Rollo's Doom3/6800NU/6800GT/GT@NU Benchmarks

[nRollo]

Added xFX 6800GT benchmarks.

 

[SickBeast]

Only 20% faster? That basically mirrors AnandTech's benchmarks, but I had never calculated the percent increase.

Nice job, Rollo. :beer:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Only 20% faster? That basically mirrors AnandTech's benchmarks, but I had never calculated the percent increase.

Nice job, Rollo. :beer:

Hey, I paid $400 for that 20%! 😉

Thanks Sickbeast.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Added xFX 6800GT benchmarks.

did you run aa on anything, or just 8xaf?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: Rollo
Added xFX 6800GT benchmarks.

did you run aa on anything, or just 8xaf?

I ran 4X on 10X7, and 2x and 4X on the 12X10 and 16X12, as noted. You must not have noticed in left column.

 

[Pete]

No need to apologize, Rollo. I was just wondering if you agreed with Kyle that AA mattered less than res.

 

[FluxCap]

You don't have everything on because you can't get those numbers with VSYNC on. 😉

 

[apoppin]

Just stopped in to say 'hi' , 'Rollo.

🙂

Nice benchs with your 6800s . . .

i also thought i'd post mine since you seemed "interested":

P4 2.80C @3.2Ghz
Ati Radeon 9800XT (stock speed; Overdrive is off)
1GB PC-3500 (2:3:3:7)

10x7 Hi Q 8AF/0AA everything 'on' (vsynch off)

1) 37.4 FPS
2) 41.5 FPS
3) 41.5 FPS


Same as above but with 2/AA

1) 32.5
2) 36.6
3) 36.5

Not "exactly" a slideshow. 😛

:roll:

i didn't bother to bench with a higher res or a lower IQ as this seems "just right" for 'playability' . . . i tend to use 2AA but haven't hit any slowdowns yet 2 hours into the game . . . i guess i really don't see much need for it (it is SO dark) and will gladly turn off AA if it becomes necessary 😉

i guess the only "problem" is that i am UNDERwhelmed with Doom iii Gameplay - OTOH, the graphics are superb!

 

[Rent]

My 58fps quoted above was wrong. Here's how my rig pans out.

16x12 0xAA/Ultra Quality - 70fps
16x12 2xAA/Ultra - 54.2fps
16x12 4xAA/Ultra - 36.2fps

Rig is in sig.

 

[nRollo]

I can't see how anyone can be "underwhelmed" by Doom 3.

This is the first game where people's faces look somewhat real, not like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. All the monsters I've seen are totally creepy. I like the radio chatter.
It's jarring when the lights go out. Even the slow zombies are pretty disgusting.

I think if you played the game in some fluid 16X12 High or Ultra Q, you'd have a different appreciation of just how far it's brought us forward in terms of graphics?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

i guess the only "problem" is that i am UNDERwhelmed with Doom iii Gameplay - OTOH, the graphics are superb!

Yet you think Thief 3 is awesome 😕

 

[Killrose]

How about running both cards with the same core/mem speed so we can see the difference the extra pipes on the GT make? Even if you have to downclock the GT I think it would be interesting.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: supafly
That makes me really glad I went with a 6800NU for my new system! Now I just gotta hurry up and wait for it...

6800 NU is no better than last gen cards in most cases, like 9800xt or 5950. While these cards are still ok for most games with med-high settings (heck, I'm still impressed with my almost 2 yr old 9700pro), they are having problems with newest games, and highest settings. So I would say it may be smarter to spend a little more and get something that will last.



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If you live in North Hollywood get adelphia NOW

 

[stardust]

:beer:

 

[CU]

After looking at the 6800NU at xbitlabs 2004 video card round up, I think it looks better than 9800XT and 5950 in most cases. The lack of video ram does start to hurt it at high res and AA though compared to the other two cards. But that is expected. I like the the 6800NU and may buy one soon.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo
I can't see how anyone can be "underwhelmed" by Doom 3.

This is the first game where people's faces look somewhat real, not like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. All the monsters I've seen are totally creepy. I like the radio chatter.
It's jarring when the lights go out. Even the slow zombies are pretty disgusting.

I think if you played the game in some fluid 16X12 High or Ultra Q, you'd have a different appreciation of just how far it's brought us forward in terms of graphics?

i am . . . i find the gameplay rather lacking . . .

even though the graphics are exceptional.

i hate the PDAs, the lack of a light attached to a weapon . . .

. . . to me there is NO atmosphere (compared with the mssterpiece of "atmosphere" - the 'Thief' series) except "shock" and "disgust" and it gets rather 'boring' very quickly. Plus it is so slow paced (admittedly Thief is slow but it is a SNeaKer and there are a LOT of interesting things happening all around).

The fault is neither my hardware - it plays GREAT - nor my expectations (i had NONE); it is just a very beautiful game with very average gameplay (IMO).

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

i guess the only "problem" is that i am UNDERwhelmed with Doom iii Gameplay - OTOH, the graphics are superb!

Yet you think Thief 3 is awesome 😕

Thief III has AWEsome gameplay and "average" but very good graphics. OTOH, Doom III has AWEsome Graphics and below average gameplay (IMO) . . . what is confusing about liking SUBSTANCE over "fluff"?

:roll:

Originally posted by: CU
After looking at the 6800NU at xbitlabs 2004 video card round up, I think it looks better than 9800XT and 5950 in most cases. The lack of video ram does start to hurt it at high res and AA though compared to the other two cards. But that is expected. I like the the 6800NU and may buy one soon.

IMO - while the 6800 is "disappointing" for a new NextGen card - Xbnit is being UNUSUALLY HARD on this card . . . for $300 it isn't "bad" (actually there is NOTHING else in it's price-range) . . . AND when the 256MB versions come out ~$340, the criticism should drop off. 😉

 

[GeneralGrievous]

Why buy a 6800 nu when the x800 Pro is going to drop in price when the x800 GT is released? Unless you play only doom 3 anyway. If you aren't playing Doom I'd personally wait until HL2 to upgrade.

AND when the 256MB versions come out ~$340, the criticism should drop off

Why bother with that when the GT is $400?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Why buy a 6800 nu when the x800 Pro is going to drop in price when the x800 GT is released? Unless you play only doom 3 anyway. If you aren't playing Doom I'd personally wait until HL2 to upgrade.

AND when the 256MB versions come out ~$340, the criticism should drop off

Why bother with that when the GT is $400?

i dunno . .. why?

I wouldn't and didn't since i can WAIT

HOWEVER - and i assume you were replying to me - IF someone wants a new card NOW, the 6800 is the only CURRENT choice (barring a 'miracle' in Hot Deals). 😉


Are you aware of ANY other choice in the $300 ($280-$320) range OTHER than the 6800Standard?
(TOday) 😉

 

[nRollo]

IMO - while the 6800 is "disappointing" for a new NextGen card - Xbnit is being UNUSUALLY HARD on this card . . . for $300 it isn't "bad" (actually there is NOTHING else in it's price-range) . . . AND when the 256MB versions come out ~$340, the criticism should drop off

The problem with this is that it's only "disappointing " compared to cards that cost $100-$200 more than it, that it was never meant to compete with.

The 6800NU is literally in a class by itself as there are no other cards at it's price point to compare it to.

The General likes to tell everyone to be patient and wait for some magic price break on $400 cards. Easy for him to say, he has one.

The guy with $300 who's getting a bad game experience in Doom3 is in a little different position.


If you have a 5900/9800Pro, you should be able to get $150 for it. Add $133 of your own to that and you've got a card that owns your old card and a copy of Far Cry. There's a big difference in coming up with $133 and $250 for some people, and people who live with their Dad's sometimes forget that.
*cough*General Grievous*cough*

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

IMO - while the 6800 is "disappointing" for a new NextGen card - Xbnit is being UNUSUALLY HARD on this card . . . for $300 it isn't "bad" (actually there is NOTHING else in it's price-range) . . . AND when the 256MB versions come out ~$340, the criticism should drop off

The problem with this is that it's only "disappointing " compared to cards that cost $100-$200 more than it, that it was never meant to compete with.

The 6800NU is literally in a class by itself as there are no other cards at it's price point to compare it to.

The General likes to tell everyone to be patient and wait for some magic price break on $400 cards. Easy for him to say, he has one.

The guy with $300 who's getting a bad game experience in Doom3 is in a little different position.


If you have a 5900/9800Pro, you should be able to get $150 for it. Add $133 of your own to that and you've got a card that owns your old card and a copy of Far Cry. There's a big difference in coming up with $133 and $250 for some people, and people who live with their Dad's sometimes forget that.
*cough*General Grievous*cough*

i think we discussed this already. 😉

:roll:

my disappointment in the 6800Standard was in comparing it with top cards of last-gen - although not as critical as X-bit seems to be. 😉

i absolutely agree that there is NO OTHER card at the $300 price point (now)

Personally i think IF you have a 9800Pro, you SHOULD wait - it is "good enough" (certainly for Doom III unless you have an LCD) until the prices stabilize and availability is no longer an issue . . .

. . . as for me - with a 9800XT, it looks like the next year will be OK for ANY 10x7 game and i will wait either until the next refresh or the next true gen (if their launches don't get screwed up)

BTW, enabling Overdrive (cooling my case further) got me a few extra FPS . . . so mid40s FPS at 10x7 and HiQ . . . good enuff. 🙂

 

[kyparrish]

I had a 9800pro and this was a nobrainer for me. I sold it on the FS/FT forum, and am going to order a 6800NU from evga.com. Within 3 months, I'm going to cough up another 100 bucks and step up to a GT. It's going to be like having 2 "OMGWTFIHAVETHEBESTCARDEVER" days in 1 year 😀

 

[RacerX]

my 'disappointing' 6800 runs the D3 demo1 benchmark at 83.1fps @ 1024 high detail. [sys specs in sig]

(double that of a certain 9800XT above) :roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: RacerX
my 'disappointing' 6800 runs the D3 demo1 benchmark at 83.1fps @ 1024 high detail. [sys specs in sig]

(double that of a certain 9800XT above) :roll:

Don't be silly RacerX. For $300 whole dollars, the 6800 should out perform last gen's best by 5X as much! And cook you breakfast! Not just any breakfast either- blueberry muffins with real butter, bacon, a Bellgian waffle with strawberries and whipped cream on top, coffee, and atall glass of fresh squeezed OJ.

It has to include Doom3 and HL2 in the box, no coupons!

Then, and only then, it MIGHT be an acceptable deal.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: RacerX
my 'disappointing' 6800 runs the D3 demo1 benchmark at 83.1fps @ 1024 high detail. [sys specs in sig]

(double that of a certain 9800XT above) :roll:

Ok, so tell me. Are you lying about that number? If not, how in the hell did you get so high? I tested also with demo1, and at the same settings got only 55.6fps compared to your 83.1. Going by the specs in your sig, I have my A64 running 2.5GHz faster than you, plus I have an extra 512MB of RAM over you. Doesn't make any sense.

 

[RacerX]

Why would I lie? Look at my signature ... this is the Chaintech card w/ 2.2ns ram (for $286 Rollo not 300).
it runs at 400/900 and has a much better hsf than either of the two GT's I owned previously.
Actually I was going to say I think your benchmarks are off. Just for a point of reference, what are you getting in 3dMark03? I am getting ~10,000 (and 56,970 in Aquamark).