Roger Waters is an jerk

[Rockinacoustic]

Elliot Smith didn't even last 5 years as a famous musician before succumbing to heroin/depression/suicide. Toward the end, Smith would nod off in the middle of one of his whiny songs when trying to play live. I do have to give Smith some style points though for his poetic exit (stabbed his own heart with a knife). Roger Waters is pushing what 70 now? For all I care he can exhume Smith's corpse and piss on it.

Elliot Smith didn't need David Gilmour to make it big though

 

[TheAdvocate]

The article states that Waters hired a PR firm who subsequently hired some wage slaves to paste this photocopied Banksy knockoff posing as street art all over the world.

Elliot Smith didn't even last 5 years as a famous musician before succumbing to heroin/depression/suicide. Toward the end, Smith would nod off in the middle of one of his whiny songs when trying to play live. I do have to give Smith some style points though for his poetic exit (stabbed his own heart with a knife). Roger Waters is pushing what 70 now? For all I care he can exhume Smith's corpse and piss on it.

Since you were fishing hard for it, I'll oblige:

Fuck you.

RIP Elliott.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Elliot Smith didn't need David Gilmour to make it big though

Roger Waters solo > David Gilmour solo

 

[destrekor]

Roger Waters solo > David Gilmour solo

meh

Waters is fail.
Gilmour is WIN.

Case closed. Sleep well folks.

 

[Farang]

Since you were fishing hard for it, I'll oblige:

Fuck you.

RIP Elliott.

I must've had your avatar as my wallpaper for a year or more. I wonder what ever became of that girl.

 

[BrokenVisage]

an jerk

wtf?

this

 

[TheAdvocate]

I must've had your avatar as my wallpaper for a year or more. I wonder what ever became of that girl.

You keep your grubby little fingers off her. SHE'S MINE. MINE MINE!

(Seriously, I dunno who she is... would love to know)

 

[biggestmuff]

Waters is kind of a douche, but he was part of Pink Floyd, so Waters outranks that "artwork" any day.

 

[grrl]

It's heartening to see so many people get outraged by the distorted reporting of an action that has almost zero significance.

 

[Minjin]

Am I the only one that has no idea who Elliot Smith is? My brain interpreted the text as Ricky Watters defacing something that has to do with Emmit Smith.

 

[Anubis]

I must've had your avatar as my wallpaper for a year or more. I wonder what ever became of that girl.

link to large pic

 

[zinfamous]

It's heartening to see so many people get outraged by the distorted reporting of an action that has almost zero significance.

eggsactly.

also, Ironwing won this thread a few posts back, saying pretty much this same thing with keen referencing skills.

 

[zinfamous]

this boils down to a bunch of emos whining about some older, legendary rock dickhead defacing (in their minds) the temple of their emo god...which is shown to be perpetually defaced by other emos and rock barely-knowns on a regular basis.

I suppose they remain somewhat butt-hurt of Waters's feud with a band that might have first exposed them to good music--of course, that feud happened well before these emos were born, so even though there is no personal investment on their parts, they still remain butthurt. ....which is probably at the root of why they moved on to emo music in the first place.

 

[Platypus]

So for the sake of argument, if Roger Waters decided to deface the giant statue of Stevie Ray Vaughan that is in Austin, TX with this same message, would you feel any different about it?

 

[destrekor]

So for the sake of argument, if Roger Waters decided to deface the giant statue of Stevie Ray Vaughan that is in Austin, TX with this same message, would you feel any different about it?

no, because it's a piece of paper. They could tape it on *insert important thing* for all I care. It may, or may not, get promptly removed, but it doesn't matter precisely for that reason: it can be removed with no harm done.

 

[Platypus]

no, because it's a piece of paper. They could tape it on *insert important thing* for all I care. It may, or may not, get promptly removed, but it doesn't matter precisely for that reason: it can be removed with no harm done.

It isn't really the defacement itself. It's the idea of it to me anyway. I don't care if it's a post-it note. Do you really see nothing wrong with advertising a concert on a memorial to someone else's music?

 

[SphinxnihpS]

A. This wall has been fucking mandala every since that idiot stabbed himself (lol twice... yeah...). Look up mandala if you are clueless.

B. The guy who tagged it probably did not know he was working for RW.

C. RW concept did not include specific locations. He didn't tell anyone to paint over any specific anything.

D. The PF sound is due 50% to RW and 50% to RW. Nobody with the initials DG or NM has anything to do with why PF sounds different than every other rock band of that time. PF lyrics are 100% RW since Meddle.

C. It's a photo so you CAN NOT tell if that was paint on the wall or paper glued to it. It certainly looks glued, but that effect can be done quite easily. The rules of Artificial Perspective and Anamorphosis has been around a long time (1400s).

 

[zinfamous]

So for the sake of argument, if Roger Waters decided to deface the giant statue of Stevie Ray Vaughan that is in Austin, TX with this same message, would you feel any different about it?

could I rate this on a scale of how insulted I felt when Ozzie pissed on the Alamo?

....

 

[zinfamous]

It isn't really the defacement itself. It's the idea of it to me anyway. I don't care if it's a post-it note. Do you really see nothing wrong with advertising a concert on a memorial to someone else's music?

Roger Waters is full of himself, we all know this. I think the reality is that his concerts, or events, or albums...his art are all intrinsically tied into some belief that his own personal tragedies are supremely important to our wide cultural landscape. While I still don't believe that he directly ordered this to happen on Smith's memorial, I don't see it as terribly inappropriate, considering that other artistis, musicians, whatever, have been tagging their own names on this memorial. Their names, essentially, are the same damn thing.

"Hey, here I am linking my name to this god of emo. Therefore, I am relevant. Buy my album."

whatever. it isn't an issue.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Roger Waters is full of himself, we all know this. I think the reality is that his concerts, or events, or albums...his art are all intrinsically tied into some belief that his own personal tragedies are supremely important to our wide cultural landscape. While I still don't believe that he directly ordered this to happen on Smith's memorial, I don't see it as terribly inappropriate, considering that other artistis, musicians, whatever, have been tagging their own names on this memorial. Their names, essentially, are the same damn thing.

"Hey, here I am linking my name to this god of emo. Therefore, I am relevant. Buy my album."

whatever. it isn't an issue.

We do? Did you ever read anything about them?

By far the biggest ego in the band was Nick Mason followed closely by David Gilmour. From every source I have seen, Waters is anything but full of himself. PF was basically one artist, two greedy bastards, and Richard Wright holding everything together without the benefit of having an assertive personality.

People get this idea because when Gilmour and Mason basically stole Pink Floyd, Waters did everything he could to prevent them from using the name.

 

[Ns1]

By far the biggest ego in the band was Nick Mason followed closely by David Gilmour. From every source I have seen, Waters is anything but full of himself. PF was basically one artist, two greedy bastards, and Richard Wright holding everything together without the benefit of having an assertive personality.

Sounds like the recipe for most great bands

 

[rasczak]

i care very little about this. the outrage is not spilling out. i am disappoint.

 

[zinfamous]

We do? Did you ever read anything about them?

By far the biggest ego in the band was Nick Mason followed closely by David Gilmour. From every source I have seen, Waters is anything but full of himself. PF was basically one artist, two greedy bastards, and Richard Wright holding everything together without the benefit of having an assertive personality.

People get this idea because when Gilmour and Mason basically stole Pink Floyd, Waters did everything he could to prevent them from using the name.

I'm speaking more of Water's overindulgent constant re-hashing of his life history as the ultimate tragedy of all of humanity. The Wall, the Final Cut, blah blah. Not so much the band on stage. The band essentially became a vehicle for Waters to cry about himself. Don't get me wrong, I like the dude, I think he's quite brilliant. Far more gifted muscially than people give him credit for, but:

His schtick gets annoying.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Sounds like the recipe for most great bands

Absolutely. Good bands are generally comprised of angry people you can identify with but would rather not know.

I just don't like how so many people assume Roger was the bad guy in the scenario. He wrote 100% of the song lyrics for the songs people can name, he wrote most of the music, he sang almost all leads, and harmonized on every track. His insistence about how the songs should sound resulted in how the songs sound on the albums. If there was a single genius in the band, he was it. Of everyone in the band, only he and Wright could not be replaced. Dave was guitar player number 4 for the band, and let's face it, Nick had the drum kit. When you start a band, everyone is a slave to the drummer.

 

[Praxis1452]

It's a piece of paper. You can tell by the drawing itself. Those lines and style do not look like they were done with spray paint. Not. even. close.