roomate blame on me because his computer is slowing down

[Adul]

rotflmao


idiot is he

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Too bad he can't upgrade his PS since the 8200 uses the special dell-only molex connector.

Edit: his PS is probably around 300 since Dell rates theirs at the mean instead of the high.

Pentium 4 Dell Models that do not require a power supply adapter:

• Dell Dimension 4300, 4400, 8200

Do you clowns ever contribute any information that's actually useful?

Um actually I own a Dell 8200 with the special connector on it, I can take pictures of it if you so desire.

Thanks for pretending to know what you're talking about though, and making an ass out of yourself

It's not the extra connection you linked, it's actually wired to look EXACTLY like a standard ATX supply but it's wired differently, I can provide the correct pinout here if you wish:

Dell:

Color


Signal


Pin


Pin


Signal


Color

Gray


PS_On


11


1


+5v


Red

Black


Gnd


12


2


Gnd


Black

Black


Gnd


13


3


+5v


Red

Black


Gnd


14


4


Gnd


Black

White


?5v


15


5


Power_Good


Orange

Red


+5v


16


6


+5VSB (Standby)


Purple

Red


+5v


17


7


+12v


Yellow

Red


+5v


18


8


?12v


Blue

KEY (blank)


?


19


9


Gnd


Black

Red


+5v


20


10


Gnd


Black

------

ATX:

Color


Signal


Pin


Pin


Signal


Color

Orange*


+3.3V


11


1


+3.3V


Orange

Blue


?12V


12


2


+3.3V


Orange

Black


GND


13


3


GND


Black

Green


PS_On


14


4


+5V


Red

Black


GND


15


5


GND


Black

Black


GND


16


6


+5V


Red

Black


GND


17


7


GND


Black

White


?5V


18


8


Power_Good


Gray

Red


+5V


19


9


+5VSB (Standby)


Purple

Red


+5V


20


10


+12V


Yellow

-------------

"An even bigger crime than simply using nonstandard power connectors is that only the pinout is nonstandard; the connectors look like and are keyed the same as is dictated by true ATX. Therefore, nothing prevents you from plugging the Dell nonstandard power supply into a new industry-standard ATX motherboard you installed in your Dell case as an upgrade, or even plugging a new upgraded industry-standard ATX power supply into your existing Dell motherboard. But mixing either a new ATX board with the Dell supply or a new ATX supply with the existing Dell board is a recipe for silicon toast. How do you like your fried chips: medium or well-done?"

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Too bad he can't upgrade his PS since the 8200 uses the special dell-only molex connector.

Edit: his PS is probably around 300 since Dell rates theirs at the mean instead of the high.

Pentium 4 Dell Models that do not require a power supply adapter:

• Dell Dimension 4300, 4400, 8200

Do you clowns ever contribute any information that's actually useful?

Um actually I own a Dell 8200 with the special connector on it, I can take pictures of it if you so desire.

Thanks for pretending to know what you're talking about though, and making an ass out of yourself

It's not the extra connection you linked, it's actually wired to look EXACTLY like a standard ATX supply but it's wired differently, I can provide the correct pinout here if you wish:

Dell:

Color


Signal


Pin


Pin


Signal


Color

Gray


PS_On


11


1


+5v


Red

Black


Gnd


12


2


Gnd


Black

Black


Gnd


13


3


+5v


Red

Black


Gnd


14


4


Gnd


Black

White


?5v


15


5


Power_Good


Orange

Red


+5v


16


6


+5VSB (Standby)


Purple

Red


+5v


17


7


+12v


Yellow

Red


+5v


18


8


?12v


Blue

KEY (blank)


?


19


9


Gnd


Black

Red


+5v


20


10


Gnd


Black

------

ATX:

Color


Signal


Pin


Pin


Signal


Color

Orange*


+3.3V


11


1


+3.3V


Orange

Blue


?12V


12


2


+3.3V


Orange

Black


GND


13


3


GND


Black

Green


PS_On


14


4


+5V


Red

Black


GND


15


5


GND


Black

Black


GND


16


6


+5V


Red

Black


GND


17


7


GND


Black

White


?5V


18


8


Power_Good


Gray

Red


+5V


19


9


+5VSB (Standby)


Purple

Red


+5V


20


10


+12V


Yellow

-------------

"An even bigger crime than simply using nonstandard power connectors is that only the pinout is nonstandard; the connectors look like and are keyed the same as is dictated by true ATX. Therefore, nothing prevents you from plugging the Dell nonstandard power supply into a new industry-standard ATX motherboard you installed in your Dell case as an upgrade, or even plugging a new upgraded industry-standard ATX power supply into your existing Dell motherboard. But mixing either a new ATX board with the Dell supply or a new ATX supply with the existing Dell board is a recipe for silicon toast. How do you like your fried chips: medium or well-done?"

so if i plug a normal ATX PS in the dell 8200, it would fit but it won't work?

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Tell the knob to get a damn 400W PSU, they're only 50 bucks.

you can't get a good 400W psu for 50 bucks...

 

[slpaulson]

Tell him to get rid of all that spyware/adware he probably has...
And aren't Dell's 250W powersupplies pretty heavy duty?

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: toant103


so if i plug a normal ATX PS in the dell 8200, it would fit but it won't work?

Haha, it would fry the fvck out of your board.

 

[Platypus]

In defense of ornery, it seems the internet has conflicting opinions about the 8200. I think maybe there are different versions because the one I have definetly is non-standard and according to dell tier 3 support my model has the special dell one.

Perhaps there are different versions?


To the OP, get a voltmeter and test yourself, should take you 2 minutes max. Look at the pinout above.

 

[brownh2o]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: toant103


so if i plug a normal ATX PS in the dell 8200, it would fit but it won't work?

Haha, it would fry the fvck out of your board.

Seriously, with the number of possible revisions that Dell makes, combined with confusing information from Dell and third-party sites, I would take a voltmeter to the connecter rather than blindly guessing if it's OK to use regular ATX.

edit: f;b

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
In defense of ornery, it seems the internet has conflicting opinions about the 8200. I think maybe there are different versions because the one I have definetly is non-standard and according to dell tier 3 support my model has the special dell one.

Perhaps there are different versions?


To the OP, get a voltmeter and test yourself, should take you 2 minutes max. Look at the pinout above.

i'll just let him take care of it because i will get blame again.

 

[spanky]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Tell the knob to get a damn 400W PSU, they're only 50 bucks.

yeah, for a POS

my ass

that's $60 buddy.

 

[Injury]

you blame on roomate because his being an ass.

That all you do need to do to get him to shut.



Yes mocking you fun it is.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: spanky

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Tell the knob to get a damn 400W PSU, they're only 50 bucks.

yeah, for a POS

my ass

that's $60 buddy.

It was an estimate, buddy.

Stop splitting hairs, buddy.

Stfu, buddy.

Originally posted by: BW86

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Tell the knob to get a damn 400W PSU, they're only 50 bucks.

you can't get a good 400W psu for 50 bucks...

Did I ever say 'good'? No. It would serve its purpose. It's not gonna be gold plated, read your mind, and get you f*cking milk and cookies.

 

[Ornery]

Sorry Drew, I thought you were just being another Dell bashing bonehead. However, I'm not finding any controversial info about that power supply:

Dell Power Supply Selector

The optimal choice for your Dimension 8200

Check the Specs

• Compatibility: ATX (Rev. 2.03)
  M/B Connectors: 20-pin, P4
  See diagram

Dell's 250 watt power supply has been debated over and over.

• Most standard ATX power supplies will NOT fit into a 8200 without modifications. An ATX power supply has an ON/OFF switch and an 8200 does not. To use an ATX power supply, one would need to make modifications to the case. In some cases it was found that the power cord was also on the wrong side. For those who would like to cut a hole in the back of their case for the ON/OFF switch, a standard ATX power supply will work with no adapter or converter. Your computer will work fine.

Upgrading Dell 8200 Power supply

• Am upgrading my power supply in my dell Dimension 8200 so that i can upgrade my video card. It currently has 250W power supply. in discussing and e-mailing Dell, i was told that dell only went up to 250W on this model, and has nothing larger that they sell. However, they said that it was not a proprietary power supply, and i could buy one from another manufacturer.

Point is moot anyway, if the OP isn't going to touch it, and I wouldn't either.

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Sorry Drew, I thought you were just being another Dell bashing bonehead. However, I'm not finding any controversial info about that power supply:

Dell Power Supply Selector

The optimal choice for your Dimension 8200

Check the Specs

• Compatibility: ATX (Rev. 2.03)
  M/B Connectors: 20-pin, P4
  See diagram

Dell's 250 watt power supply has been debated over and over.

• Most standard ATX power supplies will NOT fit into a 8200 without modifications. An ATX power supply has an ON/OFF switch and an 8200 does not. To use an ATX power supply, one would need to make modifications to the case. In some cases it was found that the power cord was also on the wrong side. For those who would like to cut a hole in the back of their case for the ON/OFF switch, a standard ATX power supply will work with no adapter or converter. Your computer will work fine.

Upgrading Dell 8200 Power supply

• Am upgrading my power supply in my dell Dimension 8200 so that i can upgrade my video card. It currently has 250W power supply. in discussing and e-mailing Dell, i was told that dell only went up to 250W on this model, and has nothing larger that they sell. However, they said that it was not a proprietary power supply, and i could buy one from another manufacturer.

Point is moot anyway, if the OP isn't going to touch it, and I wouldn't either.

would you pay $399 or maybe $499 for a 2x dvd writer?

he paid Dell that much when it first came out.

wow.