Rummy exit expected; Lieberman eyed for job

BBond

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Now this would explain a lot, wouldn't it Joe???

Rummy exit expected; Lieberman eyed for job

BY THOMAS M. DEFRANK and KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - White House officials are telling associates they expect Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to quit early next year, once a new government is formed in Iraq, sources said yesterday.

Rumsfeld's deputy, Gordon England, is the inside contender to replace him, but there's also speculation that Sen. Joe Lieberman - a Democrat who ran against Bush-Cheney in the 2000 election - might become top guy at the Pentagon.

That's not as farfetched as it might first appear.

The Daily News has learned that the White House considered Lieberman for the UN ambassador's job last year before giving the post to John Bolton, a Bush adviser said.

"He thought about it for a week or so and finally said no," the adviser recalled.

A source close to the White House said Rumsfeld wanted out a year ago, after Bush's reelection, but neither he nor President Bush wanted his departure to appear to have been forced.

"They didn't want to give the critics the satisfaction that their piling on was what got rid of him," a Bush adviser said.

Bush has told friends that Rumsfeld is a political liability, but the President has a history of sticking with his personnel baggage until an opportune moment.

"Only Rumsfeld will make Rumsfeld leave," a White House source said.

Rumors that Lieberman could replace Rumsfeld started flying early this week, and Bush and Vice President Cheney fanned the flames by quoting the former Democratic veep candidate's pro-war statements.

The mention of Lieberman's name prompted some Democrats to whisper that he is lobbying for the job.

"Lieberman seems to be coordinating his statements on the war with the White House," a Senate Democratic source said.

The source pointed to a news conference this week where Lieberman urged his party not to undermine Bush. The timing of Lieberman's pitch, also this week, to form a bipartisan "war cabinet" to aid Bush was cited as well.

But Lieberman and Team Bush dismissed the rumors.

"The U.S. Senate is where Sen. Lieberman wants to be, which is why he is actively campaigning for reelection to his fourth term," the senator's spokeswoman, Casey Aden-Wansbury, said.

And of course, Rumsfeld's denial.

CORRECTED: Rumsfeld says 'I have no plans to retire'

In WASHINGTON story headlined "Rumsfeld says 'I have no plans to retire'" ... please read in second paragraph ... New York Daily News ... instead of ... New York Post ...

By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the craftsman of U.S. Iraq war strategy and a magnet for criticism, said on Thursday he had no plans to retire from the post more than 2-1/2 years into the conflict.

"Those reports have been flying around since about four months after I assumed my post in 2001," Rumsfeld, 73, told reporters on Capitol Hill when asked about a New York Daily News report that White House officials are telling associates they expect him to quit early next year.

"I have no plans to retire," added Rumsfeld, who has been criticized over the conduct of the Iraq and the treatment of detainees in U.S. military custody.

The New York Daily News reported that Gordon England, the No. 2 official at the Pentagon, was the "inside contender" to replace Rumsfeld, but that Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut Democrat, also was a possibility.

In fact, the Defense Department said Rumsfeld held an early-morning meeting at the Pentagon on Thursday with Lieberman. The senator's views of the Iraq war, in contrast with many other Democrats, have been quoted approvingly in recent speeches by President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld himself.

"He has breakfast with members of Congress all the time," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. "Senator Lieberman just returned from Iraq and he had some interesting observations. And he's been very outspoken about what he's seen and the progress that he thinks is being made there."

Rumsfeld has been criticized for the conduct of the war, with some prominent Democrats including Massachusetts senators Edward Kennedy and John Kerry demanding his resignation. Rumsfeld also has had frosty relations even with fellow Republicans in Congress.

A combative former collegiate wrestler and Navy fighter pilot, Rumsfeld has established himself as the most powerful Pentagon chief since Vietnam War era defense secretary Robert McNamara. He was the youngest man to hold the job when President Gerald Ford appointed him in 1975 and now, in his second stint in the post, is the oldest.

Rumsfeld said in February that he twice offered his resignation to Bush last year over the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal, but both times was asked to stay in the job.
 

Todd33

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For the sake of Iraq and the US we can only hope it's true. I wish Lieberman would just change parties, he's a fake like Zell.
 

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Originally posted by: Todd33
For the sake of Iraq and the US we can only hope it's true. I wish Lieberman would just change parties, he's a fake like Zell.

One of the biggest mistakes Gore made was naming Lieberman, of all people, as his running mate.

He may as well named Cheney.

 

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I think Lieberman got the old "taste of power' when he ran for VP. Since then he has tried to do things that will get him back on a national ticket. Unfortunately he seems to think acting Republican will help him.
It won't.
And the Bushies would never, ever, ever, ever pick him for Secretary of Defense.
 
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Todd33
For the sake of Iraq and the US we can only hope it's true. I wish Lieberman would just change parties, he's a fake like Zell.

One of the biggest mistakes Gore made was naming Lieberman, of all people, as his running mate.

He may as well named Cheney.

So if a guy doesn't walk in lock-step with the fringe left he needs to go? Thought police anyone?
 

BBond

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I laughed at Rummy's quote, 'I have no plans to retire'.

Hey, Rummy, I'll bet that's what they all said. ;)

Did Shinseki say that to you?

 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Todd33
For the sake of Iraq and the US we can only hope it's true. I wish Lieberman would just change parties, he's a fake like Zell.

One of the biggest mistakes Gore made was naming Lieberman, of all people, as his running mate.

He may as well named Cheney.

So if a guy doesn't walk in lock-step with the fringe left he needs to go? Thought police anyone?

Please, if a guy walks in lock-step with the insane opposition he has to go. Every news station has been bellowing Lieberman's comments as proof of the viability of Bush's failed Iraq strategy. Now it's clear why he made those comments.

What a POS.

 

Strk

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It sure would be nice to see Rummy go, but Lieberman is a pretty bad choice.
 

Todd33

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Stabbing your party in the back while supporting a president who is vastly unpopular for many reasons has nothing to do with the fringe left.
 

Passions

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Rummy will be in power as long as Bush is.

Thank God. This nation needs leaders with backbone.

:thumbsup:
 

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Originally posted by: Passions
Rummy will be in power as long as Bush is.

Thank God. This nation needs leaders with backbone.

:thumbsup:

I'd rather have leaders leading us in the right direction.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Passions
Rummy will be in power as long as Bush is.

Thank God. This nation needs leaders with backbone.

:thumbsup:

Backbone???

So that's how they refer to incompetence these days.
 

Lemon law

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Yep,

That Lieberman replaces Rummy RUMOR was even on the CBS news--labeled as such complete with denials all around.

The real question unaddressed is what group are pushing these rumors and why?
 
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Yep,

That Lieberman replaces Rummy RUMOR was even on the CBS news--labeled as such complete with denials all around.

The real question unaddressed is what group are pushing these rumors and why?

That is an excellent question. Think the Admin is floating a trial balloon?
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Yep,

That Lieberman replaces Rummy RUMOR was even on the CBS news--labeled as such complete with denials all around.

The real question unaddressed is what group are pushing these rumors and why?

That is an excellent question. Think the Admin is floating a trial balloon?

Bush is so desparate he's hoping Lieberman -- even if he is only a pseudo-Democrat -- can help him. He'll find out what Gore found out. Lieberman is for Lieberman. Period. He's there for the highest bidder.
 

ntdz

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I'd actually like to see Rumsfeld replaced by Lieberman...I like Lieberman when it comes to defense.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: ntdz
I'd actually like to see Rumsfeld replaced by Lieberman...I like Lieberman when it comes to defense.

Another good reason why Lieberman would be a terrible choice.

:)
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: ntdz
I'd actually like to see Rumsfeld replaced by Lieberman...I like Lieberman when it comes to defense.

Another good reason why Lieberman would be a terrible choice.

:)

lol...who do you suggest, Dean?
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: ntdz
I'd actually like to see Rumsfeld replaced by Lieberman...I like Lieberman when it comes to defense.

Another good reason why Lieberman would be a terrible choice.

:)

lol...who do you suggest, Dean?

I think John Murtha would be an excellent choice.

 

Steeplerot

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No way, murtha actually served in the military, bush and friends do not take kind to someone knowing what they are doing.

military is a tool for being used, not giving orders to them.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: slyedog
probably his bitch, Kerry

You're comments are becoming so predictably worthless.

Although Kerry didn't cross my mind, I believe that, unlike the current administration full of lying, war profiteering chickenhawks, at least Kerry would have some consideration for the safety of our troops rather than sending them into the meat grinder over and over again for abosolutely no reason whatsoever and without the least bit of planning -- like your bitch, Rumsfeld.

;)
 

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This explains Leibermann eager optimism. I'm optimistic about the war, but not eager...