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Router for torrents?

lsv

lsv

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Hi there,

At the moment my crappy isp provided SMC modem/router combo cannot handle torrent connections. At all. Period. I have max connections set to 50 globally and my connection drops all the time. My older Linksys wrt54gc was no better with max connetions having to be set under 100~.

Can anyone recommend a router that can handle 500~ open connections plus whatever else without failing? I'll be disabling routing functions on the SMC piece of crap upon purchase.

Thanks
 
You really want to support up to 500 connections? How much bandwidth do you get from your ISP?

If you really need to handle that many (reliably), I would probably be recommending a Cisco 800-Series.
 
My net connection is 25mbit/1mbit and i may upgrade to the 50mbit/2mbit. What do you think about a Cisco WAP2000?
 
Or you could build a decent router that will handle that number of connections. Pfsense or Smoothwall. You can use older hardware and save a few bucks.
 
seepy83 - Ah so it is, I thought it had router capabilities too. Oops. And whoa are those expensive 🙂

Crispytreat - I thought about smoothwall in an old a64 I have lying around but it would cost too much to have it on all the time.

I think I'm going to go with the Linksys WRT610N. I'm hoping it can handle the torrent use I have.

Thanks for the help gents.
 
I'm currently using the 610n for one side of my home lan. It has torrents running 24/7, I've only rebooted it once in about 4 months. My torrent settings are max 1 download, 2 upload with a max of 4 upload slots per torrent. Max 36 connections and 18 peers per torrent. The up speed is limited to 256KB/Sec with unlimited downloads. I sustain the 256KB upload while downloading at 2+MB/Sec. I set the peers to disconnect after 180 sec with no traffic. There is simply no need to have hundreds of peers connected when only 3 are transferring anything usefull.
 
Pablito74 said:
I'm currently using the 610n for one side of my home lan. It has torrents running 24/7, I've only rebooted it once in about 4 months. My torrent settings are max 1 download, 2 upload with a max of 4 upload slots per torrent. Max 36 connections and 18 peers per torrent. The up speed is limited to 256KB/Sec with unlimited downloads. I sustain the 256KB upload while downloading at 2+MB/Sec. I set the peers to disconnect after 180 sec with no traffic. There is simply no need to have hundreds of peers connected when only 3 are transferring anything usefull.
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I totally forgot about lowering peer time out for no traffic. I have max 75 connections at the moment, 2 down, 1 up, 4 slots per upload and barely get 200k speeds... but you're right; why keep connections open if there's no data. Brilliant suggestion I can't wait to get home and try this out. I think I'm going to try your exact settings.

Thank you 🙂
 
im using a dlink dgl4300 and have max connections set to 600 in utorrent. i dont think ive ever used all 600 tho. max per torrent is 100. my internet is 12/2. it never crashes for me.
 
I use an old wrt54g:

Code: 
HAVE   DLOAD      RTDWN   ULOAD       RTUP   RATIO CONN  AVAIL  TR
 39.3%  11.65G   1.86MB/s   2.65G  12.22kB/s    0.09  819  99.9%  34
 
I would suggest one thing to consider with torrents, is the isp. I may have 1000 connections, it works for me. If a few of my neighbors do the same, the isp resources are used up and affect others. If the default settings for torrents weren't along the lines of use anything and everything for me, there might not have been any complaints by the isp's for torrents.

On a side note, my immature pride kicked in... The 610n was only rebooted because I messed up a routing/ip setting, which put it in conflict with my cisco 2800 running my home isp 😱. The cisco recovered fine, the linksys, it needed a reboot. In a normal network, it would not have been rebooted at all. I'm also running 1 wireless A, 2 wireless G, and xbox (with maxed "connection quality" while torrenting), and 3 workstations with up to 2 hi-def netflix streams going at the same time. Even with that, the isp side can send out to the internet at a sustained 700+KB/Sec. I'm fortunate to have 50/10 internet and static ip's, though.
 
ram on the router is the biggest problem. wrt610n has 128meg 600n has 64 meg. alot of current routers are like 16 or 32 meg.

if you want to do mad torrenting, build a linux box throw an old 512 meg stick of ram in it and let it do the routing, dns, nat. it will be faster. let a switch do the switching, and use your wireless router as an AP.

DD-wrt has alot of memory leaks still. 🙁
 
I'll list it again in this thread. It's probably one of the best consumer level and inexpensive routers.

Asus RT-N16 flashed with DD-WRT ~$90

- High performance CPU -- BCM4718 @ 533MHz
- 128MB DDR2 memory
- 32MB Flash memory
- Low power 65nm CMOS
- Supports up to 300,000 sessions for P2P exchange
- Two USB 2.0 ports for various devices
- Supports NTFS read/write
- 300Mbps Wireless-N support (only 2.4GHz though)
- Gigabit LAN ports
- Gigabit WAN port
- SMA antenna connectors if you want to upgrade antennas for longer range
 
I've never had a problem, and I'm behind *two* WRT54GLs. One is stock, one has openwrt.


ohh... googled a bit. looks like the 'GC is unrelated to the real WRT54x routers.
 
Get a used cisco pix515 on ebay, I saw them go for less than $200 these days.
You have to learn how to configure the pix, but you can have thousands of connections if you'd like.
 
I had this very same issue. Even when I got an upgraded router I would still lock it up due to number of connections.

Since I am in networking for work I invested in a Cisco 1812 ISR. Great router. I have up to 2800 dynamic nat translations up at a time. I have them set for a timeout of 1 minute.

No problems anymore.
 
Pablito74 said:
I set the peers to disconnect after 180 sec with no traffic. There is simply no need to have hundreds of peers connected when only 3 are transferring anything usefull.
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Pablito74, I use Azureus/Vuze and I can't find a setting like this. Can you give me any more details or point me to where I could find this in Azureus?
 
well you know there are only so many ports (1-65535) to use for NAT. take that out of the picture and you probably have a much more viable box. (run the bt client on the router aka a pc)
 
Well I don't know what level your at in knowledge but I assume your not a noob on the subject.

It's the upload rate that clogs up the router.Try limiting it to like 30 kbps for a 3 mb connection.It's the bandwidth constraints that's messing up your router.Unpluging the router for a minute will clear it.I have all my network stuff(modem,router,voip,etc) on a power strip and just cut the power for all of it when it clogs.
 
Usually maxing out connections/sessions lags out the router. It happens easily with torrents. The best thing to do is limit the torrent client to around 100 or 200 connections, setup QoS on the router, have the router kill dead connections after 120ms, and limit upload/download in the torrent client based on a schedule and 85% of the total internet speed.
 
jdjbuffalo said:
Pablito74, I use Azureus/Vuze and I can't find a setting like this. Can you give me any more details or point me to where I could find this in Azureus?
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One thing you may want to do is move away from Azureus/Vuze. If all your doing is torrents and don't want any of the crap thats been loaded into the client in the past year, UTorrent is much better. Theres no install required and it has a very small memory usage (unlike Vuze and its leaks).
 
RedChief said:
One thing you may want to do is move away from Azureus/Vuze. If all your doing is torrents and don't want any of the crap thats been loaded into the client in the past year, UTorrent is much better. Theres no install required and it has a very small memory usage (unlike Vuze and its leaks).
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Thanks for the advice.

I have been unhappy with the latest builds. I run a lot of torrents and Vuze seems to have issues with this.

Does UTorrent allow a lot of customization? There are several specialized things I've setup in Vuze, like only running from 12pm - 12am and prioritizing seeds.
 
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