[RPS]Holy framerates, Batman

[Erenhardt]

Compared to previous batman games this game is awful from an optimization standpoint. Others needed no patch to function well, this release is a straight up mess.

This is plainly wrong.

http://tech.firstpost.com/reviews/batman-arkham-city-pc-worst-port-ever-23703.html

he final straw however was when I encountered a game breaking bug that’s not allowing me to continue the freaking game. I went online, searched for a few fixes and it seems a lot of people are facing such bugs all over hampering their progress in the bargain. A sloppy port is one thing but an unplayable game is just not acceptable.

Batman games are mess, and required a patch to boost amd performance by a huge margin.

GameBarelyWorks.

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[frozentundra123456]

exactly. gameworks suck big time. It deserves to die. It doesn't matter if this is a bad port or caused by gameworks. True or not, I want gameworks to be associated with the bugs, crashes, and poor performance. It deserves that bad stigma because I believe it is bad for gamers. I mean, seriously, just take a look at all of the Gameworks title that were released. All buggy, laggy, and poorly optimized for all platform.

Ummm...actually, my point was just the opposite. Sloppy ports are the norm, it has been that way for years. But any nVidia related port with problems, even on nVidia's own hardware, starts the whining about gameworks, AMD doesnt have access to the code, nVidia is deliberately sabatoging their own hardware, etc., when a much simpler explanation is that the devs simply did a lousy job. After all it wouldn't be the first time, it was pretty much the norm even before gameworks. Now I do think gameworks causes a big performance hit for a minor benefit, but the rhetoric just gets out of hand.

 

[Grooveriding]

At least Steam provides refunds now, so anyone who paid for the game can get a refund and wait to see if the game can be fixed.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Did anyone forget Arkham City DX 11? that was a complete disaster as well.

 

[NTMBK]

The author has updated the post with some interesting information:

Edit: Further in-house RPS testing is inconclusive. I’ve rolled back my Nvidia drivers to the previous release and now have a steady framerate (with Gameworks switched on and settings maxed) until I hit a Batmobile sequence, at which point I’m experiencing dips seemingly at random. Alec, on similar hardware, is using the latest drivers and having a better experience., though still has Batmobile problems. John is on AMD – we’ll check back with him soon.

Sounds like the beta drivers "optimized for Arkham Knight" are actually causing this performance regression. If anyone is having problems, try rolling back your driver!

 

[manimal]

GameBarelyWorks.

This is a slogan I can get behind!


The way its meant to be broken platform has hit 2.0

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[Dribble]

This is a slogan I can get behind!


The way its meant to be broken platform has hit 2.0

Obviously the fact that you can turn off all the gamesworks effect and performance still sucks makes no difference to you because it doesn't fit with your close minded agenda.

They've basically released the game too early. Someones agreed to a deadline they couldn't meet and been too afraid to go back on it - probably due contractual penalty clauses and general bullying and threats. This is the result.

 

[Goatsecks]

No way.

GTA V and Witcher 3 are amazing cross-platform titles. How it ought to be made, great console version, superior PC version.

Looking forward to Fallout 4 & Battlefront. I have more respect for Bethesda & DICE than Rocksteady/WB and Ubifail.

Witcher 3 has had much of the detail stripped out of it, compared to the promo 'in game' footage, so consoles can run the game.

I accept that not all modern games are poor ports however most of them are ports and often incorporate clunky console UI and a hamstrung engine.

In any case seems like the Batman game has some how delivered a whole new level of 'quality'. *Grabs pitchfork*: down with consoles!

Offtopic: I suspect that a lot of the big cool stuff we have seen in the battlefront promo footage is scripted: exactly how the cool stuff in the BF4 promo footage was scripted. I would wager the actual gameplay feels a LOT like BF4 just with starwars skins and sounds.

 

[Azix]

Why on earth would they do that? Is there a technical justification?

30fps hides bad code better. If you titan x could only manage 40fps, you won't know because its locked to 30.

All gameworks games come broken one way or the other. It is expected. Not sure how sensible it is for unreal to be integrating gameworks in the engine over open source alternatives.

 

[manimal]

At least Steam provides refunds now, so anyone who paid for the game can get a refund and wait to see if the game can be fixed.

I hope enough people do this and wait for a sale so the gaming companies see a reason to better optimize.


Peeps would rather see a delay when things dont work. Dont they have beta testers for a reason?



They of course will jump ship to the early payed release model where people pay for the privilege of playing unfinished games that will never in fact be finished.

 

[manimal]

Obviously the fact that you can turn off all the gamesworks effect and performance still sucks makes no difference to you because it doesn't fit with your close minded agenda.

They've basically released the game too early. Someones agreed to a deadline they couldn't meet and been too afraid to go back on it - probably due contractual penalty clauses and general bullying and threats. This is the result.

I own a 980 and two 970s so I am fairly open minded to NV. Marketing driving bus is the problem there not hardware.

 

[Headfoot]

I'm done buying games that are crippled to work on 360 and PS3. Getting it to work on the old consoles requires huge compromises and I'm just not going to pay money for games like that. Maybe $5 on steam sale.

 

[Silverforce11]

Offtopic: I suspect that a lot of the big cool stuff we have seen in the battlefront promo footage is scripted: exactly how the cool stuff in the BF4 promo footage was scripted. I would wager the actual gameplay feels a LOT like BF4 just with starwars skins and sounds.

I'm convinced its not just BF4 with Starwar skins cos these guys are locals here I trust:

http://games.on.net/2015/06/star-wars-battlefront-gameplay-impressions/

Not every cross platform devs fail hard on PC like these guys & Ubi.

 

[NTMBK]

I'm done buying games that are crippled to work on 360 and PS3. Getting it to work on the old consoles requires huge compromises and I'm just not going to pay money for games like that. Maybe $5 on steam sale.

What are you on about? Arkham Knight isn't coming to 360 or PS3.

 

[BigDaveX]

I'm done buying games that are crippled to work on 360 and PS3. Getting it to work on the old consoles requires huge compromises and I'm just not going to pay money for games like that.

This game wasn't released on any of the last-gen consoles though, it was made specifically for the PS4 and Xbox One.

In any case, between this and AssCreed: Unity, I think we can put to bed the theory that having x86-based consoles would make for less in the way of butchered Windows ports.

 

[Silverforce11]

In any case, between this and AssCreed: Unity, I think we can put to bed the theory that having x86-based consoles would make for less in the way of butchered Windows ports.

Why is it other cross-platform titles run fine on PC? There's a trend here. It's linked to these same group of developers who fail at console ports.

 

[exar333]

30 fps gives it a more cinematic feel... didn't you read the memo?

I totally missed it. 30fps is WAY to high, to get that 'real' cinematic feel it should really be capped at 24fps.

No one should need anything higher than 24fps anyways...

 

[exar333]

Yet another reason to wait a good month to play any game these days.

 

[NTMBK]

So Rocksteady and their "external PC development partner" are investigating... http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ating-batman-arkham-knight-performance-issues

Seriously, companies need to stop farming out their ports to 3rd rate studios. Especially if the game is launching day-and-date with the console version.

 

[exar333]

So Rocksteady and their "external PC development partner" are investigating... http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ating-batman-arkham-knight-performance-issues

Seriously, companies need to stop farming out their ports to 3rd rate studios. Especially if the game is launching day-and-date with the console version.

True.

Its especially embarrassing if you are bundling that title with the latest and greatest GPUs only for the experience to be terrible. Not a good first impression at all. Better late than buggy.

 

[thilanliyan]

So Rocksteady and their "external PC development partner" are investigating... http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ating-batman-arkham-knight-performance-issues

Seriously, companies need to stop farming out their ports to 3rd rate studios. Especially if the game is launching day-and-date with the console version.

Lol, they should have "investigated" BEFORE release...did they not test the games on a variety of cards? I really hope devs don't start to cripple the PC versions just so the consoles don't look bad.

 

[NTMBK]

Lol, they should have "investigated" BEFORE release...did they not test the games on a variety of cards? I really hope devs don't start to cripple the PC versions just so the consoles don't look bad.

I sincerely doubt this is intentional crippling. Sounds like a classic case of the real dev focusing on the console versions, and farming out the port to some cheap 3rd rate developer who don't know their way around the codebase and get access to code much later than the main dev team. (Same reason that Mac ports of Windows games often suck so much...)

 

[Squeetard]

GameBarelyWorks.

WB = Warn-a-Brother.

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-- stahlhart

 

[Deders]

I'm probably going to mostly be ignored under the slamming of gameworks, but I fired the game up expecting a whole slew of problems and was pleasantly surprised to find it playing like it should, Maxed out and Gameworks all enabled, very smoothly for the most part. I think there might be a ram issue but I expect a patch will sort that out. Able to fly around without issue, and drive with only occasional minor hitching.

Could it be that once again (watchdogs being the other notable example) my older hardware has emerged triumphant?

 

[thesmokingman]

Gameworks is a virus attacking gaming.

Warning issued for trolling.
-- stahlhart