. There was a gap in the market and vdslrs filled that gap. They offer very and very high quality videos that indie film makers can even use. It's so damn cheap that average people can even buy one.
It's not the feature that seals the deal for photographers but it's a damn good option to have. Go look around in youtube and vimeo, thanks to vdslr, people are able to shoot amazing videos. Typical cams can shoot the same thing but the dramatic differrence in quality exists and that matters. After all, again, that's why more and more people use bulky dslrs and drive manual.

BTW, don't just look at the extreme side of the issue. Nobody is telling you it's either $~500 cam or Hollywood production cameras. Typical cams have their use so do Hollywood cameras. Same goes for vdslrs. People like me care about quality of images and videos that we're willing to sacrifice "time and effort" in exchange. If not, this dslr market we have now would have not existed in the first place.

Really, if you think typical cams are way to go, why don't you just use camera phones or P&S cameras for your photography? Following your logic, you should just be using P&S and if somebody tells you dslr is good, scream something like me 'WOW NEWFLASH STUDIO PHOTOGRAHERS! DITCH YOUR MEDIUM FORMAT DIGITAL BACKS. FUCK JUST USE A CONSUMER dSLR CAMERA TO SHOOT YOUR MODEL SHOTS. IT'S TEH AWESOME! this is a bit insane yet only here you'd see this"
Let me repeat myself again. This is not black and white issue. Why do you only focus on consumer cams or Hollywood production cameras? In terms of photography, do you also tell people it's either P&S or medium format and that 'You can do it a lot better with a $200 P&S'?
 
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Alkemyst and Cattykit just made this thread a TOTAL waste of my time to read. Thanks to the both of you for ruining 10 minutes of my life! How 'bout you both take your 'e-peen's' to PM and spare the rest of us your public relationship.
 
Smoove910 said:
Alkemyst and Cattykit just made this thread a TOTAL waste of my time to read. Thanks to the both of you for ruining 10 minutes of my life! How 'bout you both take your 'e-peen's' to PM and spare the rest of us your public relationship.
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I am out of the argument, he is enamored by this concept and there is no way to explain it otherwise.

How about taking things to PM yourself though instead of calling out another more contributing poster or just stick to lurking?
 
alkemyst said:
I am out of the argument, he is enamored by this concept and there is no way to explain it otherwise.

How about taking things to PM yourself though instead of calling out another more contributing poster or just stick to lurking?
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How bout' you eat me?
 
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