Roman Polanski arrested in Switzerland at U.S. request

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yllus

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Originally posted by: JS80
lol why am i not surprised the leftys here are defending this guy

99% of the time a comment like that is trite partisanship. This time it's accurate. I guess this Polanski the far left's "guy" and nothing as insignificant as admitted guilt is going to stand in their way.

Funny thing is, in the next thread the bunch of guys protesting this arrest are going to call for another rich old white guy's head and ask why the justice system doesn't apply to him.

Originally posted by: jpeyton
If your daughter/sister/mother insisted on dropping the charges, sure. Add to that the fact that this 13 year old was no stranger to alcohol, Quaaludes, or anal sex.

Truly the #1 class act of the AnandTech Forums.
 
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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Ah, I understand.
I'd be surprised if you understood the difference between your head and your ass, as I get the impression there likely isn't much of any to be found.

And now it's quite clear that you don't have any understanding of the law or its operation.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: yllus
99% of the time a comment like that is trite partisanship. This time it's accurate. I guess this Polanski the far left's "guy" and nothing as insignificant as admitted guilt is going to stand in their way.
I suppose anyone without the intersect to wrap their head around more than a few facts at at time is bound to come up with such idiotic conclusions. Anyway, you've inspired me to give such stupidity a try:

I guess anyone who thinks Polanski slipped away without consequence apparently doesn't consider his being unable to freely enjoy our great of nation over the past three decades as any loss, so you all obviously hate America.

Is that on the level of discussion you are looking for here?
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: conehead433
He should come back to the US and face the music. Spending the rest of his life in jail would probably be justice, regardless of what his victim thinks.

You are a worse criminal than he is for wanting that.You are a menace.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
And now it's quite clear that you don't have any understanding of the law or its operation.
Oh but I do, far more than you from what I can tell by the way you worship it like some mindless heathen groveling in front of a golden calf.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: yllus
99% of the time a comment like that is trite partisanship. This time it's accurate. I guess this Polanski the far left's "guy" and nothing as insignificant as admitted guilt is going to stand in their way.
I suppose anyone without the intersect to wrap their head around more than a few facts at at time is bound to come up with such idiotic conclusions. Anyway, you've inspired me to give such stupidity a try:

I guess anyone who thinks Polanski slipped away without consequence apparently doesn't consider his being unable to freely enjoy our great of nation over the past three decades as any loss, so you all obviously hate America.

Is that on the level of discussion you are looking for here?

Yes, how terrible. The poor man has had to subsist on European food, drink and lodging for thirty years. One can only wonder how he managed to stagger onwards.
 
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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
And now it's quite clear that you don't have any understanding of the law or its operation.
Oh but I do, far more than you from what I can tell by the way you worship it like some mindless heathen groveling in front of a golden calf.

No, it's quite clear that you are an anarchist and you have no idea about the legal process as a whole. Otherwise, you wouldn't have said the 'legally ignorant' things that you've said in this thread. You have, quite simply, shown a completely lack of understanding or knowledge of how our legal system works from a procedural standpoint.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Craig234

I disagree and view this as relvant to the moral issue.

That's nice, but irrelevant to the legal issue.

You sound like you are briniging an existing agenda and applying it. What does 'rich person' have to do with the point under discusion, thevicti's wishes?

If the issue were about his getting off because he's rich, we'd agree, he shouldn't.

Just because he's rich doesn't mean that's the issue. It's not in this discussion.

I'm *very* against the rich buying their own justice. Now let's talk about this case.

This is a huge part of the case. Polanski used his resources and wealth to evade justice. Most normal persons would not be able to evade justice in plain sight for so long.



The *prosecution* agreed that the 42 days he spent was adequate punishment. That's a pretty strong indication a case can be made that it was.

Serving the time the prosecution says is a fair sentence is a far cry from fleeing after serving no time.

As I said, it's a factor. Yes, there's a point to what you're saying as well - but it's a gray issue, not black and white. Was the judge being excessive going beyond the prosecution?

We can't let defendants decide they are and simply evade the system, but again it's a factor, and there are others.

What the prosecution decided is not the final answer. The prosecution could have said 1 day or 100000 days. You must wait until sentencing. In this case, the judge had discretion available against too lenient or too strict agreements between the prosecution and defense.

Also, he was sentenced to a psychiatric evaluation. That is a far cry from a complete sentence (not talking about only incarcerating him).

If the judge was excessive, then there are frameworks within the legal system to challenge it.

Yes, it is. The fact that you can't distinguish between Polanski and nazi war criminals from the holocaust indicates to me you are not reasonable and likely not rational.

There are many crimes with statutes of limitations and other lesser treatment, because not every criminal is a nazi leader, no matter how fun it is for you to play the Nazi card.

You make any discussion pointless with your obstinate absurdity.

It's not that difficult. People are routinely pursued for decades for their crimes, even when they were relatively peaceful after their sought-for actions. Except in this case Polanski is in a worse condition since he plead guilty and then fled.

You make any discussion pointless with your obstinate absurdity.

You seem locked on to one point of view, and are simply ignoring any other points about the case, it seems to me. Blinders on.

You've stated your points, I've listened and stated mine, I'm not seeing much more promising at this point.

But it seems to me that you have latched on to Polanski as some sort of poster child for you to get some cause you believe in furthered.

I guess this is a defense mechanism on your part when you realize how fucked up you are in your analysis of the situation.

Celebrities who develop a sense of entitlement and abuse others disgust me. Michael Vick is an example, I guess, and the consumers who support their getting off disgust me as well, just because the consumers want to see them play ball or whatever. If the question were Polanski evading justice for this when he did it, I'd be against it.

But justice does not seem served to me at this point on this for his criminal mistake over 30 years ago. But you are not seeming to response to my points much IMO.

You are locked in to one angle - he's a celebrity who cheated the system, so you want him punished, without regard for the various other factors that weigh on the situation.

You still just don't get it. Justice needs to be served for more than just his initial rape of the child. The situation has evolved much more than that.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: conehead433
He should come back to the US and face the music. Spending the rest of his life in jail would probably be justice, regardless of what his victim thinks.

You are a worse criminal than he is for wanting that.You are a menace.

How can you possibly say something so idiotically sophomoric as this? (1) He should come to the U.S. and "face the music" and apparently the Swiss authorities agree - that entire pleading guilty to the crime is sufficient evidence. (2) Spending his life in jail at his age for both raping a child and becoming a fugitive is probably reasonable (3) The State does, arguably more often than not, act on behalf regardless of what the victim thinks; therefore you non-thought-out point is irrelevant.

People that think as you do are the genuine menace.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
No, it's quite clear that you are an anarchist...
Only in your idolatrous delusions.

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Otherwise, you wouldn't have said the 'legally ignorant' things that you've said in this thread.
Please quote whatever comments of mine you have deluded yourself into believing you are referring to here so I can address this charge directly.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: yllus
99% of the time a comment like that is trite partisanship. This time it's accurate. I guess this Polanski the far left's "guy" and nothing as insignificant as admitted guilt is going to stand in their way.
I suppose anyone without the intersect to wrap their head around more than a few facts at at time is bound to come up with such idiotic conclusions. Anyway, you've inspired me to give such stupidity a try:

I guess anyone who thinks Polanski slipped away without consequence apparently doesn't consider his being unable to freely enjoy our great of nation over the past three decades as any loss, so you all obviously hate America.

Is that on the level of discussion you are looking for here?


I usually appreciate your post .. but not this one

IF he wouldn't have raped an American Child then maybe he could have stayed in this nation as a free man.. FWIW.. He wasn't even an American.. he was a frenchman who liked fucking our young girls ... and must have felt his status or something made him above the laws or appeals processes?
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: CanOWormsThis is a huge part of the case. Polanski used his resources and wealth to evade justice.
He bought a plane ticket to the country he was born in, which was not bound by treaty extradite him for the less than rape charge he was convicted of. You are all worked up over this because you are jealous of the fact that he had the resources and wealth to buy a fucking plane ticket? That is absolutely fucking pitiful.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: dahunan
I usually appreciate your post .. but not this one

IF he wouldn't have raped an American Child then maybe he could have stayed in this nation as a free man...
I wish you understood my post enough to realise this was exactly my point.

 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: CanOWormsThis is a huge part of the case. Polanski used his resources and wealth to evade justice.
He bought a plane ticket to the country he was born in, which was not bound by treaty extradite him for the less than rape charge he was convicted of. You are all worked up over this because you are jealous of the fact that he had the resources and wealth to buy a fucking plane ticket? That is absolutely fucking pitiful.

No, that is absolutely fucking pitiful. He shit upon the entire legal system.
 

alphatarget1

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Surprise! Rational French citizens do not agree with their elites. Liberals who are defending this have no brains, nor any shame.

"Few, if any, prominent figures came out publicly against Polanski, but there were signs that many ordinary French people disagreed with the government's position.

Many newspaper readers responded with angry comments on the newspapers' Web sites lashing out at France's government and cultural leaders. One comment in Le Figaro read: 'Our so-called intelligentsia lacks modesty, restraint and impartiality when one of its own has behaved badly.'"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...ce_protecting_polanski
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
No, that is absolutely fucking pitiful. He shit upon the entire legal system.
Only that legal system had been pissing all over him, and was shucking its shorts to drop a steaming load on top. But of course you are just too jealous of the man to even acknowledge anything like that, and you are perhaps the most bigoted against Europeans of anyone I have ever come across.
 
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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
No, it's quite clear that you are an anarchist...
Only in your idolatrous delusions.

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Otherwise, you wouldn't have said the 'legally ignorant' things that you've said in this thread.
Please quote whatever comments of mine you have deluded yourself into believing you are referring to here so I can address this charge directly.

Every single one of your posts is full of it. You are so deluded that you don't even realize it.

He never even exhausted the legal system. Instead, he decided that he was too special to face the law as the common man is expected to do.
 

FaaR

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Only that legal system had been pissing all over him, and was shucking its shorts to drop a steaming load on top. But of course you are just too jealous of the man to even acknowledge anything like that, and you are perhaps the most bigoted against Europeans of anyone I have ever come across.
Oh, so the child rapist is now the victim all of a sudden?

Wow, that's...rather original, akshually.

What happened to "taking responsibility to one's actions", huh? It doesn't apply all of a sudden if there's any inconsistencies in the court proceedings (which were in the process of being rectified I might add?)
 
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: CanOWormsThis is a huge part of the case. Polanski used his resources and wealth to evade justice.
He bought a plane ticket to the country he was born in, which was not bound by treaty extradite him for the less than rape charge he was convicted of. You are all worked up over this because you are jealous of the fact that he had the resources and wealth to buy a fucking plane ticket? That is absolutely fucking pitiful.

No, that is absolutely fucking pitiful. He shit upon the entire legal system.

The funny thing is that now he's caught by a country bound by a treaty and should be extradited to face proper legal proceedings for the crime that he has plead guilty to. However, as has been pointed out, people like kylebisme is an elitist and an anarchist, and feels that famous people should get away with crimes committed on lower class people.

He is a horrible human being.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
No, that is absolutely fucking pitiful. He shit upon the entire legal system.
Only that legal system had been pissing all over him, and was shucking its shorts to drop a steaming load on top. But of course you are just too jealous of the man to even acknowledge anything like that, and you are perhaps the most bigoted against Europeans of anyone I have ever come across.

As RabidMongoose just posted, he did not exhaust the legal system. He just decided that he was superior and would make his own rules in typical European fashion. News flash: Non-Europeans are humans, too.
 
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Originally posted by: FaaR
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Only that legal system had been pissing all over him, and was shucking its shorts to drop a steaming load on top. But of course you are just too jealous of the man to even acknowledge anything like that, and you are perhaps the most bigoted against Europeans of anyone I have ever come across.
Oh, so the child rapist is now the victim all of a sudden?

Wow, that's...rather original, akshually.

What happened to "taking responsibility to one's actions", huh? It doesn't apply all of a sudden if there's any inconsistencies in the court proceedings (which were in the process of being rectified I might add?)

Apparently if you feel that there is any 'inconsistency' in a court proceeding or you are scared that something will happen in the future, then you're free to completely ignore the legal system. That's what anarchists like kylebisme wants people to think. Or he wants the US to institute some sort of caste system now where the common man can be subject to the laws, but the upper castes are not.

My friends, we have found the most disgusting and vile human being on this forum.
 
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: yllus
99% of the time a comment like that is trite partisanship. This time it's accurate. I guess this Polanski the far left's "guy" and nothing as insignificant as admitted guilt is going to stand in their way.
I suppose anyone without the intersect to wrap their head around more than a few facts at at time is bound to come up with such idiotic conclusions. Anyway, you've inspired me to give such stupidity a try:

I guess anyone who thinks Polanski slipped away without consequence apparently doesn't consider his being unable to freely enjoy our great of nation over the past three decades as any loss, so you all obviously hate America.

Is that on the level of discussion you are looking for here?


I usually appreciate your post .. but not this one

IF he wouldn't have raped an American Child then maybe he could have stayed in this nation as a free man.. FWIW.. He wasn't even an American.. he was a frenchman who liked fucking our young girls ... and must have felt his status or something made him above the laws or appeals processes?

kylebisme doesn't believe that the laws and the appeals process applies to members of the upper caste.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Every single one of your posts is full of it.
If they were you would be able to quote some obvious examples, but they only exist in your imagination.

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
He never even exhausted the legal system.
Nor did I ever claim he did.

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Instead, he decided that he was too special to face the law as the common man is expected to do.
Oh, the envy has its grip. You would do yourself well to be more cautious of that, it is one of the deadly ones.
 
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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Every single one of your posts is full of it.
If they were you would be able to quote some obvious examples, but they only exist in your imagination.

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
He never even exhausted the legal system.
Nor did I ever claim he did.

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Instead, he decided that he was too special to face the law as the common man is expected to do.
Oh, the envy has its grip. You would do yourself well to more cautious of that, it is one of the deadly ones.

Oh, the hatred of the people has its grip. Your true intentions are now showing. You think that the upper caste should be able to rape and pillage the lower castes of society as you have officially deemed them.

Let me ask you - was this 13 year old girl that was raped a "lower caste" person in your twisted mind? Is that why it was OK to rape her?

Why do you feel that it was OK for him to flee to a country without a full extradition treaty with the US, but now that he's in a country with such a treaty that it's wrong? Hmmm...I guess it's b/c he's part of the upper caste.