RT-AC68U Tomato QOS

dantheman61

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I have the RT-AC68U with tomato and qos on. i have a 250mb/s connection. but when i have qos on i only get 150mb/s i think this has to do with CTF but my cpu usage when doing a speed test is only 45%. Is there anything I can do to get faster download with qos.
 

sdifox

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what category is the cable between your cable modem and router?
 

sdifox

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cat5e. When i have qos off i get 250mb/s+

why are you doing qos in the first place? are you having issues that would get solved by qos? Sounds like your router is not powerful enough.

Can you OC?
 
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dantheman61

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i have qos because when i have qos off and am playing online game and have a file uploading my ping in game is about 130ms when qos is on i get 30ms. If router not powerful enough what should i get that is with qos and 250mb/s+ connection.
 

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i have qos because when i have qos off and am playing online game and have a file uploading my ping in game is about 130ms when qos is on i get 30ms. If router not powerful enough what should i get that is with qos and 250mb/s+ connection.

what is your upstream speed and how is your qos setup?
what is the mechanism of file upload?


this might help

http://tomatousb.org/tut:using-tomato-s-qos-system
 
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Ertaz

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If you have an older PC laying around PFsense or ClearOS would be your friend. IT manages the QOS portion very well.
 

dantheman61

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i have a computer i can try but it only has one nic. what pcie card should i get also i just want to try it with this pc is there a all in one computer i can use pfsense with that can do 250mb/s download with qos and maybe some room to grow if i get faster download
 

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i have a computer i can try but it only has one nic. what pcie card should i get also i just want to try it with this pc is there a all in one computer i can use pfsense with that can do 250mb/s download with qos and maybe some room to grow if i get faster download

just need a good old gigabit nic, doesn't even have to be pcie. I have pfsense running in hyper-v but I don't know what you mean by all in one. try dropping p2p to just 5% and see if that helps, assuming you were referring to p2p as file upload.

gaming should not take much bandwidth anyway.
 
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Ertaz

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https://www.pfsense.org/hardware/#requirements

Their recommendations:

CPU Selection

The numbers stated in the following sections can be increased slightly for quality NICs, and decreased (possibly substantially) with low quality NICs. All of the following numbers also assume no packages are installed.

10-20 Mbps We recommend a modern (less than 4 year old) Intel or AMD CPU clocked at at least 500MHz.
21-100 Mbps We recommend a modern 1.0 GHz Intel or AMD CPU.
101-500 Mbps No less than a modern Intel or AMD CPU clocked at 2.0 GHz. Server class hardware with PCI-e network adapters, or newer desktop hardware with PCI-e network adapters.
501+ Mbps Multiple cores at > 2.0GHz are required. Server class hardware with PCI-e network adapters.


The amount of traffic you're pushing is business class. You will need some moderately beefy hardware to manage it effectively.


Note: ClearOS is a pretty fair substitute if you prefer Linux to BSD.
 

dantheman61

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by all in one i mean a box i can install pfsense on that has 2 nics.
with upload that is a backup to opendrive not p2p
 

Ertaz

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by all in one i mean a box i can install pfsense on that has 2 nics.
with upload that is a backup to opendrive not p2p

You also need to budget some time for becoming familiar with the configuration and tuning it for what you want. I can't imagine having that much bandwidth available to me. I'm supposed to get FTTH next year, but it may be 2017.
 

sdifox

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by all in one i mean a box i can install pfsense on that has 2 nics.
with upload that is a backup to opendrive not p2p

why are you doing backup while you are playing? easier to schedule that to when you are not playing no?
 

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I don't know about that hardware. It might be able to do everything you want, but I'm thinking you wouldn't want to take a chance on buying less than what you need to address the performance issues you're seeing.


I have a Dell T20 that I run mine on. It's a dedicated box right now, but knowing what I know now, I would install ESXi and throw pfsense on a VM.
 

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I have the RT-AC68U with tomato and qos on. i have a 250mb/s connection. but when i have qos on i only get 150mb/s i think this has to do with CTF but my cpu usage when doing a speed test is only 45%. Is there anything I can do to get faster download with qos.

I would try merlin's firmware on your router the implementation of CTF + FA is better, However I know when you enable QOS it starts to turn some of these features off so YMMV
 

dantheman61

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there was a new Asus firmware for my router that came out yesterday (2015/11/06) and gives me my full download and low pings. looks like CTF is enabled when Adaptive QoS is on but no FA
 

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there was a new Asus firmware for my router that came out yesterday (2015/11/06) and gives me my full download and low pings. looks like CTF is enabled when Adaptive QoS is on but no FA

So new firmware fixed your issue? Cool no money spent.
 

dantheman61

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I went ahead and bought the Netgear R7000 today and with qos on i get my full 250mb/s connection + with speed boost about 300mb\s.
 

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dantheman61

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The AC68U was weird with adaptive qos it would randomly undo the qos and upload beyond what i set it too. that is why i got the R7000

I tried merlin today but went back to stock netgear firmware i am getting about the same as the AC68U but with nothing undoing it self.