Rumars about AMD going into a slump?

[Regs]

I heard a few rumars from techy chat people about AMD is suffering in the market. If thats true, Im mad!
I think AMDs are alot better then Intels over priced waffers. So what if amd's are mostly 1-2 Ghz, I bet they do better then most p4 2.0-2.8 Ghz's. Even though Ive heard the northwoods and the hyper threads are just going to wipe the floor, Im just mad Intel can just price a cpu to whatever they want it to.

 

[Insane3D]

Ohhhh boy.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Ohhhh boy.

another round...

 

[Texun]

Take a look here..

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: texun
Take a look over here.

If not release the desktop version...i really wish they would release the server chips so they could gain server share. At least they got a deal with someone for something like 10,000 opterons when released.

 

[sandorski]

Going? They've been in a slump for 1+ years now.

 

[yhelothar]

10,000 opterons is like 10million dollars profit... not too much, but will help AMD a lot.. since their budget is really going dry...

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Ohhhh boy.

another round...

Ding ding........FIGHT!!!!!!

 

[Pocatello]

I think the whole computer industry is in as slump. A lot of companies aren't upgrading their computers, they don't really need a 3GHz computer. With Barton's price similar to the P4, most people will choose the P4 for their system (besides fanboys).

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
I think the whole computer industry is in as slump. A lot of companies aren't upgrading their computers, they don't really need a 3GHz computer. With Barton's price similar to the P4, most people will choose the P4 for their system (besides fanboys).

Alot of consumers are not upgrading either. They are finding that their PIII 600 meet their computer needs for internet surfing and Microsoft Office.

 

[spanky]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Pocatello
I think the whole computer industry is in as slump. A lot of companies aren't upgrading their computers, they don't really need a 3GHz computer. With Barton's price similar to the P4, most people will choose the P4 for their system (besides fanboys).

Alot of consumers are not upgrading either. They are finding that their PIII 600 meet their computer needs for internet surfing and Microsoft Office.

ouch. i could not imagine going back to a p3 600 class cpu

 

[magomago]

Exactly Dr. Smooth


People just don't upgrade their PC because its been long enough.

Does it run Word? Yes.
Does it let my use the internet? Yes.
Can I check my e-mail? Yes.
Will it play some songs? Yes.

Why do I need a newer pc then?



And until companies realize this (because us as an enthusiat crowd...we are small though we spend a lot ) I don't think they'll get out of that slump.

 

[Jeff7]

The entire PC industry has been in a slump for awhile now.

 

[dullard]

Yes AMD has been in a slump profit wise. The last time they had a profit was the 1st quarter of 2001. For the two prior years (1999-2001) they made profits in most quarters, but their CPUs were clearly faster than Intel's and AMD charged between $612 and $1299 ($851 average) for the top Athlon chip. Then AMD slashed prices in March 2001. Their top chips were priced between $193 and $420 ($305 average) from March 2001 to Feb 9, 2003. So AMD was getting on average 64% less money for their top chip. I only gave prices and averages of those prices for their top chip, but the other chips were similar. If you suddenly get 64% less money per chip (while costs remain roughly the same) your profit will take a nose dive. AMD hasn't made a profit since. At the same time Intel's profit was cut but Intel still was making billions a year in profit (top priced chip averaged about $600).

Things are looking up for AMD. Their last few top chip release were priced at: $193, $297, $349, $397, $588. So as you can see in the last six months AMD's prices have soared. That should bring AMD's average chip prices up significantly. Thus AMD hopefully will start to make a profit. Hammer should help a lot too, with prices "significantly higher" than the Barton according to AMD.

 

[Regs]

So what we need is very useful programs for everybody to use that require Ghz CPU's and such. Well I can think of some such products but the general public does not use a lot of them. Hight interactive programs for the learning use would do great to add more buyers. Architecture, Art, engineering, computer science, networking ect.. These programs can be an advanced form of education and home schooling. I'm sure they are out there, but not has high-tech as needed to require such CPU power.

In other words Mr.gates needs to get off his arse.

 

[jagr10]

What Bill Gates needs to do (or some other nerd) is make a demand for some power consuming software. Then that will force people to upgrade.

 

[dullard]

Well Regs, that has got to be the longest time I've ever seen for a reply. It took you 6 weeks to come up with that? Kidding.

 

[AtomicDude512]

Originally posted by: spankyOO7

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Pocatello
I think the whole computer industry is in as slump. A lot of companies aren't upgrading their computers, they don't really need a 3GHz computer. With Barton's price similar to the P4, most people will choose the P4 for their system (besides fanboys).

Alot of consumers are not upgrading either. They are finding that their PIII 600 meet their computer needs for internet surfing and Microsoft Office.

ouch. i could not imagine going back to a p3 600 class cpu

Me neither.

 

[Regs]

If I remember correctly, Bill Gates was the one who said 'you would not need more than 512k of ram. ' Might of been even lower. Yes, I like contradicting myself!

 

[phatj]

What are rumars?

 

[jagr10]

Originally posted by: phatj
What are rumars?

Either it's a spelling error or it's just a "street slang style" of spelling it. You know when you say "dat's koo" instead of "that's cool". That type of thing. I don't know.

 

[Spicedaddy]

They're just roomars.

 

[kalster]

let the flames begin lol

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: Regs
If I remember correctly, Bill Gates was the one who said 'you would not need more than 512k of ram. ' Might of been even lower. Yes, I like contradicting myself!

Actually it was 640K of memory, and his quote has been taken way out of context.

So what if amd's are mostly 1-2 Ghz, I bet they do better then most p4 2.0-2.8 Ghz's. Even though Ive heard the northwoods and the hyper threads are just going to wipe the floor, Im just mad Intel can just price a cpu to whatever they want it to.

If you think a 1Ghz Athlon can, on average, outperform a 2 Ghz Northwood, then you really need to get out of your cave.

 

[Regs]

Ever since the FSB's and caches of the Northwood's went sky high, I really doubt too the AMDs out preform the soup-ed up woodies. My statement is about.... 3 months obsolete.