Yeah burrowing money from the fed with interest is such a great idea. Its how you always stay in debt. Also im sure the small group private bankers who own the fed are always looking out in the best interest of America and not their own.
Who is borrowing from the Fed?
The Fed isn't private. Who else would manage the banking system? The government?
Yeah, sure, his positions don't matter? Please. He has made it quite clear who/what he believes in. None of it is that great.
Wow....talking about the fed yet you bring up slavery. If that is the only thing you can come up with then I won't even attempt to argue with you on the subject. Go away troll.
I have said it before and I will say it again. The people of America are far from being responsible enough, are way too greedy, and are much too willing to abuse and exploit such freedoms for self gain in order to handle the level of freedom that people like Ron Paul want. The system and the idea of true Libertarianism is fine. The people are not and they would abuse it until it collapses upon itself.
Just look around you. It doesn't take a lot of observation and objective problem solving skills to figure out that America cannot handle such a thing the way it is intended to be handled. The problem is not the government. The problem is the people.
Just look around you. It doesn't take a lot of observation and objective problem solving skills to figure out that America cannot handle such a thing the way it is intended to be handled. The problem is not the government. The problem is the people.
yllus
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Money isn't literally borrowed from the Federal Reserve. And the board that controls the Fed is arm's length from government for a reason, while still being held answerable to your elected representatives.
Ever thought about why every country in the First World uses a central banking system that's kept at arm's length? Consider the imperatives of your politicians - making constituents happy now and to hell with the consequences of their actions on the future. It's absolutely necessary to manage some aspects of a nation's fiscal policy using a long term view. It's not a perfect system, but it's demonstrably better than what you're likely proposing.
Throckmorton
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Look up his actual views and you'll see I'm right.
By the way, the "liberty" in your Barry Goldwater sig quote includes Jim Crow. You might want to look up Barry's views too.
bamacre
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Well, let's consider that, what 45%, of Americans support McCain. Toss in another 20% that support Hillary? A recent poll shows 35% of Americans believe the Earth was created in 6 days, 6 thousand years ago. How many people think Saddam was responsible for the 911 attacks? So, while I certainly would not say that RP supporters are the only smart people around, because some of them are idiots anyway, it does seem that a majority of people in the USA aren't playing with a full deck of cards.
Old points of view and faith are hard to break. a lot of people used to think the world was flat, it took a long time to get over that one.
Don't confuse faith with sanity. That's dismissing a lot of intelligent people that think that RP is loony.
I never said that, so stop putting words in peoples mouth. Or are you really that stupid? But then again you are the self proclaimed expert about everything, you couldn't possibly be that stupid.
Most people in America are absolutely apathetic about politics. Ask the average person in the midwest about politics, the common response is "I don't care about politics. Ron who?" Ask them about the score of the last MNF game: "Bears beat the Falcons 34-24."
8 out of 10 people would have that response. Like I said, until that game is off the air and riots are occuring, then people will start to care. The reason they don't, they are stuck in their bubble provided by the media. The media says Ron Paul is a loon. Hannity provides that, along with all the other neocons. Thats the real world for you.
I didn't say anything about RPB's being superior or smarter than the average person, all I said is people just don't care about politics at all at the moment. People who are passionate about politics are few and far between in most of the USA. The rest are apathetic or just neocon or liberal cheer leaders spewing off the same talking points we've heard for decades.
So you bitch about me putting words in your mouth, then say I am "self proclaimed" to be an expert on "everything". Wow, way to stick your foot in your mouth.
Please, your whole attitude smacks of "Come to Jesus, the savior" crap. Your last part is where you really lose it, treating people like they really can't tell the difference. RP was irrelevant and will stay irrelevant because many of his ideas were fringe and quite ridiculous.
It has nothing to do with apathy. There are far more than 3% of the population who aren't apathetic. They just knew a loon when they saw one.
You're assuming that his political philosophy is sound and would be carried out. That's the problem I had with him.
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