ROG Swift vs Samsung 590D

[Eric1987]

Which one would be best? Not counting hardware to push the pixels. Just purely from a better gaming experience all the way around.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

well, the 590D is cheaper, but its only a 4K 60Hz TN monitor (ASUS makes a similar model) with no G-Sync

the much faster ROG Swift seems like the clear winner, even if we consider that its ~$200 more, the lower resolution and G-Sync will mean you can actually get away with substantially less GPU power (i.e. a single 970 would pair well with it, vs. needing multiple GPUs for the 590D to come anywhere close to maintaining a framerate that could be perceived as smooth in comparison to the Swift)

this might be a more interesting question if you were considering the Acer XB280HK, which is a 4K w/ G-Sync (still limited to 60Hz like the 590D), and at that point its all about pixel density vs. speed. (although IMO the Swift is still the clear winner)

 

[3DVagabond]

The 590D also suffers from ridiculous input lag, which the Swift doesn't.

 

[KaRLiToS]

I have the 590D and I really love it. I also have 2 x CrossOvers 27Q at 1440p and they are IPS while the Samsung is a TN panel.

I'll be honest with you, I much prefer the IPS ones.

Also like the other member mentionned, there is a lot of input lag with the 590d. I can notice it when playing games in triple monitors with the 590d in the middle, beside my CrossOvers.

I would really love to see the AMD counter part in action, freesync. But without a competitor, G sync monitors are releasing with huge price tag which I don't like.

If I had Geforce GPUs, the money, I would buy the swift without hesitating a second. According to reviews and owners, it seems like an awsome experience.

 

[Eric1987]

Input lag is stupid then I can't notice a difference from any other monitor I used. Input lag as in pressing buttons on the keyboard and having them appear on the screen right? I don't buy that test. So basically its the 590D if you don't count the cost to push 4k pixels. And I never run my games at more than 60 FPS ever anyways so the 144Hz seems pointless. So its just gsync 1440p vs 60hz 4k.

 

[Dribble]

Input lag is stupid then I can't notice a difference from any other monitor I used. Input lag as in pressing buttons on the keyboard and having them appear on the screen right? I don't buy that test. So basically its the 590D if you don't count the cost to push 4k pixels. And I never run my games at more than 60 FPS ever anyways so the 144Hz seems pointless. So its just gsync 1440p vs 60hz 4k.

Input lag is you moving your mouse in a 3D game to spin your character then the monitor taking a while to catch up. It has a big impact on your ability to hit anything in any fast paced 3D shooter as you have to account for the lag. If you don't care about it or > 60hz which also has an impact on smoothness and your ability to aim then I don't really think you want a gaming monitor.

 

[Eric1987]

Input lag is you moving your mouse in a 3D game to spin your character then the monitor taking a while to catch up. It has a big impact on your ability to hit anything in any fast paced 3D shooter as you have to account for the lag. If you don't care about it or > 60hz which also has an impact on smoothness and your ability to aim then I don't really think you want a gaming monitor.

I've never noticed any difference from any monitor I've ever used. Only input lag I've ever gotten is from TV's. So I am just fine with the input lag. I can still boss up almost anyone in any FPS. And I have never had an issue with 60Hz before the 4k either since I Never have enough GPU power to push that much so I am fine with 25-35 FPS in games. Shooters I'd like around 40 but can deal with 30+

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Input lag is stupid then I can't notice a difference from any other monitor I used. Input lag as in pressing buttons on the keyboard and having them appear on the screen right? I don't buy that test.

input lag is the delay between when you perform any interfacing action (keyboard/mouse) to when you finally see the result on the screen. Keyboard inputs are generally less impactful than mouse control of a fixed camera perspective as the control feels very rubber-bandy on a display with high input lag relative to a display with low input lag. If you haven't noticed it before, it is likely you've either been "lucky" and have had a low input lag monitor all this time without knowing it, or you've only ever had experience with high input lag monitors and have simply gotten used to it because you know of no other way. From what I've seen from my own experience as well as the experience of many friends/acquaintances, the effect of a high input lag monitor becomes far more apparent after having experience with a low input lag monitor, and once you've experienced the low input lag option you don't want to go back (the same is generally true of moving from 60Hz to 120+Hz)

So basically its the 590D if you don't count the cost to push 4k pixels. And I never run my games at more than 60 FPS ever anyways so the 144Hz seems pointless. So its just gsync 1440p vs 60hz 4k.

of course you don't run your games more than 60fps, because there really isn't much point to do so if you have been limited by a 60Hz monitor

anyhoo, if you're toying with the idea of sporting enough GPU power to properly push 4K, you're probably going to have more than enough power to drive 1440p at a frame rate high enough beyond 60fps to appreciate the speed even before considering G-Sync...unless you're going to be pairing a bunch of high end GPUs alongside an AMD CPU...then it might make sense to stick with 60Hz. Although if that's the case I'd definitely consider the Acer XB280HK over the Samsung 590D because G-Sync on the Acer 4K will provide for a better experience, especially if you aren't going to go all out with GPU power. There's also the ASUS PB287Q, which is a 4K model similar to the 590D in specs/performance/price, only it has much less input lag, but again, $200 more for G-Sync could easily save you $300+ in extra GPU cost required to provide a similar if not inferior experience.

I still think the Swift is the best gaming monitor out of all these options, especially considering they're all TN.

 

[wand3r3r]

The rog vs. the acer 4k with gsync
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAfrQ6UAEmU

 

[Eric1987]

That's a better comparison thanks. I'm fine with my 590D.

 

[KaRLiToS]

Which card(s) are you using with your U28D590D?

 

[Eric1987]

290x at 1100/1600

 

[Elfear]

Other review sites got really good results with the 590D and didn't show the same input lag as TFT Central.

Hardware Info

The Average Gamer
" It does a great job of displaying games with good colour and no lag that affects gameplay."

PC Games Hardware

They measured input lag at 20ms but said "Despite the imperfect values ​​the Samsung U28D590D is fully suitable for gaming."

PC Monitors

They also measured higher input lag but ran at a non-native resolution (1080p) which could skew the results.

"To us the monitor felt somewhat more responsive when running the UHD resolution, for some reason, so it is possible that forcing the monitor to run at a non-native resolution increases the signal delay and hence increases input lag."


I've been using the 590D for a few months now and so far it's been great. I haven't noticed increased input lag compared to my 30" HP monitor. The picture quality is outstanding in the games that have higher resolution textures (e.g. Skyrim).

Choosing between the 590D and the Swift would be really tough because I love the Lightboost feature of my 24" Asus monitor but 4k looks gorgeous. I'd wait for the 4k Acer monitor with G-Sync to be reviewed and see if it's a viable option.

 

[Subyman]

This is really a personal decision. Comparing 4k 60hz to 1440p 144z + gsync is a completely different experience. I chose to go with the ROG Swift because I'm not ready to game at 35-45fps on a 4k monitor especially without g-sync. Maybe during the next round of GPU upgrades I'll be ready to move to 4k, but right now my 2x970 set up would be struggling just to hit 60fps consistently.

I'm loving the ROG Swift though. Very smooth.

 

[Eric1987]

This is really a personal decision. Comparing 4k 60hz to 1440p 144z + gsync is a completely different experience. I chose to go with the ROG Swift because I'm not ready to game at 35-45fps on a 4k monitor especially without g-sync. Maybe during the next round of GPU upgrades I'll be ready to move to 4k, but right now my 2x970 set up would be struggling just to hit 60fps consistently.

I'm loving the ROG Swift though. Very smooth.

Different strokes for different folks.