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Roland Burris new Ill senator Breaking

Originally posted by: Zebo
Can't block him - he's like boy scout and black
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Nope it was just said they would not seat him.

I agree though on paper he looks like a good pick and also a good tool for the Gov to use to protect himself.



"NEW: Top Senate Democrat says Blagojevich's pick will not be seated"
 
Chicago congressman Bobby Rush already playing race card: "i'm sure the senate does not want to go on record denying the only black senator a seat"

They will not even vote on it Marlin.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Chicago congressman Bobby Rush already playing race card: "i'm sure the senate does not want to go on record denying the only black senator a seat"
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I bet if they seat him Blagojevich will use this to say "hey look i got someone seated and he did not pay me anything so i can't be guility..."
 
Why would he accept the nomination under the current cloud over Blagojovich? The Senate has already made it clear they won't seat a Blagojovich pick. Seems like a no-win situation to me.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Can't block him - he's like boy scout and black
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Blago could nominate Mother Theresa and it wouldn't go through. I predict the race card to be played in short order though.

EDIT: looks like Bobby Rush played it. that was quick.

I expect the distinguished Reverend Jesse Jackson to tell us how "deplorable" this would be to reject Burris' rightly appointed duty to serve the people of Illinois...
 
I think they will seat him. Constitutionally in Illinois he was required to appoint someone, and he chose someone above reproach.
I can see the Senate saying he's such a good choice that they will seat him so Illinois has has its fair representation.
 
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Zebo
Can't block him - he's like boy scout and black
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Blago could nominate Mother Theresa and it wouldn't go through. I predict the race card to be played in short order though.

EDIT: looks like Bobby Rush played it. that was quick.

I expect the distinguished Reverend Jesse Jackson to tell us how "deplorable" this would be to reject Burris' rightly appointed duty to serve the people of Illinois...
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Except that his kid is in the running for the seat.
 
Since Burris seems clean, I would imagine Illinois dems to meet, put their own independent seal of approval on Burris, and then, honor satisfied, they can hold some vote and pretend Burris was also their choice all along. At age 71, Burris may only manage to serve until 2010, leaving other Illinois dems an equal shot at his seat while he can becomes a respected party elder.

Even if Burris does have to do some tall explaining to the the Illinois Sec of State while jumping through a few hoops.
 
A a BLACK moderate dem i am sick to my fucking stomach about this ENTIRE FIASCO. I mean WTF ... This tard of a governor is pretty much caught on tape trying to sell the very senate seat of the first African american president. Then he has the cajones to stay in office and then to add insult to injury appoint someone to the seat ?? What is this world coming to ?? Does this man have any shame ?? I dont give a flying F@#$ if this man who was just appointed was jesus incarnate much less black ... WTF was he thinking to even accept the nomination ?? Is he that desperate for power ?? how can you look at yourself in the mirror with integrity? Appointed by a Governor accused of selling the very seat he was nominated for. As for the damn clown Bobby Rush. He can kiss my Mutha@#$%BLACK ass for all i care. When the hell are we going to STOP PLAYING THE GODDAMM RACE CARD? You want a black man in the senate ? RUN FOR OFFICE. Or at least get appointed FREE AND CLEAR!!!

Im SO STEAMED RIGHT NOW!!! :disgust::shocked:
If this man gets within 100 yards of the Senate chamber I want nothing to do with the Dems. Im going independent.

Ugh .,, F#$$%ing disgusting ..
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Zebo
Chicago congressman Bobby Rush already playing race card: "i'm sure the senate does not want to go on record denying the only black senator a seat"
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I bet if they seat him Blagojevich will use this to say "hey look i got someone seated and he did not pay me anything so i can't be guility..."
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Except he did contribute to Blago's election campaign from what I've read...
 
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Why would he accept the nomination under the current cloud over Blagojovich? The Senate has already made it clear they won't seat a Blagojovich pick. Seems like a no-win situation to me.
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My thoughts exactly. I cant imagine anybody accepting the nomination from Blago.
 
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I think if Burris accepts, they have to seat him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_v._McCormack
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Only applies to elected officials.
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I wouldn't be so sure:

The Court's interpretation was that the clause meant that expulsion was the only method for a House to determine the qualification(s) of its members

The SCOTUS seems pretty clear on what powers Congress has, regardless of how the member gets there (appointment election). I.e., no matter whether elected or not, the Constitutional (according to SCOTUS) power afforded to Congress in thi matter is extremely narrow

The Court found that if the Congress went beyond a determination that a candidate member had satisfied the Constitution?s qualifications for membership (and had been duly chosen by, and through the laws of their state) it could not (under the Constitution) go further in examining and possibly rejecting a candidate member before administering the oath of office, and seating them.

Blago's appoint is in accordance with the IL Constitution

Once the Congress had satisfied itself that a candidate member had been presented to it from a Congressional District in accordance with the Congressional District?s State constitution and laws and was also not in conflict with the Congressional qualifications set down in the U.S. constitution, the U.S. Congress had an affirmative constitutional duty to administer the oath to, swear in, and enroll upon the rolls, the candidate member as a Member of Congress.

^ Looks to me like they'll have to swear him in, and then vote him out
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Of course, I could be completely wrong. It's d@mn difficult to predict the SCOTUS.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I think if Burris accepts, they have to seat him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_v._McCormack
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Only applies to elected officials.
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I wouldn't be so sure:

The Court's interpretation was that the clause meant that expulsion was the only method for a House to determine the qualification(s) of its members

The SCOTUS seems pretty clear on what powers Congress has, regardless of how the member gets there (appointment election). I.e., no matter whether elected or not, the Constitutional (according to SCOTUS) power afforded to Congress in thi matter is extremely narrow

The Court found that if the Congress went beyond a determination that a candidate member had satisfied the Constitution?s qualifications for membership (and had been duly chosen by, and through the laws of their state) it could not (under the Constitution) go further in examining and possibly rejecting a candidate member before administering the oath of office, and seating them.

Blago's appoint is in accordance with the IL Constitution

Once the Congress had satisfied itself that a candidate member had been presented to it from a Congressional District in accordance with the Congressional District?s State constitution and laws and was also not in conflict with the Congressional qualifications set down in the U.S. constitution, the U.S. Congress had an affirmative constitutional duty to administer the oath to, swear in, and enroll upon the rolls, the candidate member as a Member of Congress.

^ Looks to me like they'll have to swear him in, and then vote him out
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Of course, I could be completely wrong. It's d@mn difficult to predict the SCOTUS.

Fern
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Article 1, Section 5
"Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members"

The SCOTUS can shove it up their collective keister, the Constitution is explicit in the Senate's ability to refuse to seat anyone Blagojevich nominates.

Also, Blaggy must be a huge douche, b/c he looks pretty douchy in every picture I've ever seen of him.
 
I find it somewhat unfortunate that Burris got selected by that Blago scum. Burris is a somewhat moderate dem, he probably wouldn't make a horrible senator, but the taint of blago will probably keep him out of the senate. Had he been nominated after blago got sacked, he'd have no problem becoming a senator.
 
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Why would he accept the nomination under the current cloud over Blagojovich? The Senate has already made it clear they won't seat a Blagojovich pick. Seems like a no-win situation to me.
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What I was thinking. It's a damn mess, it doesn't matter who Blagojovich chooses I wouldn't expect him to be seated. The senator would always carry the cloud over him, hell, it's more of a black mark against him at this point than anything.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Well looks like I guessed wrong. It looks like Obama and the US Senate will not accept anyone appointed by Blago.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...llinois_governor_obama

In unrelated news, I believe Fitzgerald asked a judge to release certain transcripts of Blagojevich taped call to Illinois lawmakers weighing a Blago impeachment.
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With Obama weighing in, it looks like the seat will remain vacant until Ill can hold a special election or a different governor selects an appointee.
 
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Why would he accept the nomination under the current cloud over Blagojovich? The Senate has already made it clear they won't seat a Blagojovich pick. Seems like a no-win situation to me.
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What I was thinking. It's a damn mess, it doesn't matter who Blagojovich chooses I wouldn't expect him to be seated. The senator would always carry the cloud over him, hell, it's more of a black mark against him at this point than anything.
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You had to go there.. 😉 😛
 
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