both? I don't really care what people do with their bets but I'd never in my wildest dreams recommend martingaling.
I'll ditto that (speaking from a problem-gambler's prospective).
Roulette is fun, but the house has a distinct upper hand... hope you score with beginner's luck!
I played it trice, little win first time, little win second time, total loss the third time.
Roulette is really...not the game you want to play to make money.
However, if you really want to play, think about your max spending, buy a bottle of vodka and down it all, put down everything on one number, and walk away a loser or extremely (37x) rich.
Roulette is really...not the game you want to play to make money.
However, if you really want to play, think about your max spending, buy a bottle of vodka and down it all, put down everything on one number, and walk away a loser or extremely (37x) rich.
The only way to play roulette:
Take whatever money you are going to bet on the table, put it down on one number, if you win, walk away, if you lose, walk away.
I've seen it done, the guy just walk up to a table, put down a $100 chip on one number and it rolled. That dude took the money and walked straight out of the casino.
Take whatever money you are going to bet on the table, put it down on one number, if you win, walk away, if you lose, walk away.
I've seen it done, the guy just walk up to a table, put down a $100 chip on one number and it rolled. That dude took the money and walked straight out of the casino.
GagHalfrunt
Lifer
- Apr 19, 2001
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Congratulations, you're monumentally stupid and the casino managers love to see people like you coming. If you had half a clue you could find a way to lose that will at least get you comped. Instead you're choosing a method guaranteed to fail all the while thinking you're beating the system.
Any double-bet system only return the original bet if/when the bet hits. Bet 5, lose 5. Bet 10, win 10, you're up $5. Bet 5, lose. Bet 10, lose, bet 20, lose, bet 40, win. Your net gain? The original $5. But since you claim you only take $155 you're bet limited. You bet 5, lose. Bet 10, lose. Bet 20, lose. Bet 40, lose. Bet 80, lose. Whoops, you're out of money. You just lost that last $80 in a misguided attempt to gain $5. You know that they call people who risk $80 to win $5? YOU!!!
Do the math. It take 5 losing bets to squander your bankroll. The odds of losing 5 times in a row are 1 in 16. Every 16 times you start playing, you lose your entire roll once. The other 15 times you start from scratch you win $5. Still with me so far? Unlikely if you're dumb enough to try this in the first place, but I'll continue for the sake of those here who might think you're on to something. Play 16 times. The one time you lose you lose $155. The 15 times you win you win $75 total. Net loss: $80. That's actually being generous as the zeros drive down your odds another 4%.
Seriously, if you want to play a doubling system, notify the casino in advance. They'll send a limo to pick you up because your money is theirs and they know it.
Add NY NY to that list. They have single zero roulette.
If you want to increase your "chances" know the wheel. Dealers can have a tendency to get the ball into an area. Watch what comes up and see whats around it. For instance. 26 has 9 and 33 on each side of it (i believe). If a dealer is getting in that area you will see those 3 come up more often. Its a system with ZERO guarantees but can pay some dividends.
If you want to increase your "chances" know the wheel. Dealers can have a tendency to get the ball into an area. Watch what comes up and see whats around it. For instance. 26 has 9 and 33 on each side of it (i believe). If a dealer is getting in that area you will see those 3 come up more often. Its a system with ZERO guarantees but can pay some dividends.
Can I come gambling with you next time? PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE? What is the smartest bet on the floor, if there's such a thing?
GagHalfrunt
Lifer
- Apr 19, 2001
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No such thing if you play honestly. There are bets where you can lose more slowly than other bets, but there is not a single bet on the floor where the odds are in your favor and there's not a single system that can change that fact. If someone could devise a system to beat the casinos, don't you think they'd be using it to collect billions rather than selling it to imbeciles for $20 each? If you're going to step foot into a casino, you need to do it with the mindset that you're paying for an evening entertainment. It would cost $40 to go to the movies, $100 to go out to dinner, $200 for a ball game, etc. Say "I'm going to SPEND $100 here at the casino for some cheap entertainment" and it's fine if that's how you want to spend your entertainment dollar. If you walk in thinking that you're going to win because you're smart enough to beat the house you'd be a lot better off just mailing them a check instead. Anyone can win short term. One lucky pull, one lucky spin, one lucky hit on 15. But that's how casinos are designed to work, to let people win a little so they keep tossing money hoping to win a lot. The house starts with only a small edge, a couple of percent here, a single percentage point there. They make their money in volume. Three percent odds to the house don't seem like much, but it a casino in turning a billion dollars a year (and that's a tiny amount, the big ones do much more) 3% is THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS PROFIT. The more you play the more you lose and the more they win. Remember, if a way to beat the house existed the house would be out of business. Ever see the movie "Wargames"? Keep in mind the last words of Joshua the computer "The only winning move is not to play."
Best bet in a casino is to find a single-deck blackjack game (hard to find) and count as cards get turned over. Obviously you're not going to have a perfect count as people will bust, etc but most of the cards will get flipped at the end of the round and with a single deck you can count into it pretty well.
Sometimes these are the really cheap-o tables and other times they're the highest-limit tables. Depends I guess. I sat at a $10 face-down single-deck table in the Bahamas with $100 and after an hour or so I had more than $400. Not a huge amount of money but like was said before, for a night of entertainment I'll take $300
Sometimes these are the really cheap-o tables and other times they're the highest-limit tables. Depends I guess. I sat at a $10 face-down single-deck table in the Bahamas with $100 and after an hour or so I had more than $400. Not a huge amount of money but like was said before, for a night of entertainment I'll take $300
Congratulations, you're monumentally stupid and the casino managers love to see people like you coming. If you had half a clue you could find a way to lose that will at least get you comped. Instead you're choosing a method guaranteed to fail all the while thinking you're beating the system.
Any double-bet system only return the original bet if/when the bet hits. Bet 5, lose 5. Bet 10, win 10, you're up $5. Bet 5, lose. Bet 10, lose, bet 20, lose, bet 40, win. Your net gain? The original $5. But since you claim you only take $155 you're bet limited. You bet 5, lose. Bet 10, lose. Bet 20, lose. Bet 40, lose. Bet 80, lose. Whoops, you're out of money. You just lost that last $80 in a misguided attempt to gain $5. You know that they call people who risk $80 to win $5? YOU!!!
Do the math. It take 5 losing bets to squander your bankroll. The odds of losing 5 times in a row are 1 in 16. Every 16 times you start playing, you lose your entire roll once. The other 15 times you start from scratch you win $5. Still with me so far? Unlikely if you're dumb enough to try this in the first place, but I'll continue for the sake of those here who might think you're on to something. Play 16 times. The one time you lose you lose $155. The 15 times you win you win $75 total. Net loss: $80. That's actually being generous as the zeros drive down your odds another 4%.
Seriously, if you want to play a doubling system, notify the casino in advance. They'll send a limo to pick you up because your money is theirs and they know it.[/quote]
Congrats for being a jerk......It is called gambling and that is what he is doing....Sometime it works, sometime it doesn't but he is guaranteed to not loose more than $155.
Congrats for being a jerk......It is called gambling and that is what he is doing....Sometime it works, sometime it doesn't but he is guaranteed to not loose more than $155.[/quote]
Yes it's gambling but he's always going to lose. As a matter of fact his average will be a loss of $5 every time he sits down. No, he'll never lose more than the $155 he starts with but how could he? It's just a mathematically unsound way of playing. Not that any mode of casino gambling is mathematically sound, but some are certainly more advantageous than others and this definitely isn't one of them.
JEDI
Lifer
- Sep 25, 2001
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Roulette = ~5% house advantage
Blackjack = ~0.5% house advantage (.7% if dealer hits on soft 17. So find casinos where they dont-> Monte Carlo ($5 min), Mirage ($10min), Caesar's ($25min, but they do double deck which is good!))
Craps = 0.021% at 100x odds (only at Casino Royale). But at $2 min, you will be risking $200/number.
= 0.099% at 20x odds (Main Station + Sam's town). But $5 min = $100/number
= 0.184% at 10x odds. (various locations at $2 min, but Joker's Wild in Henderson has $0.50 min = $5/number)
Craps at Joker's Wild is best table game for low rollers (unless you can REALLY count cards).
Full pay Deuces Wild video poker (Sam's Town has a bank of them near the arcade on 1st floor) is 100.76% return. So you have a .76% ADVANTAGE! but that's assuming u have optimum strategy. And they have it in nickel varieties to boot. So max bet (and u should ALWAYS do max to get the Royal Flush bonus) = $0.25 per hand.
(There's also something called Sam's Dueces at Sam's Town = 101%! But i dont know the strategy for that.)
Blackjack = ~0.5% house advantage (.7% if dealer hits on soft 17. So find casinos where they dont-> Monte Carlo ($5 min), Mirage ($10min), Caesar's ($25min, but they do double deck which is good!))
Craps = 0.021% at 100x odds (only at Casino Royale). But at $2 min, you will be risking $200/number.
= 0.099% at 20x odds (Main Station + Sam's town). But $5 min = $100/number
= 0.184% at 10x odds. (various locations at $2 min, but Joker's Wild in Henderson has $0.50 min = $5/number)
Craps at Joker's Wild is best table game for low rollers (unless you can REALLY count cards).
Full pay Deuces Wild video poker (Sam's Town has a bank of them near the arcade on 1st floor) is 100.76% return. So you have a .76% ADVANTAGE! but that's assuming u have optimum strategy. And they have it in nickel varieties to boot. So max bet (and u should ALWAYS do max to get the Royal Flush bonus) = $0.25 per hand.
(There's also something called Sam's Dueces at Sam's Town = 101%! But i dont know the strategy for that.)
Kyteland
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WRONG!!! Certain duces wild poker have an optimal play expected value of ~101% If you had a computer with you or you were really good at memorizing rules, you could have a long term positive run on this game.
Overall video poker is your best bet in the casino if you have the patience to learn to play it right and know how to shop pay tables.
For length of play you either want to give PaiGow Poker (a table game) a try or 100 play Poker (a video poker game). Generally you can play for a very long time without losing much money on either of these games.
just go to the poker room. at least you have some control over your losses/winnings there.
good luck!
good luck!
When, playing roulette, you should watch the dealer when he spins the ball. Watch what number or area on the wheel, the ball passes as he begins to spin it. Then look where the ball lands. See what the distance is from the starting point to the ending point on the wheel. After doing this a few times you might see a pattern, and can then bet on numbers that are at a similar distance from where the spin begins. I tried this the last time I was in A.C and I discovered that the ball would land in the same area in the wheel as where the dealer started to spin it. You have to think that after a while of spinning a roulette ball, a dealer probably exerts the same amount of pressure on each spin, since he does this all the time. Of course this won't always work since there are times then the ball hits the wheel and pops up and goes to another section of the wheel. You should also pick a table where they don't spin the wheel too fast. Actually, the slower the wheel spins, the better. The faster the wheel spins, the more likely the ball will bounce around more once it drops and hits the number part of the wheel.
HomeBrewerDude
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last time i was in vegas, about 6 years ago, Binions had a 25cent table, with minimum bet = 1.50. It was great fun. In fact, I had just enough chips for 1 last bet before my wife and I had to go to the airport. So I loaded up 13 and I won! lol the dealer guy actually looked surprised.
When playing roulette, I always place a chip on the previous number hit. This seems to be a decent way to make a few chips now and again. If you walk around a casino and look at the play history on the roulette tables, you're more than likely to see a couple with repeating numbers back to back.
Just something I do regardless of my other bets on the roulette table. I prefer early morning $0.25, $0.50, or $1.00 roulette. The minimum bets are usually more than I'll pay once people start arriving at the casino.
Just something I do regardless of my other bets on the roulette table. I prefer early morning $0.25, $0.50, or $1.00 roulette. The minimum bets are usually more than I'll pay once people start arriving at the casino.
The best odds I've ever experienced were 3:1 odds on red/black on a Roulette table. Of course, I was 10 and at my camp Vegas night playing with fake money. Yep, don't overestimate the average counselors intelligence. That didn't stop our bunk from clearing the place out of money by the end of the night. For some reason, no one else caught on. Our prize: one trip into town for a pizza party.
BTW, I don't mean to crap (NPI) on your thread, but I find Craps to be a lot more fun and entertaining.
BTW, I don't mean to crap (NPI) on your thread, but I find Craps to be a lot more fun and entertaining.
JEDI
Lifer
- Sep 25, 2001
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um..you CANNOT use a computer while playing the games. You CANNOT sit at video poker and use a Palm Pilot. You are not allowed to use any computerized aid. (You can, however, have paper charts in front of you for any game.)
$20 will last longer at the nickel full pay dueces wild (max bet = $0.25/hand) than at the penny 100play (max bet = $5/hand) not only because it costs less, but FPDW has a higher return than ANY 100play machine in Vegas.
i love roulette. i usually have a set numbers that i play and place several chips on each. i've been pretty lucky with those numbers which netted me about $400 the last time.
i know roulette is one of the more riskier games but its fun watching the wheel turn and turn. maybe its some kind of hypnotizing device when you stare at it.
i know roulette is one of the more riskier games but its fun watching the wheel turn and turn. maybe its some kind of hypnotizing device when you stare at it.
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