hal2kilo
Lifer
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Yep, with this kind of ruling, it doesn't even matter if any specific group gets any specific majority in the senate/house/whatever, the SC can just decide that the law shouldn't be/isn't written correctly/doesn't apply, and just strike it down. It's essentially turning the judicial branch into the monarchical branch.
This is the most bonkers part of the ruling - Roberts admits it's covered by the statute and then just says that doesn't matter. His position is:
1) the law itself is constitutional
2) the regulation is consistent with the law
3) I think congress didn't really mean it though so I'm going to invalidate it anyway.
If Congress didn't mean it they are free to pass a new law limiting the EPA's authority. Roberts knows that won't happen though so he just 'passes' his own law to enact GOP policy.
So did they lie to me in civics class when thet said we had 3 co-equal branches of government?
No, Congress could neuter the court if it chose too, they are just choosing not to.
Yep, the check still exists, it's just not being utilized because a sufficient segment of congress doesn't want to, to all our detriment.
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
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Truly a sign that freedom is alive and well in our fair country.
The thought had occurred to some of us
I'd vote for a moist sack of shredded turnip over whatever fascist gets the R nomination, as the odds of them nominating anything other than a Christian fascist representative are effectively zero.
cytg111
Lifer
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Next up from the SC :"Cant possibly have meant to..." when overruling it first chance.
What makes you think they aren't already? This survey says new gun owners are likely to be younger and people of color. Demographics I thought were more likely on the left.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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K1052
Elite Member
- Aug 21, 2003
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Not voting for anybody in a primary who's stance on the court isn't "strip it and stack it" at this point.
Because it puts the court on blast for being partisan and antidemocratic, ehich serves as the cudgel to pack the court.
Build the momentum and the people will come out in droves.
Can women then sue to overturn the ban under equal protection grounds? Citing the fetus' right to health superseding her own?
I know i know...this assumes the court would use consistent logic and application of the law blah blah...
HomerJS
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2002
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Yet another violent Republican is out of his race...
GOP Candidate Suspends Campaign After Viral Video Shows Him Assaulting Opponent at Pro-Choice Rally (msn.com)
HomerJS
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2002
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Heard SCOTUS will take up a case that will not allow the state courts to have the final word on voting related cases. They took it because they believe that have a 5th vote.
I asked why should SCOTUS be allowed to choose their own cases and looked up how that is done...
The court is permanently fucked because there will be no cases that might rule in favor of progressive causes since conservatives have 6.
Basically conservatives in the position to permanently legislate from the bench.. Deciding which cases because they know in advance they can be won.
I asked why should SCOTUS be allowed to choose their own cases and looked up how that is done...
The court is permanently fucked because there will be no cases that might rule in favor of progressive causes since conservatives have 6.
Basically conservatives in the position to permanently legislate from the bench.. Deciding which cases because they know in advance they can be won.
I've also seen examples in occasional newspaper articles. But I'm suspicious how far such people are being honest, vs just playing duplicitous games.
On the other hand, maybe there is a section of the US electorate where racism (and/or sexism) genuinely vies with class resentment as a political motivator, and who could go either way, politically, depending on circumstances.
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
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They would have to go on record that they are for or against something. Someone might remind them of their record when they run, so they just throw up their hands and let the SCOTUS decide everything. Do your Fn jobs!
shortylickens
No Lifer
- Jul 15, 2003
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“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”
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A large majority of our problems stem from having an ineffectual Congress. It can’t pass laws, it can’t discipline misconduct in the other branches, nothing.
There will be some, since Roberts and Gorsuch do join the liberals some of the time, but yes, there is a bias now.
Yup. Parliamentary system not chocked full of disruptive tactics by the opposition party. With multi party system, different parties with similar leanings can still govern
There should be a lynchpin rule placed as an amendment, where if 75% of the populace believes that the existing government is ineffective, the entire Senate and house are ejected by the military, new members are chosen from the voter registration (bookended age brackets), and a new runoff is done 365 days later.
Call it the Guillotine Protocol, because in the absence of a meaningful way to unseat corruption in the house/Senate, your options are either guillotines or a populist dictator taking control of the military, and that kinda goes back to the guillotine thing.
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HomerJS
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2002
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There will be none because they can hide all this shit in the shadow docket.
Time for Congress to defund the SCOTUS until they reform themselves. They are violating the basic tenant of co-equal branches of government by taking cases just because they know they have the votes in advance.
For starters they need to operate under the same ethics rules as the rest of federal judges
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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A little more insight into Congress.
It's certainly a pickle when, even with "control" one is unable to exercise even the most basic legislation.
America is paralyzed and it is dividing us because no one can "win". And a country that cannot vote to deliver change, will find other ways.
Why Didn’t Democrats Codify Roe When They Had the Chance?
It's certainly a pickle when, even with "control" one is unable to exercise even the most basic legislation.
America is paralyzed and it is dividing us because no one can "win". And a country that cannot vote to deliver change, will find other ways.
Why Didn’t Democrats Codify Roe When They Had the Chance?
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