Rogue Killer from Adlice?

[Virgorising]

Hi,

Has anyone used this app? Rogue Killer from someplace called Adlice?

http://www.adlice.com/softwares/

I came upon it, it was free, I got the 64-bit version (after getting and running the 32 bit version) and I am running it, but basically, I do not have a clue objectively if it is worthy in any way vs snake oil.

Thanks!

 

[Virgorising]

PS: Well, this thing I do not understand found malicious processes! A lot! So I let it remove them. But before I ran it, I turned on System Restore and made a restore point. Cause I have no clue wut I am doing at the moment or what this thing is.

Edit: I should have said, I first got the 32 bit cause I din know it had a 64 bit, and ran it. It found tons of malicious processes and I told it to remove them.

Then, I came upon the 64 bit version, got rid of the first version and ran the 64---the screenie is from the second run. So now, I have FAR fewer processes running in Task manage than EVER BEFORE IN HISTORY, but things seem OK and remained so when I rebooted to see the result of that. I have no idea what I did, why I did it or anything related.

But I do have that restore point, just in case someone says undo what U did, get rid of this app; it is snake oil.
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Edit:

Just found the tutorial:

http://www.adlice.com/softwares/roguekiller/roguekiller-official-tutorial/

Is that not impressive?() How could it be snake oil with that tutorial?

But I am keeping the restore point until someone very savvy who actually knows about this thing..... weighs in.

 

[Fardringle]

The few non-paid reviews I can find seem to indicate that it is moderately effective at removing malware, but also tends to produce a lot of false positives.

 

[Virgorising]

The few non-paid reviews I can find seem to indicate that it is moderately effective at removing malware, but also tends to produce a lot of false positives.

Sigh. I delved as well and found some mixed reviews. Of course, AFTER I ran both the 32 and then the 64. Hard to believe the processes it tagged as malicious and I let it remove were all that.....but, now that they are gone, things appear just fine.

So FAR, I mean.

I just never saw so few processes in Task Manager before, it's a whole new thing.

I do luv free apps.:$

Until I feel better (assuming I will) I am keeping Sys Restore on and that point I made just before running this thing for the first time.

Thanks, Fardringle!

 

[Virgorising]

Update!

OK since having let this thing find and remove "malicious' processes, and now I have like 25% of what I am used to seeing in Tsk Mgr.....I swear, this system is faster. Tho it was always fast, now it is FASTER. See below, how FEW!!!! I think eveyrone should get this thing and test it and report back!

(But make sure to turn on sys Restore and make a before RogueKiller point.)

Pretty sure I am not imagining this. Just maybe, this thing I came upon....ROCKS and everyone will just luv it!!!

 

[Virgorising]

Update:

Well.......maybe I spoke too soon. I can't get my precious Revosleep to put my backup drive to sleep. I ran repair Revo, rebooted, hit Revo, but still got same complex error message from Revo.

I will now uninstall Revo and reinstall it and see if that puts this normal. If not, I will have to use my Before RogueKill restore point. And that will make me sad.

 

[Virgorising]

Another update:

I am sad. I uninstalled Revosleep, reinstalled it, and I am still getting the complex error message I made a screenie of but gui is tiny so not sure if it will be be legible in below and I can't expand it. I can not live without my Revosleep.

I feel terrible. I will now use the restore point I made and roll the system back to before I ran this thing I was luving until now.....and hope for the best.

It seems it killed some process Revosleep needs.:|:\

 

[Virgorising]

Sigh. I have moved from sad to nauseated now.

System restore did not work to roll back to just before I ran the new app. (See below.) I then tried letting it find missing drivers, etc, but it found nothing.

Now, I will have to boot into my backup drive.....I did last clone pretty recently, and clone it to this my WD Black I always boot into.

I rescind my enthusiasm for this new app.

I must STOP FIDDLING.:|

 

[Virgorising]

Finale/denouement:

Well, as I said I would, I booted into my smaller, much slower backup Seagate drive, used it as source drive to clone it to my in some way, killed by Rogue Killer big, fast WD Black.......which I am now back in, and everything is back to normal as expected; I just put the Seagate to sleep normally.

What can we learn from all this? Stay away from this Roguekiller thingy. It is not discerning in what it decides needs killing.:whiste: And, in my case, also try to stop fiddling.

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[Ketchup]

So, it looks like it gives false positives, then pretends to kill them while actually ending necessary services in task manager to make you think it fixed something.

Slick.

 

[Virgorising]

So, it looks like it gives false positives, then pretends to kill them while actually ending necessary services in task manager to make you think it fixed something.

Slick.

Perfect summation!

But I hadda go thru some first hand STUFF to get it.()

Cept it doesn't pretend to kill them when you say, "OK,I believe U, kill them".....It actually kills them. Along with rendering the restore point I made....USELESS.

If I didn't have my usual internal backup strategy......it would have killed me as well. :$ I could also have done a repair install of W7......but what I did was easier.

But I thought their tutorial spoke real deal....and they have a FORUM. I tried to figure out which processes Revosleep depends on to put backup drive to sleep, but it was beyond me.

What I really need is some app which plays a gif of my mother giving ominous warning...... when I come upon a new freeware and get seduced.:sneaky:

 

[MadScientist]

If you have a rogue virus run Rkill first and then MalawareBytes Anti-Malware. I would not trust any program from a company called Adlice.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/rkill/

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/malwarebytes-anti-malware/

 

[Virgorising]

If you have a rogue virus run Rkill first and then MalawareBytes Anti-Malware.

See, pitiable thing is, I have no anything. This system is clean. I keep it clean. What I do have, it seems, is teeeeeny compulsion to delve, unearth new apps I don't need, esp freewares, trust them, run them....and then have to spend time fixing wut they break.:$

This last one, it appears, is written to find rogue processes, and then kill them. Unfortunately, it seems to think many processes via Microsoft are Rogue.:whiste:

I would not trust any program from a company called Adlice.

But I will say, this little compulsion has brought me some real winners, i.e. Revosleep (which running this thing messed up bigtime). One out of 50 is still better than none out of 50.()

LEARNING EXPERIENCE!:biggrin:

 

[Tigzy]

Hello. I'm the developer of RogueKiller, and owner of adlice.com

So, it looks like it gives false positives, then pretends to kill them while actually ending necessary services in task manager to make you think it fixed something.

This isn't that. RogueKiller has several rules to target malicious processes, and some of them can indeed generate false positives. But as it's only process, that doesn't hurt. FPs on registry keys more embarrassing, so I ask people to send feedback for that.

Could you please post the report you obtained, so that I can explain why they were targeted. RogueKiller is a trusted software, used 21M times since 2010.

Here's a link about the public stats of the software, showing the main targeted malware (ZeroAccess, MBR bootkits, Necurs, lot of rogues, lot of PUPs, ...)
http://www.surlatoile.org/RogueKiller/stats.php

I would not trust any program from a company called Adlice.

May I ask you why? Why trust someone like Grinler, and not someone like me (Tigzy)? If you don't trust me, then don't use Malwarebytes either, because I'm part of the MBAM developer team. too.

Just FYI, RogueKiller is also provided on BleepingComputer, just like RKill and MBAM: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/roguekiller/ (so they trust me, just to say...)

Last question. Why not sending feedback to the multiple contact ways we provide you, and ask such a thing on a forum that has no idea of what it's talking about?

 

[Virgorising]

Hello. I'm the developer of RogueKiller, and owner of adlice.com

OMG!!!!!! How did U find this thread?????? OMG! I unsubscribed to this thread and only now caught this by accident.

This isn't that. RogueKiller has several rules to target malicious processes, and some of them can indeed generate false positives. But as it's only process, that doesn't hurt. FPs on registry keys more embarrassing, so I ask people to send feedback for that.

Well, as should be clear, at first, this app appeared Real deal in every way. What it seemed to mess up was killing some process my beloved Revosleep depends on to do its thing.

May I ask you why? Why trust someone like Grinler, and not someone like me (Tigzy)? If you don't trust me, then don't use Malwarebytes either, because I'm part of the MBAM developer team. too.

Re the above, he who posted that, was just being human and sardonic re the name.
Sorry. I have been using MBAM all my life and would not be without it; to me, it is entirely viable and trustworthy as is Superantrispy.

Could you please post the report you obtained, so that I can explain why they were targeted. RogueKiller is a trusted software, used 21M times since 2010.

Alas, as I posted, I uninstalled the app in the middle of this thread, so anything it generated re reports is long gone.

Last question. Why not sending feedback to the multiple contact ways we provide you, and ask such a thing on a forum that has no idea of what it's talking about?

I feel U. As happens everywhere, here too, there is sometimes unjustified dissing and facile conclusions about this or that. But far more, there are luminous, smart, classy, savvy, generous, experienced tech humans moved to help.

I am grateful you found this thread and posted. Humbled, even. Would you had arrived when the thread was active and the issues current.

Sorry I can't share more info re what happened in my case, cause everything is long gone; obviously, I don't write code, and I have no clue how the singular Revosleep achieves shutting down backup drives, don't know what it needs to function. But some element it needs was killed by yr app.

I also confess I was not discerning in running it/telling it to remove what it determined was malicious, cause my level of expertise in such is very low.

I would get the app again, run it, let it mess up my Revosleep and post the report and log......but I don wanna go thru what I went thru again.

 

[Virgorising]

Correction: actually I din uninstall it. What I did when I got I had to, as I posted, was boot into my backup drive and clone it to the drive I mainly boot into, the WD Black which got messed up after running yr app, wherein Revosleep would not function no matter what I did.

Perhaps you can fathom how Revosleep is written what it depends on to function and conjure which running process it needs yr app killed. Maybe you can learn something from the big error message generated by Revo which I put up. after all, U write code so just maybe.....

I know, longshot, but there is no other way I can supply the info you need to get to the bottom of this. Sorry!

 

[Tigzy]

OMG!!!!!! How did U find this thread?????? OMG! I unsubscribed to this thread and only now caught this by accident.

Héhé That's actually the second result in Google, just under my website adlice.com. So it caught my attention.

What it seemed to mess up was killing some process my beloved Revosleep depends on to do its thing.

Well, I'm pretty sure Revosleep is installed in a temporary folder, or in progradata (which is NOT a place to install a software, but to put dynamic stuff related to it). This is why it was targeted. To be confirmed.

Alas, as I posted, I uninstalled the app in the middle of this thread, so anything it generated re reports is long gone.

mmh, bad news. Looking at the error of revo, it looks like it didn't get the rights needed to dump some of its files, did you start it with admin rights?

Anyway, yeah I feel like I come after the battle
In case you're ready to learn more about it, you can still follow the news feed on FB: https://www.facebook.com/RogueKiller

Cheers!

EDIT: I'll give a shot to revosleep to see if I can reproduce.

 

[Virgorising]

Héhé That's actually the second result in Google, just under my website adlice.com. So it caught my attention.

O! Well, that explains that part.

Re Revo, I suggest you get it, run it, delve into how it functions using yr code writing chops.

Revo does not need Admin Permission to function, ever. And, after it failed, I ran Repair Revo, then uninstalled it and reinstalled it.....same deal.

Before I just did the reverse clone, I considered running a repair install of W 7, with the premise the app had messed up some system file, but din wanna. I went the no brainer route instead. I do internal backup with cloning main drive to backup once a week and establishing dual boot with Easy BCD for good reasons.

And, I just remembered---pls scroll up to where I posted it--- before I ran yr app I turned on System Restore (I mostly keep it off) and made a "Before running Adlice" point which appeared to go normally.

When I saw Revosleep was messed up, I tried to use that point and got error message, the system would not roll back. I put up a screenie of that too.

Again, I am happy you found this thread; maybe we will all learn stuff!!!!:biggrin:

 

[Virgorising]

Tigzy:

Pls see screenie below. Tho I get the 64-bit version now that I am running 64-bit in this system, Revo is in my Programs x86. (Yes, my WD Black is named Piggy.)

Revo is not in some temp folder.

Edit: Look at the revo error messages. Says right there where Revosleep is in this system: program files x86.

Again, I also wanna know why the restore point I made did not work. I have maybe used Sys Retore 4X in my life, tiny sampling, but it did work normally those times. Again, for me, this sounds like some system file got messed up.

 

[Tigzy]

I don't think so. RogueKiller would have told you for system files.
There are many cases where system restore can screw, most of the time it's because of antiviruses. It happened to me several times, with several AVs. You can try with AV switched off during the process of restoring.

Some explanations: http://www.consideritfixed.com/2011/02/what-to-do-when-system-restore-fails.html

System Restore can fail because some software on your computer doesn't understand or respect System Restore. Common culprits are virus and malware protection products and other programs that are typically loaded to provide some type of background service.

Another one about Norton: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-restore/4cda0945-1836-4faa-8161-641788acc934

revosleep in ProgramFiles, well ok. Are you sure RogueKiller killed it then? I see no reason so far. Maybe some dependency process dropped in temporaries? I'll take a look, and let you know.

 

[Virgorising]

I don't think so. RogueKiller would have told you for system files. There are many cases where system restore can screw, most of the time it's because of antiviruses. It happened to me several times, with several AVs. You can try with AV switched off during the process of restoring.

K, never heard this before. the few times I've used Sys restore I din have to turn off anything. But last time was very long ago, and not even in this system.

revosleep in ProgramFiles, well ok. Are you sure RogueKiller killed it then? I see no reason so far. Maybe some dependency process dropped in temporaries? I'll take a look, and let you know. Tigzy is online now Report Post

Well we all know correlation does not imply causation, but Revo failed to work and generated the error messages I put up, only after running Rogue Killer. And nothing I tried short of the reverse clone from the backup drive, restored it.
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PS: had I not been upset and in my usual hurry to put things back right, I might have considered running Sys Restore in Safe Mode. But I never had to do that the few times I've used it.
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PPS: I luv Norton; I trust Norton, I don even go near it, I don have to, cept to empty the log once in a while. Only annoying part is it's always telling me via horizontal slide in pop up, lower right, this or that is safe. I configured it and then I forgot it. For me, that is ideal in an app.
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PPPS: I hate when anyone impugns (or exults over) anything capriciously. Including ME. All I can do is report everything accurately and in detail. In this case, now, apparently for the architect of something, to work to understand and maybe explain to all of us, esp given that is beyond my pay grade.

 

[Virgorising]

K, I just took the time to delve online re having to alter such as Norton to do healthy sys restore. I did see references to this. But, I never heard of this before, and you can't know sumthin until you learn it.

Again, unless I think I might need to run it---that's almost never--- I keep sys restore turned off.

After the mess up, I chose to restore things to normal in the drive I mostly boot into, the easiest way I knew.

 

[Virgorising]

One more: I am always trying to learn things, now, including in all this.

I guess, Tigzy, what I am not gettin now, is how someone who writes complex software, instead of getting and testing Revosleep in this event to learn about it first hand, would jump to some facile conclusion about where it lives/gets installed in the systems people install it in.....or postulate it needs Admin Permission to run it.

I think if someone had had a negative experience with an app I had written, forget offering a detailed chronology/account with visuals.....that is what I might have done.

Revo also has a forum as I recall.

Perhaps this is naive of me, but I kinda assumed anyone who writes software is interested in all viable software and learning about the nuts and bolts of a given app. Esp one as unique as Revosleep.

Yep, it's not huge, but it exists: http://revosleep.realspooky.de/

The forum, I mean.

Remember, his native language is German:

Here is the proceeding of revoSleep

• Lock all partitions on the specified hard disk
• Dismount all partitions on the specified hard disk
• Sleep the specified hard disk
• Put all volumes on the specified hard disk in offline state (vista)
• Deactivate the driver for the specified hard disk
• The locked drives won't wake up
• You can unlock/lock different drives

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OMG!!!!!!!!! I just went again to the Revo forum and looked at the posts, and OMG, I saw something I, Virgorising had posted in 2011!!!! OMG. My user name was jilly. In America. Cause that is who I am and thas where I live.

I posted what I felt might be a helpful experience for others, so no response was expected or needed. I was still using my now backup desktop at the time. I have been luving Revo for a LONG TIME.

OMG, this....is hilarious.:biggrin:

Now, for the Rogue Killer guy, important you know, now that I saw myself in the Revo forum, remembered, I also now recall the event in question I came to get in troubleshooting, involved a Comodo app conflict, no way produced some multi part error code as did Rogue Cleaner! I believe it was a one sentence error code.

I gotta put up a screenie cause trying to paste white text on dark background....don work well.

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[JEDIYoda]

So, it looks like it gives false positives, then pretends to kill them while actually ending necessary services in task manager to make you think it fixed something.

That's why I quit using Nortons....

 

[Virgorising]

That's why I quit using Nortons....

Wut? Apples and oranges. I have never known Norton (singular) to give false positives.