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umbrella39

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Good. Now she can go detox the right way, get through it, and hopefully stay clean after she gets out. She needs to be sober, she has proven that she is not a very good drunk/druggie.
 

Lemon law

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She managed to get the 45 days cut in half--and then tried to do much better than that by getting out in five---and her reward for all her continued hard work is back to 45 days
and the book thrown at her. The question is will she keep trying or just take her lumps? But one thing for sure---after she gets out she will relive all her trauma in tear jerking detail in every media outlet she can find-- and make a fortune doing it.-------some celibs have to die to get that much free publicity.

 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
She managed to get the 45 days cut in half--and then tried to do much better than that by getting out in five---and her reward for all her continued hard work is back to 45 days
and the book thrown at her. The question is will she keep trying or just take her lumps? But one thing for sure---after she gets out she will relive all her trauma in tear jerking detail in every media outlet she can find-- and make a fortune doing it.-------some celibs have to die to get that much free publicity.

I'm thinking we'll prolly see a "Paris Watch - Day #X" on every evening news cast. Like "Paris- Day 15" (if she lasts that long). But, but, will Arnold pardon her? ;)

Can't wait to see how the Daily Show handles this :)

Fern
 

BDawg

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To reiterate: Paris is not in jail for the DUI. She is in jail because she broke her probation *twice*. IMHO, 45 days is light for breaking probation twice.
 

BarneyFife

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Originally she was pulled over for drinking and got a fine, community service, and had to enroll in some class. She didn't do any of this and she then violated her probation twice. Not to mention that she was late for court each time. She never took it seriously and the judge finally had enough and threw her in prison for a few weeks. I think she needs a dose of reality because its probably the first time in her life where she wasn't in control of the situation.
 

SlickSnake

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The only thing worse than binging on jail grub is purging it later while the *** roomy looks on. I am sure that is enough to get someone thrown out of prison on a medical excuse. No one wants to see, hear or smell that.

And the gold plated toilet at home is so much nicer when one has to grab the rim for an hour or so after a big expensive meal. Also, there is no maid to clean up the mess in jail. After all, she might break a nail doing it herself. Then the lawsuits would really fly!

She was obviously not worth those 2 packs of menthol smokes someone traded for her before they found out her dirty little secret to keeping slim and model like.




 

smack Down

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Why do people keep claim she was in jail for 5 days. She was in jail for 3 days and 3 hours.
 

sandorski

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I'm literally LOL at this, but part of me has some empathy for her. Despite how spoiled and deserving of this treatment she is genuinely stressed about this. I just hope within the next 45ish days she comes to an epiphany and comes out a changed person. Hopefully changed for the better.

Until then...ROFL
 

Lemon law

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What does she think this is---jail is not a Holiday Inn Express---and she can complain about the jail management---but they are not in the repeat customer satisfaction business.
But if Paris does desire a return visit for old times sake in the future---I am sure that it can be arranged.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: BDawg
To reiterate: Paris is not in jail for the DUI. She is in jail because she broke her probation *twice*. IMHO, 45 days is light for breaking probation twice.

Let me highlight this point (and a few others) that appear lost on the peanut gallery:

1) As BDawg notes, Hilton did not get jail for her DUI.
2) She didn't get jail the 1st time for multiple violations of the terms of her probation.
3) She received a 45 day sentence for the 2nd time (she got caught) violating her probation.
4) She gets her sentenced cut in half for 'good behavior' before serving a single minute . . . not a peep from the judge.
5) The press is filled with stories about Hilton getting single facilities, inmates doing extra cleaning, staff making other special arrangements for Hilton . . . not a peep from the judge.
6) Hilton spends 3 days and 3 hours in jail and then gets released for an unspecified medical condition . . . not enough to keep her away from the MTV awards, though . . . the judge is pissed but let's it pass despite the fact he explicitly stated that house arrest was not a suitable sentence.
7) Formal legal protests from city officials compels the judge to have a hearing about Hilton's disposition.
8) Apparently, Hilton's medical condition did not preclude her from serving time in jail and the judge reinstates his original ruling.

If not for Hilton and the sheriff seeking 'special treatment', she could have served a week in jail and probably gone home. It's hard to believe you people that have so much celebrity worship that you think the judge has done something wrong.
 

LunarRay

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The question to be asked is not to do with Ms. Hilton or any other particular person but rather does the Sheriff of the various California Counties and does the Bureau of Prisons and the State Prison Authorities and any other jurisdiction have the right under statute(s) to determine when to release a 'prisoner' out right or into another form of 'arrest'.

I think the answer is YES.... indeed they do.

There is codified in at least the states I've looked at just such authority.

One of many such indications is Parole...

One section of California Code
 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Maybe the reason we hate Paris so much is because she is a reflection of us collectively and we don't like what we see.

Who hates her?

I'd party and get drunk with her.

I screw her brains out on tape all night (with my wife of course).

Where's the hate?
TMI

 

ProfJohn

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SirStev0

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
This is funny now that two threads have happened about how offended everyone is for Paris Hilton to be getting out of jail, and nobody but me (as far as I've seen) has noted the part of the original article where it says that the 5 days she served are the average number for a violation of this type.

Be mad at Paris for being stupid dumpy hag, but while she shouldn't get off more easily for her celebrity... she also shouldn't be punished more harshly. It appears that the city is so afraid of appearing to give her preferential treatment that they are going to throw her in jail for way longer then most people would for doing the same thing.

Now the whole "let me out because I don't like the food" thing is crap, but we don't know the whole story behind that either. I admit that hearing about that superior bitch apparently overwhelmed by the rigors of having to spend a few days in jail brings some personal satisfaction to me, but.. meh.

Bull... I know a guy in the pokey for violating his probation ONCE (not three times) by driving (with a valid license not a revoked one) under the influence of two beers (he is both of age and blew well under the DUI point... I believe something like 0.02 since it was an hour and a half or so since he started drinking). He is doing 3 months no possibility of early release. You want to talk about injustice and compare the two cases you go ahead.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
The interest in Paris represents our worst compulsion, when people read about her they dream about money, fashion, wretched excess, the blindingly superficial.

Paris Hilton is, an amalgamation of American culture in precipitous decline. When money is all that matters then Paris is what you get and money is everything that matters in America.

Our country is run and governed by people waiting on paychecks, kickbacks, extravagent lunches and front row seats at professional sports games.

The less fortunate of us, sit back and complain while those hoping to make it rich one day call them haters and communists for speaking out against the atrocities of the wealthy that rule this country.

There may be an element of jealousy for some but that only underscores the political and socioeconomic divide that money does afford one in this country.

Paris had sex on tape. Lots of people do that. Paris gets drunk all the time in public. Lots of people do that. Maybe the reason we hate Paris so much, besides the fact that she doesn't deserve our attention, is because she is a reflection of us collectively and we don't like what we see.

We have a terrible time in this country separating our emotions from the facts. The media is resposible for this Paris obsession because people watch it and because they have to keep our minds off important issues you actually have to think about.

Seriously, she's big business - don't for a second buy into the fact that she's just out having fun. Forbes listed her most recent year's earnings at greater than $10M, which is probably much more than those a rung higher in the family tree make on their Hilton legacy dividends in a year.

Every move is scripted by her and her handlers, her PR guy knows exactly where she'll be every night and smooths the sailing. She needs to remain front and center to continue getting contracts and paid exhorbitant sums to simply show up.

Many of us would probably applaud her aplomb had she invented the slinky, yoyo or Rubik's cube - each socially useless items that engrossed some people's time more than it should and heaped millions upon their creators.

She's got it, and flaunts it, would you rather she does what she does, or have her confined behind a burkha, along with everyone else? Freedom is a great thing, and Paris exploits it in spades.

actually... very well said.
 

MadRat

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BMW540I6speed offers a genuinely honest to goodness commentary on society only to be soiled by dave. Good job, dave.
 

BMW540I6speed

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She is being used by the media to symbolize all the national angst that makes so many bucks for those who charge to see it on TV. In print, otherwise so called respectable journalists write long diatribes, dialogues, dissertations, dismissils, dish, dirt, deliberate falsehoods and sensationalisms, to cash in on that gravy train like the guy who jumped into the market to make accessories for the Pet Rock.

Paris sells...page hits, magazines, etc. When people stop buying, that's when she'll fade. We buy what the media feeds us. People say they don't want war in Iraq, but they'd rather watch American Idol than protest in the streets. You can blame the media for making us stupid sheeple who "pay for Paris," but the fact is we get exactly what we "want": trendy glammer that we then go buy on the cheap at Walmart.

Will Paris Hilton benefit from this horrendous experience?

If she gets a regular early out then she'll have been treated like the majority of pains-in-the-ass who jam the system with their idiot behavior anyway. If not, well hell, she may actually gain a tiny bit of insight into what it's like to be a real person.

I don't think she, herself, is as important as that fact that such a person can obtain such a level of fame. We sure are angry at Paris Hilton. Or are we angry at her fame?

Many express such a strange misplaced rage.

I have no sympathy for Paris Hilton. Drunk driving is right there at the top of my list of assh@le things to do. However, it is my understanding that she is really in trouble more for driving with a suspended license resulting from the DUI rather than for the DUI itself.

But the rage in some postings, Why are you so angry? It's a rhetorical question.

You resent that justice seems unfair and unequal; you hate her for her appearance of being above the law, and for her stubborn refusal to deal with the reality that you have to deal with every day. Life is hard; it hits hard and leaves a mark. And there she is, free floating blithely above it all. She honestly seems to think that rules don't apply to her.

That is so damn frustrating. Doesn't that make you angry? She needs to go to prison. She is NOT better than anyone else. She needs to be brought down a peg or two.

But here's the thing I don't understand.

The country is headed by an entire cabal of people, from the president down, who acknowledge no rule, no law, no moral consideration as applying to them. They do what they want, when they want, and how they want.

One of them, known by the ridiculous name of "Scooter" now stands convicted and sentenced of a much greater crime than Hilton's, and was part of the cabal whose policies have been responsible for the actual deaths of tens of thousands of people.

While we're all screaming for the blood of Paris Hilton, hoping her incarceration will somehow rectify the thousand injustices done to us everyday, this convicted criminal "Scooter" is doing his best to stay out of prison, and efforts are being made by backers to make sure that he never spend a single second paying for his crimes.

Do I hear any rage? If Paris has you angry, Scooter should have you crippled with blind spitting fury.












 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Lanyap
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Maybe the reason we hate Paris so much is because she is a reflection of us collectively and we don't like what we see.

Who hates her?

I'd party and get drunk with her.

I'd screw her brains out on tape all night (with my wife of course).

Where's the hate?
TMI

How did you get Grand Nagus? I thought that was Rossman?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Quoted by: Michelle Malkin
But the sober point I made tonight is this: If the MSM and the American public worked up as much outrage over the daily release of criminal illegal aliens from L.A. County jails who go on to commit violent crimes as it did over the release of Paris Hilton, this country wouldn't be as screwed up as it is.
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What an awesome point
:thumbsup:

Get to it. Start a thread about illegal aliens and their violent crimes. Personally, I find it ironic that Malkin was sober.

Undocumented individuals build our homes and roads, pick our food, cook our food, and a myriad of other jobs. These people work hard and make do on FAR less than they deserve. Many are poorly compensated (but still better than their native homes), while others are mistreated in multiple ways by brazen employers. Yet the bigots focus on the sliver that are morally challenged.

Further, trolls like Malkin (and twits that devour her tripe) have found Paris Hilton to be a cause worth defending? You people really are sad. Malkin has NEVER been worked up about the plight of a single poor or otherwise disadvantaged person in her miserable life. When people like Malkin squawk about of rule of law they just mean the laws they like. When they complain about 'injustice' they mean imposition upon the privileged . . . aka being treated just like everybody else.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Lemon law
She managed to get the 45 days cut in half--and then tried to do much better than that by getting out in five---and her reward for all her continued hard work is back to 45 days
and the book thrown at her. The question is will she keep trying or just take her lumps? But one thing for sure---after she gets out she will relive all her trauma in tear jerking detail in every media outlet she can find-- and make a fortune doing it.-------some celibs have to die to get that much free publicity.

As she should. If she is being singled out for a harsher punishment because of her celebrity, she should also be able to profit from it. I bet the attention whore judge who sentenced her is shopping for a book deal right about now.

You don't know squat. Hilton got what every one else gets for what she did. The judge did to her what everyone else who did what she did gets. Geez, aren't you paying attention?
Or do you worship the rich and famous and want them to be treated differently?
Or was it /sarcasm?

Actually you don't know squat. Mark Gherigos was on Fox, and he said most people who are sentenced to 60 days serve no time in jail, and get much less than 60 days of electronic monitoring. Seeing how he's a lawyer in LA who does these cases all the time, he knows a lot more than you do. The judge is clearly grandstanding and singling her out by blocking the Sheriff from giving her the same treatment any other detainee gets. Clearly you are as blinded by your hatred of the rich and famous as the loser judge.
 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Lemon law
She managed to get the 45 days cut in half--and then tried to do much better than that by getting out in five---and her reward for all her continued hard work is back to 45 days
and the book thrown at her. The question is will she keep trying or just take her lumps? But one thing for sure---after she gets out she will relive all her trauma in tear jerking detail in every media outlet she can find-- and make a fortune doing it.-------some celibs have to die to get that much free publicity.

As she should. If she is being singled out for a harsher punishment because of her celebrity, she should also be able to profit from it. I bet the attention whore judge who sentenced her is shopping for a book deal right about now.

You don't know squat. Hilton got what every one else gets for what she did. The judge did to her what everyone else who did what she did gets. Geez, aren't you paying attention?
Or do you worship the rich and famous and want them to be treated differently?
Or was it /sarcasm?

Actually you don't know squat. Mark Gherigos was on Fox, and he said most people who are sentenced to 60 days serve no time in jail, and get much less than 60 days of electronic monitoring. Seeing how he's a lawyer in LA who does these cases all the time, he knows a lot more than you do. The judge is clearly grandstanding and singling her out by blocking the Sheriff from giving her the same treatment any other detainee gets. Clearly you are as blinded by your hatred of the rich and famous as the loser judge.

But do most people show up the judge by arriving late and have their mother come in and make comments and laugh during hearings? 2 people you never disrespect, police officers and judges.