Rolling the dice: Phenom 9500 and ECS motherboard

[Nessism]

Old system is an A64 3700+ on an Asus A9N-SLI Deluxe motherboard with 1 GB ram. Going to save this system and rotate it into system number 2 which is a socket 754 A64 on a nice DFI board...which will eventually wind up in my mom's box which has an XP2400. Flow down system.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: Nessism

Originally posted by: OdiN
I'd get the current board I have. The Asus P5K Deluxe.

P5K Deluxe is a $210 motherboard. Sounds great but not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

Who said anything about apples to apples? If you want do do apples to apples then you need to compare the ECS motherboard to a lump of coal.

an upgrade is better than no upgrade at all hardware snob!

assuming it isn't doa ecs can run a decent working pc just fine.

No....an upgrade is better left until a proper upgrade can be afforded.

Maybe it's just me, but that's how I am. If I can't afford something, then I obviously don't need it and I certainly don't need an off brand version of it. If I'm going to buy something then I will get something of quality or I won't get anything at all.

its not a matter of affording, but justifying spending. 200 might be justifiable and the hardware good enough. not everyone spends their time nitpicking about such things. you could delay most anything if you wanted to save up for the premium version.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
He doesn't have a point. His panties are all bunched up because someone exercised free will, instead of getting in line with the rest of the Intel fanboi lemmings.

I see no problem with the ECS motherboards, they generally make solid non overclocking boards. I've used several in builds over the years with little problems, my best buddy is still using a box I built for him 6yrs ago with the ECS K7S5A

Wow...how wrong you are.

Anyway...I'm just saying I'd rather put quality components in a box that I build. Whether it be AMD or Intel. I'd never use an ECS motherboard in anything and always recommend people stay away from them.

It's cheap junk - you get what you pay for. That's my point.

I fully agree. To be certain there is good reason the mobo was bundled at a nearly "free" price-point.

I have never owned an ECS board, but that doesn't mean I don't have enough common sense to put nearly free motor oil or nearly free gasoline into my not-so-inexpensive car...

Guess where the CPU goes should the "its a quality mobo, but its nearly free for some reason..." mobo dies a violent voltage-spike inducing death?

 

[g677xne3ki8b]

Here is the $249 deal
AMD Phenom 64 X4 Quad-Core 9500 Socket AM2+ Retail Box and ECS A770M-A Socket AM2+ ATX Motherboard Retail Box Combo
Link: http://alrightdeals.com/9500Box_Ecs770M-A/
it's so far the lowest price found. looks like a fry's promo.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
He doesn't have a point. His panties are all bunched up because someone exercised free will, instead of getting in line with the rest of the Intel fanboi lemmings.

I see no problem with the ECS motherboards, they generally make solid non overclocking boards. I've used several in builds over the years with little problems, my best buddy is still using a box I built for him 6yrs ago with the ECS K7S5A

Wow...how wrong you are.

Anyway...I'm just saying I'd rather put quality components in a box that I build. Whether it be AMD or Intel. I'd never use an ECS motherboard in anything and always recommend people stay away from them.

It's cheap junk - you get what you pay for. That's my point.

I fully agree. To be certain there is good reason the mobo was bundled at a nearly "free" price-point.

I have never owned an ECS board, but that doesn't mean I don't have enough common sense to put nearly free motor oil or nearly free gasoline into my not-so-inexpensive car...

Guess where the CPU goes should the "its a quality mobo, but its nearly free for some reason..." mobo dies a violent voltage-spike inducing death?

well great, you've never owned an ecs board. atleast you admit it.
i've owned several from k7 series on and built quite a few more for others, they worked just fine for as long as i used them. they didn't overclock worth sh*t but we aren't talking about cr@p that sets itself on fire. it just is no frills type stuff.

why is it bundled free? the stuff is made dirt cheap in china. the bundles are sold as loss leaders to encourage component sales to build the system. thats why they are bundled free.

some things are just good enough for most people. some people nit pick over which heatsink paste they use and polish their heatspreader and heatsink for better contact to lower the temp maybe 2-3c but is it real world better in most cases where you aren't overclocked to the hilt? probably not.

anyways ecs has been making boards for enough time that they are probably decent at it by now.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
He doesn't have a point. His panties are all bunched up because someone exercised free will, instead of getting in line with the rest of the Intel fanboi lemmings.

I see no problem with the ECS motherboards, they generally make solid non overclocking boards. I've used several in builds over the years with little problems, my best buddy is still using a box I built for him 6yrs ago with the ECS K7S5A

Wow...how wrong you are.

Anyway...I'm just saying I'd rather put quality components in a box that I build. Whether it be AMD or Intel. I'd never use an ECS motherboard in anything and always recommend people stay away from them.

It's cheap junk - you get what you pay for. That's my point.

I fully agree. To be certain there is good reason the mobo was bundled at a nearly "free" price-point.

I have never owned an ECS board, but that doesn't mean I don't have enough common sense to put nearly free motor oil or nearly free gasoline into my not-so-inexpensive car...

Guess where the CPU goes should the "its a quality mobo, but its nearly free for some reason..." mobo dies a violent voltage-spike inducing death?

well great, you've never owned an ecs board. atleast you admit it.
i've owned several from k7 series on and built quite a few more for others, they worked just fine for as long as i used them. they didn't overclock worth sh*t but we aren't talking about cr@p that sets itself on fire. it just is no frills type stuff.

why is it bundled free? the stuff is made dirt cheap in china. the bundles are sold as loss leaders to encourage component sales to build the system. thats why they are bundled free.

some things are just good enough for most people. some people nit pick over which heatsink paste they use and polish their heatspreader and heatsink for better contact to lower the temp maybe 2-3c but is it real world better in most cases where you aren't overclocked to the hilt? probably not.

anyways ecs has been making boards for enough time that they are probably decent at it by now.

I've actually seen several ECS boards set themselves on fire. Onboard components cease to work. Etc.

Though yeah I've seen other boards go up in flames too.

 

[justly]

Some of the people blaming ECS for bad products need to look at the whole picture. Quite often ECS boards are purchased by penny pinching idiots that will combine these boards with the cheapest RAM they can find and put them in a case/power supply combo that may cost as little as $20 after rebate. Thats just the type of users they attract.

Idontcare made a good point with this statement
"I have never owned an ECS board, but that doesn't mean I don't have enough common sense to put nearly free motor oil or nearly free gasoline into my not-so-inexpensive car..."
but he made one mistake, the ECS board is the "not-so-inexpensive car" and not the "nearly free motor oil or nearly free gasoline" those are the power supply and memory that I was talking about earlier.

 

[docmilo]

These ECS boards at Fry's are nearly free, so what's the point of bashing them? When a chip costs $220 at the Egg and at Fry's you get the same chip and a ECS board, you can't beat that.

A few years ago I picked up an ECS board combo with an 805 Pentium D. It was only $120 and this is when the dual cores were still over $200 for the low end. I just wanted to play with dual core so I bought the combo. I have had that combo for nearly 3 years now. The 805 OC's from 2.66 to 3.4 ghz w/o a voltage increase or change in temperature. Best value I've ever had out of a processor. Just installed Windows Home Server on that board.

The bottom line is that these combos are a great value. When a motherboard is free you can basically throw it away if you want a better board later, it costs you nothing. If the board works fine... it's a great deal, especially if you can't afford a board otherwise (OdiN).

 

[nerp]

The other bottom line is that a lot of brands that some people think are OMGosh amazing are really just as "cheap junk" as other brands. If you saw the factories and assembly lines putting out consumer hardware, you'd be pretty startled to find that a lot of branded stuff is all cranked out of the same place. That super-k-rad motherboard with racing stripes might have rolled off the same assembly line as this bargain basement ECS. You don't actually know either way.

(Waiting for the "i traveled through china and visted these factories, I know dude. . . reply)