Rollo's 6800NU SLI Benches

[nRollo]

rBV5:

This is my "6800NU SLI benchmarks thread" , not my "nV43/41 PVP examination" thread.

You must be confused, this thread is about gaming benchmarks, and I hardly feel my mentioning the nV41 has hardware acceleration of WMV9 as a checkbox feature merits sinking this perfectly good thread into another morass like the PVP threads.

If 6800NU SLI gaming perfomance is of no interest to you, you really have no reason to be in this thread. It does interest some people as 6800NU SLI is price positioned exactly halfway between a 6600GT SLI rig and a 6800GT SLI rig.

I'd be happy to discuss the PVP in all my nVidia cards (nV40, nV41, nV43) when MS releases their .dll and I can actually test it.

Until then it's a moot point, speculation.

My last post on the subject in this thread, there are plenty of PVP threads for you to post your thoughts on ATIs methods in.

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: Rollo
rBV5:

This is my "6800NU SLI benchmarks thread" , not my "nV43/41 PVP examination" thread.

You must be confused, this thread is about gaming benchmarks, and I hardly feel my mentioning the nV41 has hardware acceleration of WMV9 as a checkbox feature merits sinking this perfectly good thread into another morass like the PVP threads.

If 6800NU SLI gaming perfomance is of no interest to you, you really have no reason to be in this thread. It does interest some people as 6800NU SLI is price positioned exactly halfway between a 6600GT SLI rig and a 6800GT SLI rig.

I'd be happy to discuss the PVP in all my nVidia cards (nV40, nV41, nV43) when MS releases their .dll and I can actually test it.

Until then it's a moot point, speculation.

My last post on the subject in this thread, there are plenty of PVP threads for you to post your thoughts on ATIs methods in.

Well said Rollo. Thanks for the benchies, I am debating reccomending a setup like this for my brother. At the moment I am "on the fence" and deciding between a cheaper 6600GT single solution (go SLI later) or a more powerful singl 6800nu (again, SLI later). This gives me something else to add to my deciding factors. Thanks!

-spike

 

[CU]

Originally posted by: Rollo

I'd like to know that as well.

Thought I was doing the board a favor, spending $480 and some time to provide benches on a card setup no one on the web is reviewing, and I'm fighting same tired old "Ford vs Chevy" argument these always devolve into.

I suppose it can't be avoided.

This not like that. Everyone knows Chevy is better. Anyway I realy like your posts.

P.S. Like a rock.

 

[James3shin]

mmm...nice scores, and i wouldn't say chevy is better then ford, in terms of trucks. In terms of sports cars, i'd have to say the c6 is the winner.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Any high res benchies Rollo buddy? 😀

Sure thing Ben, in the OP.

 

[MisterChief]

😀:thumbsup:

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: CU

Originally posted by: Rollo

I'd like to know that as well.

Thought I was doing the board a favor, spending $480 and some time to provide benches on a card setup no one on the web is reviewing, and I'm fighting same tired old "Ford vs Chevy" argument these always devolve into.

I suppose it can't be avoided.

This not like that. Everyone knows Chevy is better. Anyway I realy like your posts.

P.S. Like a rock.

My Taurus wagon owns you!
😀

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Rollo
rBV5:
This is my "6800NU SLI benchmarks thread" , not my "nV43/41 PVP examination" thread.

True, althought when you post such blatant, outright mis-representation and/or ignorance of the facts, you can't seriously expect not to be called on it and corrected. IOW - portions of what you posted were trolling and/or flamebait, and you knew that beforehand.

If you wanted the thread to be purely about performance benchmarks, then perhaps you should have stuck to only those, instead of diverging into an area where your comments (seemingly oblivious to the actual facts) lack any sort of credibility.
I noticed that you back-tracked, after (blatantly erronously) claiming that the ATI card had no WMV9 decode acceleration ability, and then claimed your comment was about "dedicated hardware" decoding - when ATI never (to my knowledge) advertised such a thing, certainly not in the same manner that NV repeatedly touted their "22 million transistors" of "dedicated PVP hardware" power, and then we found out that it was DOA. (At least, that's what I'm assuming, since there still isn't any provable signs of life out of it.) Btw, the "issues" in the PVP thread, were not specifically about the technical means that NV was using to accerate DVD playback, but that they were using that other technology that they had been developing, to cover up for the 22 million transistor "lemon" that they had sold to their customers, as part of their $400 video-card purchase. That was the issue. If NV had outright come out and said that they were sorry, the PVP wasn't working as advertised, but they were working on an alternative technical solution in place of that, then perhaps there wouldn't have been as much concern. But when you heavily pimp a particular feature, and then it turns out to be a total and completely useless flop, then ... people tend to be a bit disappointed in that, don't you think?

Originally posted by: Rollo
You must be confused, this thread is about gaming benchmarks, and I hardly feel my mentioning the nV41 has hardware acceleration of WMV9 as a checkbox feature merits sinking this perfectly good thread into another morass like the PVP threads.

If that's true, and I have my strong personal reservations about that, then: 1) You should have stuck to gaming benchmarks, and not brought up video-processing, since that has very nearly nothing to do with games (save for the occasional FMV cut-scene which isn't even performance-sensitive anyways), 2) not made outright blatantly-incorrect comments about the features of a (competitor's) video card that wasn't even being benchmarked, especially in an area of functionality that you all too well know is contentious around these parts. IOW, you likely knew exactly what you were doing, you meant to stir up a commotion in your thread about this.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Ah well, interesting that you edited your first post in this thread, just as I was posting this. Feel free to re-write things as much as you want, I've said my piece in this thread I guess.

Edited: 03/05/2005 at 02:04 AM by Rollo

Edit: That may have been edited in response to Rollo's reply to Ben's post, above, which appeared after I posted, nevermind.

 

[Pete]

The PCIe 6800 uses the NV41, which I'm almost positive is a native 12-pipe card. It's probably almost identical to the 450MHz NV42M used in that new Dell gaming laptop.

 

[rbV5]

rBV5:

This is my "6800NU SLI benchmarks thread" , not my "nV43/41 PVP examination" thread.

Gimme a break...you bring up the PVP in almost every thread you start. If you want it about SLI benchmarks, then stick to the topic. You misrepresent both Nvidias and ATI's features, and I'm simply pointing it out.

If 6800NU SLI gaming perfomance is of no interest to you, you really have no reason to be in this thread. It does interest some people as 6800NU SLI is price positioned exactly halfway between a 6600GT SLI rig and a 6800GT SLI rig.

I'd be happy to discuss the PVP in all my nVidia cards (nV40, nV41, nV43) when MS releases their .dll and I can actually test it.

Until then it's a moot point, speculation.

My last post on the subject in this thread, there are plenty of PVP threads for you to post your thoughts on ATIs methods in.

.

The reason I read the thread is because the topic interests me. You're the one that brings up the PVP and misrepresents its functionality, if you don't want to defend a position you obviously know little about, why bring it up in the first place?

As far as I'm concerned, you bring it up in your thread...it becomes on-topic and I'll discuss it. You don't like it...too damn bad.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
For reasons unknown, I thought this thread was about video processing, even though the title is "Rollo's 6800NU SLI benches" and that is what is being discussed.

Corrected.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5
For reasons unknown, I thought this thread was about video processing, even though the title is "Rollo's 6800NU SLI benches" and that is what is being discussed.

Corrected!
😉

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5
For reasons unknown, I thought this thread was about video processing, even though the title is "Rollo's 6800NU SLI benches" and that is what is being discussed.

Corrected!
😉

I see your word is good as your understanding of the finer points of video processing.

Originally posted by: Rollo

My last post on the subject in this thread, there are plenty of PVP threads for you to post your thoughts on ATIs methods in.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5
For reasons unknown, I thought this thread was about video processing, even though the title is "Rollo's 6800NU SLI benches" and that is what is being discussed

Corrected!

😉:beer:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: CU

Originally posted by: Rollo

I'd like to know that as well.

Thought I was doing the board a favor, spending $480 and some time to provide benches on a card setup no one on the web is reviewing, and I'm fighting same tired old "Ford vs Chevy" argument these always devolve into.

I suppose it can't be avoided.

This not like that. Everyone knows Chevy is better. Anyway I realy like your posts.

P.S. Like a rock.

I drive a 2002 Silverado 4WD, but liked the F250 I had before it as well. 🙂

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5
For reasons unknown, I thought this thread was about video processing, even though the title is "Rollo's 6800NU SLI benches" and that is what is being discussed

Corrected!

😉:beer:

My only real issue is that when you tout the "working" PVP on models like 6600 and PCIe 6800 cards before the features have been enabled, someone is going to believe it to be true and buy it on the assumption that it indeed works...when in fact it works no differently than the "broken" 6800 cards.

I think its irresponsible, even more so than when I purchased my card back in July because back then no one was telling us there was problems. Make no mistake, there are problems....its been months since Purevideo was launched, which came several months after the card launch itself. There is still no patch from Microsoft, and no other codecs supported like MPEG4 or Divx.

I think its only fair to warn buyers about the issues surrounding purevideo so that they can make an informed decision...unlike the opportunity I had. It's misleading when you simply Parrot Nvidias marketspeak, since you make it sound like it is infact working. It may very well...soon...and I hope so, but it is still MIA, thats the fact.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5
For reasons unknown, I thought this thread was about video processing, even though the title is "Rollo's 6800NU SLI benches" and that is what is being discussed

Corrected!

😉:beer:

My only real issue is that when you tout the "working" PVP on models like 6600 and PCIe 6800 cards before the features have been enabled, someone is going to believe it to be true and buy it on the assumption that it indeed works...when in fact it works no differently than the "broken" 6800 cards.

I think its irresponsible, even more so than when I purchased my card back in July because back then no one was telling us there was problems. Make no mistake, there are problems....its been months since Purevideo was launched, which came several months after the card launch itself. There is still no patch from Microsoft, and no other codecs supported like MPEG4 or Divx.

I think its only fair to warn buyers about the issues surrounding purevideo so that they can make an informed decision...unlike the opportunity I had. It's misleading when you simply Parrot Nvidias marketspeak, since you make it sound like it is infact working. It may very well...soon...and I hope so, but it is still MIA, thats the fact.

I agree with all of the above, with the exception of me being a "parrot".

I don't mean to mislead anyone into buying a 6600GT/6800NU set and think that they will get WMV9 acceleration out of the box, because they won't.

It's my understand that this functionality will be enabled when MS releases the mystery .dll. Time will tell, I'm guessing nVidia wouldn't post on their website that the nV41-nV43 have this functionality built into the PVP if they did not after the uproar over their original error with the nV40.

 

[James3shin]

that sure is alot resolution for HL2 😱

 

[rbV5]

I agree with all of the above, with the exception of me being a "parrot".

I don't mean to mislead anyone into buying a 6600GT/6800NU set and think that they will get WMV9 acceleration out of the box, because they won't.

It's my understand that this functionality will be enabled when MS releases the mystery .dll. Time will tell, I'm guessing nVidia wouldn't post on their website that the nV41-nV43 have this functionality built into the PVP if they did not after the uproar over their original error with the nV40.
.

Parrot was perhaps a bit over the top..sorry.

I think thats probably right. However, I will say that I've been hearing about MS's dll for well over a year now though so, who knows?

Oh, and nice job on the benches btw, I am interested in the SLI tech, and I've seen very little using 6800nu, (that IS why I started reading the thread in the first place), and virtually nothing from a user untill your thread, so nice work🙂

 

[housecat]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: CU

Originally posted by: Rollo

I'd like to know that as well.

Thought I was doing the board a favor, spending $480 and some time to provide benches on a card setup no one on the web is reviewing, and I'm fighting same tired old "Ford vs Chevy" argument these always devolve into.

I suppose it can't be avoided.

This not like that. Everyone knows Chevy is better. Anyway I realy like your posts.

P.S. Like a rock.

I drive a 2002 Silverado 4WD, but liked the F250 I had before it as well. 🙂

Chevy.
Best.
Trucks.
Ever.

My family has been using them for our excavating business since the 40s.
Duramax diesel w/ Allison tranny.. the real deal right there.. and doesnt wake up the family when you start it. 😉

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

I agree with all of the above, with the exception of me being a "parrot".

I don't mean to mislead anyone into buying a 6600GT/6800NU set and think that they will get WMV9 acceleration out of the box, because they won't.

It's my understand that this functionality will be enabled when MS releases the mystery .dll. Time will tell, I'm guessing nVidia wouldn't post on their website that the nV41-nV43 have this functionality built into the PVP if they did not after the uproar over their original error with the nV40.
.

Parrot was perhaps a bit over the top..sorry.

I think thats probably right. However, I will say that I've been hearing about MS's dll for well over a year now though so, who knows?

Oh, and nice job on the benches btw, I am interested in the SLI tech, and I've seen very little using 6800nu, (that IS why I started reading the thread in the first place), and virtually nothing from a user untill your thread, so nice work🙂

Thanks rbV5, no problem.

 

[bluemaverick]

So, what is the final result? How much better is the 6800NU Sli compare to 6600GT Sli? Does it worth the upgrade now? I am using Dual MSI 6600GT right now, just may go to single 6800NU now as someon want to buy my Dual 6600GT and I can buy the 2nd 6800NU in about a month.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: bluemaverick
So, what is the final result? How much better is the 6800NU Sli compare to 6600GT Sli? Does it worth the upgrade now? I am using Dual MSI 6600GT right now, just may go to single 6800NU now as someon want to buy my Dual 6600GT and I can buy the 2nd 6800NU in about a month.

Actually, I just received a 6800GT SLI set, and will soon be posting a 6600GT vs 6800NU vs 6800GT SLI mega review.

If you need some answers right now, you could compare what I did with the 6600GTs to this thread, I would say it's worth it because it gives you a SOLID 12X10 4X8X, and 16X12 4X8X. For me, 12X102X8X was sometimes necessary on the 6600GTs and 16X12 4X8X was out of the question.

My 6600GT SLI benches

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: bluemaverick
So, what is the final result? How much better is the 6800NU Sli compare to 6600GT Sli? Does it worth the upgrade now? I am using Dual MSI 6600GT right now, just may go to single 6800NU now as someon want to buy my Dual 6600GT and I can buy the 2nd 6800NU in about a month.

Actually, I just received a 6800GT SLI set, and will soon be posting a 6600GT vs 6800NU vs 6800GT SLI mega review.

If you need some answers right now, you could compare what I did with the 6600GTs to this thread, I would say it's worth it because it gives you a SOLID 12X10 4X8X, and 16X12 4X8X. For me, 12X102X8X was sometimes necessary on the 6600GTs and 16X12 4X8X was out of the question.

My 6600GT SLI benches

Ummmm. The words H**Y S**T come to mind!! :Q