Roman Polanski's bid to drop sex case delayed

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Ah, so a 13 year old with beer deserves to get raped. I forgot.


He will get his. The guy in his cell will show him what rape is about.

Who said drunk 13 year old girls deserved to get raped?

Anyway, her parents and the home owner should have been legally bitch slapped for allowing a 13 year old to get so drunk she passed out.

Now, I know some of you are going to read that and think "Wow, Nik said 13 year old girls deserve to get raped!" but if you could just hold back on posting that kind of nonsense, that would be greeeaaaaaaaat. mkay?

might want to look a little more into it.

Polanski asked Geimer's mother if he could photograph the girl for the French edition of Vogue, which Polanski had been invited to guest-edit. Her mother allowed a private photo shoot. According to Geimer in a 2003 interview, "Everything was going fine; then he asked me to change, well, in front of him." She added, "It didn't feel right, and I didn't want to go back to the second shoot."

Geimer later agreed to a second session, which took place on March 10, 1977 at the Mulholland area home of actor Jack Nicholson in Los Angeles. "We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer says. "Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there." Geimer testified that Polanski performed oral sex on her, and vaginal and anal intercourse, after giving her a combination of champagne and quaaludes.[13] In the 2003 interview, Geimer says she resisted. "I said no several times, and then, well, gave up on that," she says.[14]


at 13 a child is easy to talk into things. add in the fact of his reputations (not to mention spiking her drink) leads to bad things.



no matter how you justify it. the bastard needs to be in jail. he got a 13 yr old drinking, drugged her and then raped her.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: torpid

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

"motion for new trial"

Owned :laugh:

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Are you really being an apologist for this scumbag?

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Ah, so a 13 year old with beer deserves to get raped. I forgot.


He will get his. The guy in his cell will show him what rape is about.

Who said drunk 13 year old girls deserved to get raped?

Anyway, her parents and the home owner should have been legally bitch slapped for allowing a 13 year old to get so drunk she passed out.

Now, I know some of you are going to read that and think "Wow, Nik said 13 year old girls deserve to get raped!" but if you could just hold back on posting that kind of nonsense, that would be greeeaaaaaaaat. mkay?

might want to look a little more into it.

Polanski asked Geimer's mother if he could photograph the girl for the French edition of Vogue, which Polanski had been invited to guest-edit. Her mother allowed a private photo shoot. According to Geimer in a 2003 interview, "Everything was going fine; then he asked me to change, well, in front of him." She added, "It didn't feel right, and I didn't want to go back to the second shoot."

Geimer later agreed to a second session, which took place on March 10, 1977 at the Mulholland area home of actor Jack Nicholson in Los Angeles. "We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer says. "Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there." Geimer testified that Polanski performed oral sex on her, and vaginal and anal intercourse, after giving her a combination of champagne and quaaludes.[13] In the 2003 interview, Geimer says she resisted. "I said no several times, and then, well, gave up on that," she says.[14]


at 13 a child is easy to talk into things. add in the fact of his reputations (not to mention spiking her drink) leads to bad things.



no matter how you justify it. the bastard needs to be in jail. he got a 13 yr old drinking, drugged her and then raped her.

I wasn't justifying or defending anything or anyone 😕

But good read, though. Mucho details filled in.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Double Jeopardy might not apply.... That is for if you were tried legitimately and found not guilty, you cannot be tried for the same charges.

They could probably charge him with something else... and try him.... in alot of cases some charges are "held back" just for that reason...

I know the term. I was being sarcastic.

It does apply because he has already been tried and a plea agreement was reached. 90 day psych evaluation. The reason he fled the country is that the highly unethical judge, despite the plea agreement and partial sentence completed, was going to impose another sentence on top of the one reached through a plea in order to save face. Even the prosecutor has admitted this was going to happen.

Double jeopardy does not only apply to being acquitted. It also applies to being convicted. You cannot be tried and convicted twice for the same crime. The only possible "retrial" would be for the sentencing.

Should there be another trial and another sentence beyond the one agreed to, he would be tried again after being convected, and a possible second punishment enacted. Both are forms of double jeopardy.

Even redoing the sentencing would likely be immediately struck down on appeal since there is clear evidence that the judge had agreed to a plea and begun executing the sentence.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Double Jeopardy might not apply.... That is for if you were tried legitimately and found not guilty, you cannot be tried for the same charges.

They could probably charge him with something else... and try him.... in alot of cases some charges are "held back" just for that reason...

I know the term. I was being sarcastic.

It does apply because he has already been tried and a plea agreement was reached. 90 day psych evaluation. The reason he fled the country is that the highly unethical judge, despite the plea agreement and partial sentence completed, was going to impose another sentence on top of the one reached through a plea in order to save face. Even the prosecutor has admitted this was going to happen.

Double jeopardy does not only apply to being acquitted. It also applies to being convicted. You cannot be tried and convicted twice for the same crime. The only possible "retrial" would be for the sentencing.

Should there be another trial and another sentence beyond the one agreed to, he would be tried again after being convected, and a possible second punishment enacted. Both are forms of double jeopardy.

Even redoing the sentencing would likely be immediately struck down on appeal since there is clear evidence that the judge had agreed to a plea and begun executing the sentence.

Why do you defend child drug/rape?

 

[DVad3r]

Sounds like a sham. I'm pretty sure this chick is trying to suck some money out of him anyway she can. And being tried for it the 2nd time? Come on now...

SHENS!

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: waggy
"We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer says. "Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there." Geimer testified that Polanski performed oral sex on her, and vaginal and anal intercourse, after giving her a combination of champagne and quaaludes.[13] In the 2003 interview, Geimer says she resisted. "I said no several times, and then, well, gave up on that," she says.[14]

Holy crap. Yeah, that's pretty nasty.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Are you really being an apologist for this scumbag?

No. He should have paid for the crime. The justice system screwed up royally and it would be highly unethical for him to be sentenced to jail for that particular crime. I wish he were rotting in jail due to a fair and reasonable trial. But he isn't, so as a person who believes in the law I have to be happy with the thought that he had a horrible life and probably is a miserable human being and not wish for illegal further imprisonment or punishment for this crime.

I do wonder why he wouldn't be prosecuted for fleeing the country, though.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Ah, so a 13 year old with beer deserves to get raped. I forgot.


He will get his. The guy in his cell will show him what rape is about.

Who said drunk 13 year old girls deserved to get raped?

Anyway, her parents and the home owner should have been legally bitch slapped for allowing a 13 year old to get so drunk she passed out.

Now, I know some of you are going to read that and think "Wow, Nik said 13 year old girls deserve to get raped!" but if you could just hold back on posting that kind of nonsense, that would be greeeaaaaaaaat. mkay?

might want to look a little more into it.

Polanski asked Geimer's mother if he could photograph the girl for the French edition of Vogue, which Polanski had been invited to guest-edit. Her mother allowed a private photo shoot. According to Geimer in a 2003 interview, "Everything was going fine; then he asked me to change, well, in front of him." She added, "It didn't feel right, and I didn't want to go back to the second shoot."

Geimer later agreed to a second session, which took place on March 10, 1977 at the Mulholland area home of actor Jack Nicholson in Los Angeles. "We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer says. "Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there." Geimer testified that Polanski performed oral sex on her, and vaginal and anal intercourse, after giving her a combination of champagne and quaaludes.[13] In the 2003 interview, Geimer says she resisted. "I said no several times, and then, well, gave up on that," she says.[14]


at 13 a child is easy to talk into things. add in the fact of his reputations (not to mention spiking her drink) leads to bad things.



no matter how you justify it. the bastard needs to be in jail. he got a 13 yr old drinking, drugged her and then raped her.

There is no better panty remover than Quaalude. You could talk Mother Teresa in to doing a lap dance with enough of it.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Double Jeopardy might not apply.... That is for if you were tried legitimately and found not guilty, you cannot be tried for the same charges.

They could probably charge him with something else... and try him.... in alot of cases some charges are "held back" just for that reason...

I know the term. I was being sarcastic.

It does apply because he has already been tried and a plea agreement was reached. 90 day psych evaluation. The reason he fled the country is that the highly unethical judge, despite the plea agreement and partial sentence completed, was going to impose another sentence on top of the one reached through a plea in order to save face. Even the prosecutor has admitted this was going to happen.

Double jeopardy does not only apply to being acquitted. It also applies to being convicted. You cannot be tried and convicted twice for the same crime. The only possible "retrial" would be for the sentencing.

Should there be another trial and another sentence beyond the one agreed to, he would be tried again after being convected, and a possible second punishment enacted. Both are forms of double jeopardy.

Even redoing the sentencing would likely be immediately struck down on appeal since there is clear evidence that the judge had agreed to a plea and begun executing the sentence.

Why do you defend child drug/rape?

I defend the law and the constitution. Whereas you appear to defend vigilante justice.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Are you really being an apologist for this scumbag?

Sounds like a lot of arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[DVad3r]

Btw, the chick made a public apology to him a long time ago. This is a very one sided story and post. From my sources, here are the facts:

He did have sex with an underage girl
She looked much older
Sex was pre-meditated
At the time Polanski was very famous in the States
There was an orgy at Jack Nicholsons house


Also I would like to add that what goes on in Hollywood is never normal.

/puff

 

[DVad3r]

Oh and from what I know he is still banned from the States, he couldn't even come and accept a Oscar that he'd won 😀

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Oh and from what I know he is still banned from the States, he couldn't even come and accept a Oscar that he'd won 😀

He's not banned from the States. I'm sure he would be welcomed with open arms. By arms I mean handcuffs.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Double Jeopardy might not apply.... That is for if you were tried legitimately and found not guilty, you cannot be tried for the same charges.

They could probably charge him with something else... and try him.... in alot of cases some charges are "held back" just for that reason...

I know the term. I was being sarcastic.

It does apply because he has already been tried and a plea agreement was reached. 90 day psych evaluation. The reason he fled the country is that the highly unethical judge, despite the plea agreement and partial sentence completed, was going to impose another sentence on top of the one reached through a plea in order to save face. Even the prosecutor has admitted this was going to happen.

Double jeopardy does not only apply to being acquitted. It also applies to being convicted. You cannot be tried and convicted twice for the same crime. The only possible "retrial" would be for the sentencing.

Should there be another trial and another sentence beyond the one agreed to, he would be tried again after being convected, and a possible second punishment enacted. Both are forms of double jeopardy.

Even redoing the sentencing would likely be immediately struck down on appeal since there is clear evidence that the judge had agreed to a plea and begun executing the sentence.

Why do you defend child drug/rape?

I defend the law and the constitution. Whereas you appear to defend vigilante justice.

Bahahaah! :laugh:

Justice will be done.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Oh and from what I know he is still banned from the States, he couldn't even come and accept a Oscar that he'd won 😀

He's not banned from the States. I'm sure he would be welcomed with open arms. By arms I mean handcuffs.

True dat yo!

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

I defend the law and the constitution. Whereas you appear to defend vigilante justice.

Bahahaah! :laugh:

Justice will be done.

Too late for that. He wouldn't return to the US if he were sentenced to jail time anyway. You are going to have to go to his country and beat him with a sack of oranges until he dies or something.

 

[13Gigatons]

The victim in the case, who is now 45, also has filed court papers calling for charges against Polanski to be dismissed.

Saying the publicity that surrounds the case is hurting her and her family, Samantha Geimer wrote that she would appear in court to seek the dismissal even if Polanski does not.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Double Jeopardy might not apply.... That is for if you were tried legitimately and found not guilty, you cannot be tried for the same charges.

They could probably charge him with something else... and try him.... in alot of cases some charges are "held back" just for that reason...

I know the term. I was being sarcastic.

It does apply because he has already been tried and a plea agreement was reached. 90 day psych evaluation. The reason he fled the country is that the highly unethical judge, despite the plea agreement and partial sentence completed, was going to impose another sentence on top of the one reached through a plea in order to save face. Even the prosecutor has admitted this was going to happen.

Double jeopardy does not only apply to being acquitted. It also applies to being convicted. You cannot be tried and convicted twice for the same crime. The only possible "retrial" would be for the sentencing.

Should there be another trial and another sentence beyond the one agreed to, he would be tried again after being convected, and a possible second punishment enacted. Both are forms of double jeopardy.

Even redoing the sentencing would likely be immediately struck down on appeal since there is clear evidence that the judge had agreed to a plea and begun executing the sentence.

Why do you defend child drug/rape?

I defend the law and the constitution. Whereas you appear to defend vigilante justice.

Have you ever read the constitution? If you have you will find that there is nothing prevent a judge from using his discretion in sentencing.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

The victim in the case, who is now 45, also has filed court papers calling for charges against Polanski to be dismissed.

Saying the publicity that surrounds the case is hurting her and her family, Samantha Geimer wrote that she would appear in court to seek the dismissal even if Polanski does not.

Wow you sir, are powerful.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

The victim in the case, who is now 45, also has filed court papers calling for charges against Polanski to be dismissed.

Saying the publicity that surrounds the case is hurting her and her family, Samantha Geimer wrote that she would appear in court to seek the dismissal even if Polanski does not.

do you know why she wants it dismissed? not because she feels he is innocent or shouldnt do any jail time. she is tired of the publicity whenever its in the news about him having a trial.

not that it matters. she really has no say in it. the fact the dirtbag pleaded GUILTY to it is all that matters.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

The victim in the case, who is now 45, also has filed court papers calling for charges against Polanski to be dismissed.

Saying the publicity that surrounds the case is hurting her and her family, Samantha Geimer wrote that she would appear in court to seek the dismissal even if Polanski does not.

do you know why she wants it dismissed? not because she feels he is innocent or shouldnt do any jail time. she is tired of the publicity whenever its in the news about him having a trial.

not that it matters. she really has no say in it. the fact the dirtbag pleaded GUILTY to it is all that matters.

Wrong sir, wrong. Learn to history from both sides.

 

[growled]

If you have enough money you can get away with nearly anything.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This guy needs to be imprisoned and raped.

His mother was killed and his father imprisoned in concentration camps by Nazis during the holocaust and his wife and unborn child along with several others were brutally murdered at his house by the Manson family. Is that good enough?

No. Show me where you get a "get out of jail free for rape" card because you had a hard life?

His get out of jail free card is due to serious, blatant misconduct by the judge that should have resulted in him being disbarred and possibly arrested.

That earns him a new trial.

His get out of jail free card is due to him fleeing the country and a miscarriage of justice in not being returned.

Wow, so people can be tried twice for the same crime now? I thought there was a term for that... let me see if I can think of it.

Double Jeopardy might not apply.... That is for if you were tried legitimately and found not guilty, you cannot be tried for the same charges.

They could probably charge him with something else... and try him.... in alot of cases some charges are "held back" just for that reason...

I know the term. I was being sarcastic.

It does apply because he has already been tried and a plea agreement was reached. 90 day psych evaluation. The reason he fled the country is that the highly unethical judge, despite the plea agreement and partial sentence completed, was going to impose another sentence on top of the one reached through a plea in order to save face. Even the prosecutor has admitted this was going to happen.

Double jeopardy does not only apply to being acquitted. It also applies to being convicted. You cannot be tried and convicted twice for the same crime. The only possible "retrial" would be for the sentencing.

Should there be another trial and another sentence beyond the one agreed to, he would be tried again after being convected, and a possible second punishment enacted. Both are forms of double jeopardy.

Even redoing the sentencing would likely be immediately struck down on appeal since there is clear evidence that the judge had agreed to a plea and begun executing the sentence.

Why do you defend child drug/rape?

I defend the law and the constitution. Whereas you appear to defend vigilante justice.

Have you ever read the constitution? If you have you will find that there is nothing prevent a judge from using his discretion in sentencing.

Have you ever read the constitution? There's a part about due process.