Routers

[phillyman36]

Ok does anyone have this router?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16833127215

ive read some of the reviews on newegg but wanted to get someopinions from you all. As i understand it i dont really need the wan port to be 10/100/1000 right? i just need the lan ports to be 10/100/1000. What other products do you all consider to be quality and reliable?

how about these?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16833124084
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16833127060

My network devices are in the same room so i dont neccessarily need it to be wireless

 

[cmetz]

phillyman36, you're better off buying a good 10/100 router and a 10/100/1000 switch.

 

[JackMDS]

You need Giga in the Router if you run a local Giga Network, and even then you can use a regular Giga switch.

Regular Giga switches are usually better than the one in the Routers.

I do not know what you need from a Router.

If you do not have any special demands you do not have to spend $100 or more on a Router.

This one is a good Router.

Asus WL-520GU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16833320023

This is Just as Good as the more expensive Routers.

Zyxel 550 -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...181218&Tpk=zyxel%2b550

 

[phillyman36]

i posted this
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2183998&enterthread=y

basics are im streaming blu ray rips from my pc to ps3. If i connect my ethernet cable from ps3 to ehternet port(10/100/100) on my pc i can fast forward and go to 30 minutes in the movie with no problems.

if i attach it (ps3) to my linksys 54gs router and try to fast forward or go to 30 minutes into the film it lags or freezes.

So my router must be the weak link in streaming which is why i wanted a router with 10/100/100 lan ports. but what you all are saying is 10/100 and a switch should be fine or maybe a better router?

 

[JackMDS]

I am Not sure about the Blu-ray thingie. In my opinion some of the stuff that people are trying to do with Video streaming is Not yet prime time ready to begin with.

However when you are using the LAN for transfer you are Not using th Router per-se, you are using only the switch part of your Router.

So if you feel that Giga Network would help, make sure that the Computers and the Box can do Giga.

Buy this switch (or something similar) conncet ll the Giga capable components to it, and uplink the Switch to the Router's switch.

TrendNet Giga Switch - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817111480

 

[cmetz]

JackMDS,

>You need Giga in the Router if you run a local Giga Network, and even then you can use a regular Giga switch.

You need gigabit in the router if you require more than 100Mb/s of routing(*) performance. Otherwise, when you buy a "gigabit" SOHO router, you are really buying a router than can handle somewhere in the 10-100Mb/s range that has an integrated gigabit switch. If you don't mind two physical boxes, you can save a good bit of money by buying a quality 10/100 SOHO router, and connecting that to one of the ports on your 10/100/1000 switch. With current pricing, a SOHO router with an integrated 10/100/1000 switch still carries a bit of a price premium over two separate units, plus you have severely limited choices.

(* - when we're talking about SOHO usage, "routing" typically really means NAT firewalling between your LAN and your public Internet connection. We're not talking about devices that would even remotely qualify as gigabit in a carrier-class network!)

A common misconception here is that you need a "gigabit" SOHO router if you use gigabit on your internal network. This is a misconception that vendors are happy to profit from.

All that said, in the SOHO space, you can think of "gigabit" as meaning "more than 100Mb/s". In the USA, I don't think any SOHO folks have greater than FDX 100Mb/s Internet connections, but it's certainly on the horizon. If/when you get such a thing, you will need a gigabit link speed on the router's interfaces to support that connection. So, for example, in some future where you could get a 150Mb/s connection, you'd need a router that supported gigabit links on each end and at least 150Mb/s IMIX throughput.

phillyman36, you need a 10/100/1000 switch, even a 4-port will be fine. One port goes to your server, one to your PS3, one goes to your existing SOHO router.

 

[JackMDS]

cmetz you are absolute right it was poor choice of phrasing in my answer trying to explain the issue of why there is Giga Wireless Cable/DSL Routers.

I would even stretch the point further, in the few cases that I did try the so call ?Giga Routers?, I found that if (for the purpose of testing) I take all the Giga capable LAN devices and plug them into a standalone Giga switch (while everything else stay equal ) I get better Giga transfer.

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: phillyman36
Ok does anyone have this router?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16833127215

...how about these?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16833124084
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16833127060

My network devices are in the same room so i dont neccessarily need it to be wireless

The Linksys is expensive; not all that popular, and doesn't support DD-WRT (as do a few other Linksys, but none of the others here), so I wouldn't get it.

The DGL-4100 is very well regarded and a good buy at that price, but it's a bit dated now and its GbE switch doesn't support jumbo frames.

The DIR-655 is an update to the DLG-4x00 line, with new and better-performing underlying hardware and wireless. Its switch is said to support jumbo frames and use the same underlying chipset as several standalone GbE switches.

Problems with gigabit routers are that they tend to be somewhat overpriced because they're at the "premium" level of product in their category, and four ports sometimes become too few. Then you end up getting a larger gigabit switch in addition, and then the premium you paid on the router for gigabit becomes something of a waste. Now, I've had good experiences with a DGL-4x00 router as a router, so some of that "premium" is well-spent IMO for the feature set, stability and performance (if you need it).

All that said, there doesn't seem to be any specific reason for the OP to change his router, so adding in inexpensive GbE switch should get the job done at much lower cost.

 

[phillyman36]

Thanks alot for the info guys much appreciated