Romney supporters, how do you respond to this?

DominionSeraph

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Why are you even baiting them? It's not like any of their deflections are going to be interesting.
 

SNC

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Like I've been saying all along;
1)He loves that his baby is all grown up and gone national. There isn't a ice cubes chance in Hell he will do anything to repeal it.
2)He will say whatever he needs to to get elected.
 

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Like I've been saying all along;
1)He loves that his baby is all grown up and gone national. There isn't a ice cubes chance in Hell he will do anything to repeal it.
2)He will say whatever he needs to to get elected.

Seems the same attitude the Obama has.

However, Obama did state that if he did not bring down the deficit; he did not deserve a second term.
 

SNC

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Seems the same attitude the Obama has.

However, Obama did state that if he did not bring down the deficit; he did not deserve a second term.

I could not agree more! But by making that argument you are saying, and agreeing with me, that Romney is no better then Obama.

Where is a REAL Conservative when you need one.
 
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Seems the same attitude the Obama has.

However, Obama did state that if he did not bring down the deficit; he did not deserve a second term.

You are too smart not to know the difference. It was clear from the interview clip where Obama made that statement that he was saying he probably wouldn't be re-elected if the deficit didn't come down, not that he wouldn't run. That does not come close to Romney's endless stream of direct reversals in position on nearly every issue of any consequence.
 

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You are too smart not to know the difference. It was clear from the interview clip where Obama made that statement that he was saying he probably wouldn't be re-elected if the deficit didn't come down, not that he wouldn't run. That does not come close to Romney's endless stream of direct reversals in position on nearly every issue of any consequence.

I have seen two clips;

He stated that if it did not come down; he did not deserve a second term.

Why is he running if he stated he did not deserve it?

Let the Dems nominate a person that does deserve to be president. He admitted that he does not.
 

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"Look, I am at the start of my administration. One nice thing about...uh, uh...the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable. Uhh, I have four years and (crosstalk - interviewer cuts in over him and tells him what to say next "and you will know quickly how people feel about what's happening" then allows Obama to continue) that's exactly right and and I think a year from now people are starting to see that we are making progress but there's still going to be some pain out there. If I don't have this done in three years then there is going to be a one term proposition."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-sta...conomy-will-be-fixed-or-he-one-term-president

The interviewer than changes the subject as he realizes Obama is digging himself into a terrible hole.

It is correct that he does not say he will not run. He does say his administration should be considered a one term administration if the people are not happy with the economy...at least in this clip. Apparently, he does not consider himself to be one of the American people.
 
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Can we even attempt to discuss the topic at hand? I find it fascinating there is evidence of Romney (fairly recently) suggesting that Romneycare become a national program. This is the first time I had ever seen that.
 

EagleKeeper

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Can we even attempt to discuss the topic at hand? I find it fascinating there is evidence of Romney (fairly recently) suggesting that Romneycare become a national program. This is the first time I had ever seen that.

Unable to watch youtube; but based on experience with in-laws from Mass; the impact of the system seems feasible.

How the edge cases are handled, I do not know (and hopefully will never be back in MA to need to know :p).

I know Mass did not attempt to make a big bureaucracy out of it and soak everyone that has any impact on health care with additional taxes.

MA also did not promise more than it knew it could deliver.
 

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Where is a REAL Conservative when you need one.

There are not any, at least not in politics. Nowadays the only way to get elected is to open Americas wallet to the welfare/warfare/wallfare (©'ing Wallfare) state.
 

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Can we even attempt to discuss the topic at hand? I find it fascinating there is evidence of Romney (fairly recently) suggesting that Romneycare become a national program. This is the first time I had ever seen that.

There is nothing but a blind youtube link. Blind youtube links without a synopsis are akin to posting nothing at all.
 

DominionSeraph

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However, Obama did state that if he did not bring down the deficit; he did not deserve a second term.

And EagleKeeper did state lies.

Was that the point you were trying to make? That nothing you say can be trusted to be anything other than self-serving falsehoods and should be thrown out like garbage?
 
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Obama said:
If I don't have this done in three years then there is going to be a one term proposition."

dictionary.com said:
prop·o·si·tion

&#8194; &#8194;/&#716;pr&#594;p&#601;&#712;z&#618;&#643;&#601;n/ http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.htmlShow Spelled[prop-uh-zish-uhn] http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.htmlShow IPA
noun 1. the act of offering or suggesting something to be considered, accepted, adopted, or done.

Seems pretty clear that Obama says he should only have one term. Things like this are what happens when they guy says his own words instead of those someone else wrote for him and put on a teleprompter. He is a good public reader, a bad public speaker.
 

EagleKeeper

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More like that both are politicians and Obama is as guilty if not more of flip flopping.

Of course I stated lies - those that do not want to hear them, read them or want to ignore the intentions will say so.

He has the track record to show that.

He stated outright that if he did not bring down the deficit; he does not deserve to be president for a second term.

Twist it any way you want; that is what he was stating.
Maybe Biden or Clinton should get the nomination; Obama has shown he does nto deserve it.
 
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Todd33

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Word games is what you guys have? No substance? No wonder the right is going to lose every national election for many years. Times are changing, you cannot win based solely on white people afraid of everything.
 

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Todd, you obviously have not been watching the dem's campaign ads if you think they are not using fear.