Ron Dayne is just as bad as ever.

[Kelemvor]

He was great at UW Madison. what he did after that, I couldn't care less. Rose Bowls are Great.

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: abc

Originally posted by: Soccer55
Dayne was great in college because he was a tank and he had speed. He just ran over everyone and when he created a hole, he was gone. He ended up smashing all sorts of NCAA and Big Ten records including Ricky Williams' NCAA career rushing yards record. When he got to the NFL, he showed up overweight and thought that he could move like Barry Sanders or Marshall Faulk instead of being the power running back that he was. I believe he actually led the Giants in some rushing categories in his rookie season.....it was all downhill from there though.

-Tom

nooo man... he did NOTHING for the Giants... he always got hit behind the line, at the line... he couldn't explode out of the gaps...

poor guy tried though... he cut his weight down, and it ended up as something he did at several training camps over the yrs.

his weight wasn't really the problem, he was not fat... he trimmed himself to try to give him an extra edge...

but he just doesn't prob. have enough fast twitch muscles to excel at the NFL level... he's not that talented.

The Giants had a need at RB that yr, and he was actually a 'safe' bet because he was so prolific in College... and the Giants braintrust knew he wasn't a speed kind of back, but the Giants weren't looking for a 'west coast' back, but a bruising, clock killing, possession back that wears the defense down...

Turned out this guy was tooo slow.

Look at the Jacobs guy drafted this yr by the Giants, 6'5"? 260 lbs? yet he looks faster than Dayne.

He had 770 rushing yds as a rookie. That was good for 2nd all-time on the Giants rookie rushing list and 3rd behind Mike Anderson and Jamal Lewis for NFL rookies that year (2000). I wouldn't say that Dayne's performance in 2000 (or 2001 for that matter when he put up 690 yds and 7 TD) was nothing. It's just that he didn't live up to the hype and expectations and it was all downhill from there.

-Tom

 

[abc]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: abc

Originally posted by: Soccer55
Dayne was great in college because he was a tank and he had speed. He just ran over everyone and when he created a hole, he was gone. He ended up smashing all sorts of NCAA and Big Ten records including Ricky Williams' NCAA career rushing yards record. When he got to the NFL, he showed up overweight and thought that he could move like Barry Sanders or Marshall Faulk instead of being the power running back that he was. I believe he actually led the Giants in some rushing categories in his rookie season.....it was all downhill from there though.

-Tom

nooo man... he did NOTHING for the Giants... he always got hit behind the line, at the line... he couldn't explode out of the gaps...

poor guy tried though... he cut his weight down, and it ended up as something he did at several training camps over the yrs.

his weight wasn't really the problem, he was not fat... he trimmed himself to try to give him an extra edge...

but he just doesn't prob. have enough fast twitch muscles to excel at the NFL level... he's not that talented.

The Giants had a need at RB that yr, and he was actually a 'safe' bet because he was so prolific in College... and the Giants braintrust knew he wasn't a speed kind of back, but the Giants weren't looking for a 'west coast' back, but a bruising, clock killing, possession back that wears the defense down...

Turned out this guy was tooo slow.

Look at the Jacobs guy drafted this yr by the Giants, 6'5"? 260 lbs? yet he looks faster than Dayne.

He had 770 rushing yds as a rookie. That was good for 2nd all-time on the Giants rookie rushing list and 3rd behind Mike Anderson and Jamal Lewis for NFL rookies that year (2000). I wouldn't say that Dayne's performance in 2000 (or 2001 for that matter when he put up 690 yds and 7 TD) was nothing. It's just that he didn't live up to the hype and expectations and it was all downhill from there.

-Tom

wasn't cuz that yr the giants had no one and he was an immediate starter? and his yds per carry sucked, and his longest batch of rushes were sad.

worse than hype, he's not a NFL caliber starting RB.

 

[watek]

he just needs another chance then he will shine!

 

[abc]

tyrone wheatley yes... not this dayne guy...

tw had some speed.. dayne, no...

 

[oboeguy]

Every time I see highlights of Shaun Alexander scoring multiple TDs a game I think of what might have been if the Giants drafted him instead (OTOH they'd have two butterfingered backs).

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: abc

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: abc

Originally posted by: Soccer55
Dayne was great in college because he was a tank and he had speed. He just ran over everyone and when he created a hole, he was gone. He ended up smashing all sorts of NCAA and Big Ten records including Ricky Williams' NCAA career rushing yards record. When he got to the NFL, he showed up overweight and thought that he could move like Barry Sanders or Marshall Faulk instead of being the power running back that he was. I believe he actually led the Giants in some rushing categories in his rookie season.....it was all downhill from there though.

-Tom

nooo man... he did NOTHING for the Giants... he always got hit behind the line, at the line... he couldn't explode out of the gaps...

poor guy tried though... he cut his weight down, and it ended up as something he did at several training camps over the yrs.

his weight wasn't really the problem, he was not fat... he trimmed himself to try to give him an extra edge...

but he just doesn't prob. have enough fast twitch muscles to excel at the NFL level... he's not that talented.

The Giants had a need at RB that yr, and he was actually a 'safe' bet because he was so prolific in College... and the Giants braintrust knew he wasn't a speed kind of back, but the Giants weren't looking for a 'west coast' back, but a bruising, clock killing, possession back that wears the defense down...

Turned out this guy was tooo slow.

Look at the Jacobs guy drafted this yr by the Giants, 6'5"? 260 lbs? yet he looks faster than Dayne.

He had 770 rushing yds as a rookie. That was good for 2nd all-time on the Giants rookie rushing list and 3rd behind Mike Anderson and Jamal Lewis for NFL rookies that year (2000). I wouldn't say that Dayne's performance in 2000 (or 2001 for that matter when he put up 690 yds and 7 TD) was nothing. It's just that he didn't live up to the hype and expectations and it was all downhill from there.

-Tom

wasn't cuz that yr the giants had no one and he was an immediate starter? and his yds per carry sucked, and his longest batch of rushes were sad.

worse than hype, he's not a NFL caliber starting RB.

IIRC, the Giants had Tiki Barber in 2000 and 2001. Tiki is no LT, but he's a solid starting RB. I think he and Dayne basically split starts in 2001, but in 2000, Barber started the majority of the games (I could be wrong about that). I agree though that Dayne's yds/carry was awful.

-Tom