Rumor: Intel to postpone LGA2011 to Q4 2011

[RussianSensation]

16GB sounds like chump change for LGA 2011, 16GB will likely be standard fare for many enthusiasts by Q4'11, regardless of platform - I already have 16GB on my LGA 1155 system and even had 24GB in my LGA 1366 system at one point just to mess around with. 4GB DDR3 modules are becoming very affordable.

I wouldn't say that. $100-150 extra on Ram, $50-100 extra for the mobo, and you are looking at a huge increase in price over 1155 without even touching the processor yet. Granted, you can probably run the platform in dual-channel.

At the same time unless you are into specific applications that use > 4GB of Ram, you are looking at $50 (4GB DDR3-1600) / $100 8GB DDR3-1600 vs. $200 (16GB DDR3-1600) ram spending. I think most people will gladly spend $100-150 on a faster SSD like the Vertex 3 or put that $ towards a new 28nm videocard in Q4' 11 rather than just buying pointless amounts of Ram. Perhaps use all that ram as Ram Disk in Firefox?

 

[Throckmorton]

Why all these different platforms? Doesn't it get expensive?

 

[tweakboy]

I believe this. Dec 2011 is my guess. thx

 

[PreferLinux]

Why all these different platforms? Doesn't it get expensive?

Yes, it would be more expensive, but it lets them have cheaper low-mid range platforms. They can make up for the expense by making the high-end, workstation and server platforms expensive as in those areas most don't mind the high cost.

 

[Idontcare]

Why all these different platforms? Doesn't it get expensive?

That is the economic purpose served by the marketing dept in their machination of product segmentation.

Enrich those average selling prices, tier in the value chain, enable the upsell...

When it works, it does wonders.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

If IB expands beyond quad-cores then I'd hope they are entertaining the prospect of making triple channel mainstream.

do you mean IB for 1155? SB is going to go 6 and 8 core for 2011 before IB even gets here

also, considering 1155 ever increasing the importance of its IGP, I'd argue triple or even quad channel memory bandwidth makes more sense for the mainstream than it does in 2011 (or even 1366) for the enthusiast. It makes sense to me to feed ever increasing powerful IGPs more and more memory bandwidth

I wouldn't say that. $100-150 extra on Ram, $50-100 extra for the mobo, and you are looking at a huge increase in price over 1155 without even touching the processor yet. Granted, you can probably run the platform in dual-channel.

I would and did say it. After spending $1000+ on the CPU alone, the extra ram for a high end LGA-2011 setup is chump change unless you're going for 8GB modules or redonkulous overclocked ones. As far as the standard fare comment, all I meant is that I won't be surprised to see the number of 16GB+ rigs out there dramatically increase by the end of 2011. I'm sure many gamers will opt for 8GB and spending the extra elsewhere, but I'm sure we'll see many users start to expand beyond 8GB. I never said 16GB would become the majority amongst enthusiasts

At the same time unless you are into specific applications that use > 4GB of Ram, you are looking at $50 (4GB DDR3-1600) / $100 8GB DDR3-1600 vs. $200 (16GB DDR3-1600) ram spending. I think most people will gladly spend $100-150 on a faster SSD like the Vertex 3 or put that $ towards a new 28nm videocard in Q4' 11 rather than just buying pointless amounts of Ram. Perhaps use all that ram as Ram Disk in Firefox?

Applications that can actually flex the power of 6 and 8 cores can also pretty easily push the limits of 12-16GB, I've already done it with just 4. People who go for LGA-2011 to get production value out of it instead of just for gaming, benching and e-peen I would wager will surely go for 16+GB on a regular basis, although I'm sure the number who do will be relatively small.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Can someone tell me what 16gb is needed for? I've only once seen my memory usage go over 4gb on my triple channel 6gb rig and I've been running X-58 since it came out.

 

[Castiel]

Can someone tell me what 16gb is needed for? I've only once seen my memory usage go over 4gb on my triple channel 6gb rig and I've been running X-58 since it came out.

Video editing, E peen

 

[Idontcare]

Can someone tell me what 16gb is needed for? I've only once seen my memory usage go over 4gb on my triple channel 6gb rig and I've been running X-58 since it came out.

I very much doubt there is such a thing as "the typical user", hence we are all operating our rigs on a very generalized platform that is not hardware specific to its usage class. (unlike say Power7 or Itanium or ARM)

The stuff I do with my rig is by no means unique, the software exists because there are hundreds of thousands of users, but at the same time there aren't hundreds of millions of users either...all those other people are doing stuff with their rigs that I'm entirely ignorant of.

For me, I need large memory for the following:

1) Backtesting automated trade strategies in foreign currency exchange.

Depending on the depth of historical records you are accessing, each instance can consume 2-4GB and generally you operate one instance per processing thread.

On a quad-core with hyperthreading that means I need/use 16GB minimum, not counting the ram necessary for the OS itself, and even then I'd really like to have 32GB so I can make use of the entire historical records that are at my disposal.

2) Computational chemistry for molecular modeling is highly scalable in thread count and the performance is tightly dependent on both quantity of memory as well as bandwidth. (hence molecular modeling is present in specfp benchmarking)

3) Ramdisk. Nothing makes a system responsive like having a multi-GB ramdrive provided you have enough ram that you can afford to set aside some for a sizable ramdrive (5.25GB here) that houses your frequently used apps and data sets.

 

[beginner99]

3) Ramdisk. Nothing makes a system responsive like having a multi-GB ramdrive provided you have enough ram that you can afford to set aside some for a sizable ramdrive (5.25GB here) that houses your frequently used apps and data sets.

Is ramdisk still better than superfetch? For applications I mean. what if you change your data set and have a power failure? ok, you probably have an ups anyway.

 

[exar333]

16GB sounds like chump change for LGA 2011, 16GB will likely be standard fare for many enthusiasts by Q4'11, regardless of platform - I already have 16GB on my LGA 1155 system and even had 24GB in my LGA 1366 system at one point just to mess around with. 4GB DDR3 modules are becoming very affordable.

Why not when you can buy this for ~$100 right now?

 

[samboy]

I found this Intel Roadmap PDF document:-

Intel 2011 Roadmap

Interestingly the roadmap for 2H '11 has I7-990X Extreme Edition and no mention of Socket 2011 for consumer platform.

However, not sure if the "2011 Platforms" for "DT Enterprise Platforms" are it?

Anyone make sense of this?

 

[IntelUser2000]

I found this Intel Roadmap PDF document:-

Intel 2011 Roadmap

Interestingly the roadmap for 2H '11 has I7-990X Extreme Edition and no mention of Socket 2011 for consumer platform.

However, not sure if the "2011 Platforms" for "DT Enterprise Platforms" are it?

Anyone make sense of this?

It doesn't mean it doesn't exist, they just didn't post it. If it's a public-enough roadmap, there will be secrets.

 

[Idontcare]

Is ramdisk still better than superfetch? For applications I mean. what if you change your data set and have a power failure? ok, you probably have an ups anyway.

Superfetch is the poorest of a poor man's substitute for the crappiest of crappiest of ramdrive alternatives.

There is a reason that MS has windows disable it as soon as you install an SSD.

And yes I UPS, I pity the fools who spend $1500 on their rig but can't have the foresight to invest in a $80 UPS to at least provide enough juice to do a hibernate when power goes out.

(and superspeed ramdisk backs-up and restores the drive contents on its own, really its been foolproof enough for this fool for me to be using it for nearly 5 yrs now)

 

[Rifter]

Superfetch is the poorest of a poor man's substitute for the crappiest of crappiest of ramdrive alternatives.

There is a reason that MS has windows disable it as soon as you install an SSD.

And yes I UPS, I pity the fools who spend $1500 on their rig but can't have the foresight to invest in a $80 UPS to at least provide enough juice to do a hibernate when power goes out.

(and superspeed ramdisk backs-up and restores the drive contents on its own, really its been foolproof enough for this fool for me to be using it for nearly 5 yrs now)

I agree a 4GB+ ramdisk can help alot for most used apps, browser cache too. I was going to pickup another 6GB of ram to do exactly that but am afraid it will impact my overclock running 6 sticks.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Why not when you can buy this for ~$100 right now?

well I do already have 16+GB rigs

what I was saying is that I think by the end of 2011 it won't be quite as unheard of to see people with that amount of ram and would rather be fairly commonplace - whether they need or can even ever use that much being irrelevant

 

[ZipSpeed]

Same here! I got 12 GB just because I can.

 

[Nemesis 1]

When is Sandy Bridge coming back?

They should be focusing on that FIRST......hehe

The 14 th of feb. Is when they start shiping B3 chipset to M/B makers. Seems AT blew up the time that these M/B would be off the market. Fact is AT went out of its way to stress that We won't see replacemant M/Bs befor april.

 

[OCGuy]

Same here! I got 12 GB just because I can.

That is just......wow.