He copped a plea so there was no trail. In essence he agreed he was guilty of rape but was hoping to get a lesser sentence with no jail time. Of course the judge decided this was not going to be the case near the end of the case and changed the deal. That is when he fled.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a...ve/polanskicover1.html
Just imagine if this was a Republican Senator who had been caught doing this. People would be screaming death penalty.
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Sounds like a media stunt more than anything else. I doubt the guy will serve more than 30 days in a country club prison, but he'll definitely be in every newspaper in the country because of this.
Does he have a new movie coming out or something?
Does he have a new movie coming out or something?
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I think they'd sentence him to a lot more than that. Just the charge of becoming a fugitive from justice after a felony conviction is likely to be a few years in prison. And that doesn't even address the amended sentence for the sex offense. I think he'd be lucky to get off with less than five years.
Go find it yourself. He performed oral sex on her, he screwed her vaginally and he screwed her anally. It's part of the testimony.
I wish the Swiss and US govts would show the same kind of effort to bust all of the tax cheats using Swiss banks that they do busting a fugitive over a 30 year old rape case.
Think about what you are saying here. Suppose someone admits to murdering your father then runs away. Are you saying that there is no victim because...the victim died a long time ago or that no one should prosecute if you've been born again and forgiven him? Is a bankrobber no longer a criminal if the bank he robbed has shut down?
Phillip Garridos kidnapped 11-year old Jaycee Dugard fathered children by her and kept them living in tents. She is now 28 and made no attempt to escape. Are you suggesting that whether or not he should be prosecuted is up to her and not society?
Garridos and Planski are both criminals...and the criminal justice system will deal with them
I'm not sure where you are going with this but California law does not (and did not in 1977) recognize the ability of a 13 year old girl to consent to sex with anyone. The current laws about unlawful sexual intercourse do provide for a lesser misdemeanor charge in cases involving two juveniles (between 14 and 18) but there is no such thing as consensual sex between a 13 year old and anyone.
It's up to his lawyers to pose those questions to to the court in Los Angeles. I suppose they could look for precedent in the many, many cases involving Nazi war criminals -- some of whom have been prosecuted in their 90s. I doubt though that they will find much to help his cause there.
It's hardly the only reason but I'll happily settle for that if you can't see any other.
They are only going to release a limited number of names of suspected tax cheats to the US govt, not all of them. And it has taken years to get any cooperation from Switzerland.
This seems like a poor use of resources for these reasons:
- The victim does not want this pursued
- He served 42 days which is the original sentence the defense and prosecution agreed on
- The lack of any further such crimes in over 3 decades
- Those factors combined with the time involved, his effective exile from the US and his reputation seems that the resources are better spent elsewhere.
- The victim does not want this pursued
- He served 42 days which is the original sentence the defense and prosecution agreed on
- The lack of any further such crimes in over 3 decades
- Those factors combined with the time involved, his effective exile from the US and his reputation seems that the resources are better spent elsewhere.
Oh, and lest we forget this damn case wouldn't be 30 years old if he wasn't a FUGITIVE who refused to face up to justice for those 30 years.
It's not a civil case.
The 42 days were for a psychiatric evaluation. He fled before sentencing. Defense/prosecution agreement isn't the necessary end, too.
He was a fugitive over the 3 decades. War criminals (especially Nazis) are also pursued after decades of no longer committing similar crimes they are sought for.
Those last factors seem like exactly why resources should be spent on this.
He needs to face some sort of legal responsibility.
I tried to clarify those points I made above as follows and once again:
{1. Not trying to equate them, only pointing out to you that your law is the law argument will put you on the side that treated underage lovers exactly like you want to treat Polanski. The law is the law so the two have to be treated equally.
2. Law looks more just to me when there is a victim seeking redress then when there is not. It still must seek redress, however, for the reasons you stated.
3. Swift justice is better than justice delayed. One virtue of justice delayed is that perhaps it discomforts those yet to be tried.
Again, why this piece of shit thought it was a good idea to rape that young girl is any bodies guess, beyond the obvious hate it shows for another human being. I don't think as a society we can except him for it because he is artistic, famous, and much time has passed. Those things just make the application of justice less clear cut, in my opinion. I still think it was right, in the long run, to grab him if they could. Just my opinion is all.}
So to your first point I prefer justice that is met out where there is a victim that wants it to be rather than to somebody the do not wish it to be. Such justice has less ambiguity and collateral cost in my opinion. It looks like all this is going to screw that girl, now a woman, all over again. We must have our pound of flesh.
To your second point, again, swift justice is better than justice delayed, but late is better than never.
To your last point, it is not the only reason but the only one suggested by alchemize with which I broadly agree.
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