No, by today's standards, the 1950's version wasn't very good, either. BUT, he was a pioneer, and the hits didn't hurt any.
Kurt Cobain and Kim Thayil are on the list but not Zakk Wylde? That's f-ked up!
The list is typical Rolling Stone, with their fad-rock and anti-metal bias.
The list is typical Rolling Stone, with their fad-rock and anti-metal bias.
Chuck Berry is an excellent guitar player- you just wouldn't know it from what he does today. Like BB, he's a trailblazer, heavily influenced by T-Bone Walker. Listen to his old Chess sides from the 50s- Not just the pop stuff, but the B-Sides, like "In the Wee Wee Hours". He's an angry, bitter man, and has good reason to be (I won't get into that here). That doesn't excuse his onstage behavior. I saw him at the Rockport R&B Festival (which was a benefit). He was the closer. Showed up late, got up on stage, plugged in, and didn't even bother tuning up! We walked out on his ass.
If you want to see just how good he can be (and what a pain in the ass he is), check out the concert film "Hail, Hail Rock and Roll!", which is his 60th birthday party concert. Keith Richards is the musical director, and at one point they come to blows. Great stuff, and the actual concert ain't that bad either (Johnnie Johnson, Richards, Clapton, Cray, Etta James, et al). Can't wait for it to hit DVD.
In the pantheon of blues players, Freddie King is THE MAN. Clapton still wants to be him. The fact that he doesn't appear on this list shows how little the folks at Rolling Stone know about the history of American popular music, let alone The Blues.
If you want to see just how good he can be (and what a pain in the ass he is), check out the concert film "Hail, Hail Rock and Roll!", which is his 60th birthday party concert. Keith Richards is the musical director, and at one point they come to blows. Great stuff, and the actual concert ain't that bad either (Johnnie Johnson, Richards, Clapton, Cray, Etta James, et al). Can't wait for it to hit DVD.
In the pantheon of blues players, Freddie King is THE MAN. Clapton still wants to be him. The fact that he doesn't appear on this list shows how little the folks at Rolling Stone know about the history of American popular music, let alone The Blues.
I'm a HUGE Metallica fan, they're my favorite band of all time, I've been obsessed for my entire life.. but Kirk at 12 all time ? I don't know about that. Cobain that high too? wtf... GREAT music but that good ?
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: Fausto1
WTF?
Again....WTF is that all about?
I agree with David Gilmour, WTF
But Jack White, while maybe not 17 worthy, he is one talented mofo (too bad Meg White isn't)
as a drummer i can say with a pretty severe certainty that meg white is a disgrace to all drummers anywhere.
they should take #75 adam jones and put him where #17 jack white is.
the white stripes isnt about complexity.. it's about being plain simple and catchy. if they cared about their sound, they'd have more than 2 people in their band
i havent heard jack white play guitar other than those 2 singles.. is he really that good to be considered on the list?
Originally posted by: johneetrash
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: Fausto1
WTF?
Again....WTF is that all about?
I agree with David Gilmour, WTF
But Jack White, while maybe not 17 worthy, he is one talented mofo (too bad Meg White isn't)
as a drummer i can say with a pretty severe certainty that meg white is a disgrace to all drummers anywhere.
they should take #75 adam jones and put him where #17 jack white is.
the white stripes isnt about complexity.. it's about being plain simple and catchy. if they cared about their sound, they'd have more than 2 people in their band
i havent heard jack white play guitar other than those 2 singles.. is he really that good to be considered on the list?
Watching him on Conan all week that he was on was pretty cool. He's very talented. A friend of mine, a pretty darn good guitarist and trying to get an old band going again, says everyone in the music scene here is into the White Stripes.
Ike Turner belongs on the list. Higher up. His personal life is held to such scrutiny it's forgotten what a great musician he was. Also a trailblazer- arguably produced the first "Rock and Roll" song- Rocket 88.
Anyone remember the guitarist name from the band Triumph? I can't seen to find it on google but he was one heck of a player live.
Never mind I found it. His name was Rik Emmett.
Never mind I found it. His name was Rik Emmett.
WTF kind of list is that? No John Petrucci from Dream Theater and no Yngwie Malmsteen????? Yet Kurt friggin Cobain and Joan Jett are somehow on the list???? What kind of pansy ass losers are working for Rolling Stone these days???? No wonder I haven't picked up that magazine in 13 years.
The problem with this list is that the guys who wrote it probably still get flashbacks from Woodstock. Damn this list is as incomplete as it can get.. damn what the fack is eric clapton doing there.. hmm ok he's quite good.. and where the fack is Mark Knopfler.. Anyway.. just quoting Chet Atkins: "Ohh I'm not the best guitar player in the world, there is in Norway a fella named Oystein Sunde, he's way better than me". That quote was after or before mr. Atkins had a concert in Norway. And really Mr. Sunde will play the boots of old Hendrix... twice if he has too, and I ain't shitting anyone. Awww why am I trying to convince any of you about it?... hahaha.. Well just my 1&1/2cents..
Besides who cares what the fack RS magazine writes... as I said earlier, they're a bunch of crack heads waiting to die of old age.. sigh..
Well About the 1. post on this humongous thread. Yeah I'll probably place mr. gillmoure a bit higher than RS mag.. sigh...
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Besides who cares what the fack RS magazine writes... as I said earlier, they're a bunch of crack heads waiting to die of old age.. sigh..
Well About the 1. post on this humongous thread. Yeah I'll probably place mr. gillmoure a bit higher than RS mag.. sigh...
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So here is a list of people who should have been on but arent:
Steve Vai - i mean please Whats up with that! if you are going to use the whole innovation arguement, didnt he invent the 7 string guitar for christ sake?!?
Joe Satriani - he isnt all about speed, he can just use it when he wants to...he rules...period.
Prince - He can wail when he wants to...listen to the chop on the end of the tune "Lets go Crazy". he should have made it, especiialy on the whole "influence or merit" thread.
Dicky Betts - The almann btohers...listen to the tune "nowhere left to run to" he is awesome!
There are other guys out there....Rik Emmet form Triumph, Steve Howe, Yngiwe.
The list is based on today...not hostiry...they throw in the obligstory Hendrix, Page, etc just to appease others.
I mean Van Halen number 70? What is the sh!t? Anyone heard of the double tap? Anyone ever hear a guitar player after Van Halen who has not used that technique? Christ!
And I am sorry, but guys like Cobain, and the guys form the White Stripes? Thats called F-A-D.
They stick them on there because Cobain is somehow seen as a musical genius because he ate a shotgun..he sucked then..he sucks now.
The White Stripes - A good band, but there are more people who should have been on this list than that guy! He was added because everyone and their brother is saying..."oh white strips this and white stripes that..they are so cool..." i listened to some of their stuff..it sucks..or at least I dont like it.
Steve Vai - i mean please Whats up with that! if you are going to use the whole innovation arguement, didnt he invent the 7 string guitar for christ sake?!?
Joe Satriani - he isnt all about speed, he can just use it when he wants to...he rules...period.
Prince - He can wail when he wants to...listen to the chop on the end of the tune "Lets go Crazy". he should have made it, especiialy on the whole "influence or merit" thread.
Dicky Betts - The almann btohers...listen to the tune "nowhere left to run to" he is awesome!
There are other guys out there....Rik Emmet form Triumph, Steve Howe, Yngiwe.
The list is based on today...not hostiry...they throw in the obligstory Hendrix, Page, etc just to appease others.
I mean Van Halen number 70? What is the sh!t? Anyone heard of the double tap? Anyone ever hear a guitar player after Van Halen who has not used that technique? Christ!
And I am sorry, but guys like Cobain, and the guys form the White Stripes? Thats called F-A-D.
They stick them on there because Cobain is somehow seen as a musical genius because he ate a shotgun..he sucked then..he sucks now.
The White Stripes - A good band, but there are more people who should have been on this list than that guy! He was added because everyone and their brother is saying..."oh white strips this and white stripes that..they are so cool..." i listened to some of their stuff..it sucks..or at least I dont like it.
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