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*RUMOR* New Xbox will be '5 times more powerful' than PS4 Neo

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Link to full article. (Tweaktown)
New Xbox will be '5 times more powerful' than PS4 Neo, rocks 10 TFLOPs

An unverified source told Italian games insider x-ray that Microsoft isn't going to counter Sony's PlayStation Neo with an Xbox One upgrade, but instead make the jump to the next generation. The insider claims the new Xbox NeXt will be extremely powerful and eclipse Sony's 4K-upscaled PS4 Neo, with performance up to 5-6 times that of the Neo with an insane 10 TFLOPs compute performance. Keep in mind the following quotes are translated, so there may be some margin of error.



"I got to to read some slides from Microsoft and AMD about the new Xbox, it is in effect a new model, not a re-visitation of one. They should announce this year at a separate event at E3 2016, but still a few days before fair. the announcement will be made this year but the release of the Xbox next is expected no earlier than next spring, to read the roadmap. It will be open to change hardware, I did not understand if via upgrade or if talking about modifications which may operate on-the-fly, before the release, it will be already extremely powerful starting, I think 5-6 times PS4 Neo, we are something in the order of over 10 TFLOPS, or so. "
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Even still, take these reports with a huge salt shaker full of sodium chloride. These specs are pretty insane in console standards, and represent a huge leap from what we current have on the market.
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This sounds like the kind of thing an anti-Microsoft "journalist" does to make everyone hate MS, between those disappointed when a new console like this doesn't arrive, and those annoyed Microsoft would replace the XBG1 so quickly.
 
Just had to laugh. Yeah maybe if it comes out 5 years from now.

I have a hunch that the sudden rumors of the NX moving back to cartridges is an equally bogus thing.

poofyhairguy said:
I mean the concept makes sense to me. Forget a mid-cycle refresh. Just end the cycle year 4.
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They should just drop the concept of "generation" entirely. Games have moved well beyond that being meaningful.
 
Cartridges, I wouldn't mind. I've wondered for a few years now why they still bother with optical discs. Having 15-GB patches because Halo: TMCCwas 60+ GB at launch was awful. Sell a formatted, 128-GB flash drive that you can take to a store and buy a digital copy with. Let BB and GS and whoever have their owner little servers where someone can buy a game, load it up, and take it home. I only suggest that because selling a game with a 128-GB flash drive in the box would drive game prices up, which would suck (then again, setting up nationwide servers would do the same at first).
 
Lil Frier said:
Cartridges, I wouldn't mind. I've wondered for a few years now why they still bother with optical discs. Having 15-GB patches because Halo: TMCCwas 60+ GB at launch was awful. Sell a formatted, 128-GB flash drive that you can take to a store and buy a digital copy with. Let BB and GS and whoever have their owner little servers where someone can buy a game, load it up, and take it home. I only suggest that because selling a game with a 128-GB flash drive in the box would drive game prices up, which would suck (then again, setting up nationwide servers would do the same at first).
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That's actually a very good idea. Big local HD (like a SSHD for the speed boost!) and games shipping on an optional SD card.

$50 for digital download, $60 for FULL working version 1.x on a 16-64GB SD card. I think it'd work... piracy could be an issue through workarounds though....
 
Blue_Max said:
That's actually a very good idea. Big local HD (like a SSHD for the speed boost!) and games shipping on an optional SD card.

$50 for digital download, $60 for FULL working version 1.x on a 16-64GB SD card. I think it'd work... piracy could be an issue through workarounds though....
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Sounds like a decent idea but if you want to keep all your games you would run into a few issues. Unless they make the internal HD of the system swappable so you could install a bigger one and load the games on there.

Or offer those who got the digital copy unlimited downloads to the game. I can't imagine how many people would lose those little flash drives too.

They wouldn't do it without strong DRM though, there would be a huge piracy issue with flash drives unless they were only made to work with the system. But then again memory cards and flash drives are universal and anything of that nature can be cracked over time.
 
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sze5003 said:
Sounds like a decent idea but if you want to keep all your games you would run into a few issues. Unless they make the internal HD of the system swappable so you could install a bigger one and load the games on there.

Or offer those who got the digital copy unlimited downloads to the game. I can't imagine how many people would lose those little flash drives too.

They wouldn't do it without strong DRM though, there would be a huge piracy issue with flash drives unless they were only made to work with the system. But then again memory cards and flash drives are universal and anything of that nature can be cracked over time.
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Technically, we already have something like that in place. You can put games on an external HDD but it only works when logged into XBL. Very simple, you have to log into XBL at the store, download the game and then it's linked to your account. When you get home, in order to play, log in again and the game is associated with the console. Today, I can get a USB 3.0 drive for around $30.
 
KentState said:
Technically, we already have something like that in place. You can put games on an external HDD but it only works when logged into XBL. Very simple, you have to log into XBL at the store, download the game and then it's linked to your account. When you get home, in order to play, log in again and the game is associated with the console. Today, I can get a USB 3.0 drive for around $30.
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In that case then it is pretty simple and people can bring their own drive. I would be for digital if they dropped the price by $10. I usually always buy disc copies so I can trade them in when I'm done if I don't feel the worth of keeping the games.
 
sze5003 said:
In that case then it is pretty simple and people can bring their own drive. I would be for digital if they dropped the price by $10. I usually always buy disc copies so I can trade them in when I'm done if I don't feel the worth of keeping the games.
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They tried all digital and people lost their minds. Also, I don't know why places like BestBuy, etc, couldn't set up a kiosk that allowed you to plug in a thumb drive and "buy" a digital game to transfer when you get home. That would be pretty easy and fairly safe. It is a one time activated when you sign in to XBL and transfer type of thing.
 
No way this rumor is true, consoles always skimp on the hardware like a mother buzzer. If a new gaming console came out this year I wouldn't be thinking Titan. I'd be thinking... oh... GTX 950 ish. Tops. (and likely paired with an ancient low end CPU) They always lag behind PCs.
 
Sonikku said:
No way this rumor is true, consoles always skimp on the hardware like a mother buzzer. If a new gaming console came out this year I wouldn't be thinking Titan. I'd be thinking... oh... GTX 950 ish. Tops. (and likely paired with an ancient low end CPU) They always lag behind PCs.
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Huh? No, consoles don't always skimp on power, this generation they did it to save costs so they wouldn't lose money on every system sold like they did last generation and to keep heat issues down. Xbox 360 and PS3 were fairly powerful when released.
 
Sonikku said:
No way this rumor is true, consoles always skimp on the hardware like a mother buzzer. If a new gaming console came out this year I wouldn't be thinking Titan. I'd be thinking... oh... GTX 950 ish. Tops. (and likely paired with an ancient low end CPU) They always lag behind PCs.
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You know, I think the average consumer would be happier to have a bulkier game console with affordable-but-speedy desktop PC-class video solution than a thin, expensive one with a laptop-class (or otherwise proprietary) design.
 
Blue_Max said:
You know, I think the average consumer would be happier to have a bulkier game console with affordable-but-speedy desktop PC-class video solution than a thin, expensive one with a laptop-class (or otherwise proprietary) design.
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Very few people care about how many theoretical max throughput a console has. Games, friends, price are the 3 things 99% of people care about. And even when there are glaring issues with a game, nobody complains the consoles aren't powerful enough. Nobody said "Man, Blighttown has awful performance! If only the Xbox 360 was more powerful!" Nobody said "Man, if I look at this beautiful water, DS2 becomes a slide show. If only the PS3 was more powerful!" No, they said "Man, From, get your stuff together, because this is terrible."
 
smackababy said:
Very few people care about how many theoretical max throughput a console has. Games, friends, price are the 3 things 99% of people care about. And even when there are glaring issues with a game, nobody complains the consoles aren't powerful enough. Nobody said "Man, Blighttown has awful performance! If only the Xbox 360 was more powerful!" Nobody said "Man, if I look at this beautiful water, DS2 becomes a slide show. If only the PS3 was more powerful!" No, they said "Man, From, get your stuff together, because this is terrible."
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Heh.... guess you're right... it's a PC thaang. 😎
 
Its not about power, Consoles are made so they can run any game developers make, Extra power doesnt add anything to games performance, they are made to run on all "Console Versions".
Im a huge gaming fan, I have PS4, Xbox one, and new PC,

Sadly, i sold my Xbox one yesterday, there is nothing special about the Exclusives, and some are getting released for pc, like gears of war and forza to be released.

I had it collecting dust for 6 months, i think PS4 was more better than Xbox one this generation.
 
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Anubis said:
you can do it now

you cant and wont be able to do it for 400/500$ which is what consoles target
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Correct, but this launches in the future, not now. Also, it seems to be bucking console trends and may be making an expensive/risky power play against Sony. Basically, capitalize on it being the first upgradable generation (well, original XBOX was X86 also) by letting Sony make the first move and then countering it with a move Sony can't reasonably match within the life of this platform.
 
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