Rocket fuel - not too hard to get/make?

[jupiter57]

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
its called kerosene and if you live somewhere cold your local gas station may have it.

Sorry, Dude!
Kerosene is JET Fuel, it has to be compressed to burn efficiently and produce thrust.
Rocket fuel must be capable of stand-alone ignition.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: jhayx7

Originally posted by: KDOG
Yes, I did google, and have another page open going thru the results. Just wanted ask the good people at ATOT as well. Anything wrong with that? Jeez....

NEVAR ask the "good people" at ATOT, they are broing. The bad people are more fun, and you get to take trips to the hospital if you follow their advice. Have you looked up sugar rockets?

http://balloons.space.edu/ndra/nickle.html:evil:

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: jupiter57

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
its called kerosene and if you live somewhere cold your local gas station may have it.

Sorry, Dude!
Kerosene is JET Fuel, it has to be compressed to burn efficiently and produce thrust.
Rocket fuel must be capable of stand-alone ignition.

Mixed with LOX, it is rocket fuel.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: KDOG
Seems that solid rocket fuel is like fine aluminum powder, some ammonium pechlorate powder, and HTPB. I wonder what the ratios' are. I would like to do some *small* scale experimenting with it, so where would I get these ingredients?

Making them is easy. The hard part is not DIAF. The other hard part is not having guys in suits knocking on the door (chemical watchlist).

Is there any reason you cannot use something premade? Safer. Much safer. Maybe not as 'fun', but neither is DIAF. Also, some motors, when launched, can get you in trouble with folks like the FAA. Others might get you in trouble as explosives.

Based on what I see at rocketryforum.com, I would suggest not experimenting. ATF is just looking for an excuse.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: KDOG
Seems that solid rocket fuel is like fine aluminum powder, some ammonium pechlorate powder, and HTPB. I wonder what the ratios' are. I would like to do some *small* scale experimenting with it, so where would I get these ingredients?

Making them is easy. The hard part is not DIAF. The other hard part is not having guys in suits knocking on the door (chemical watchlist).

Is there any reason you cannot use something premade? Safer. Much safer. Maybe not as 'fun', but neither is DIAF. Also, some motors, when launched, can get you in trouble with folks like the FAA. Others might get you in trouble as explosives.

Based on what I see at rocketryforum.com, I would suggest not experimenting. ATF is just looking for an excuse.

Back in the 60's it was 'Ametuer Rocketry', but in todays mindset it's pipe bombers and terrorists - same devices.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: Aflac
dont die in a fire!

Is someone recording this? I think this is an ATOT first.

 

[FoBoT]

yeah, the meat rocket thing works
make a meat rocket

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
Could go the hybrid route. Hydrocarbon + NOx.

Yup, Mythbusters did it. Paraffin wax and an oxidizer.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: jupiter57

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
its called kerosene and if you live somewhere cold your local gas station may have it.

Sorry, Dude!
Kerosene is JET Fuel, it has to be compressed to burn efficiently and produce thrust.
Rocket fuel must be capable of stand-alone ignition.

Technically he's right. Kerosene is a rocket fuel. You need to combine it with oxygen to burn it in a rocket, but oxygen is an oxidizer, not a fuel.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
Could go the hybrid route. Hydrocarbon + NOx.

Yup, Mythbusters did it. Paraffin wax and an oxidizer.

Or the SpaceShip One recipe which is rubber and NOx.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Rocket Fuel?

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
Solid hydrogen + solid oxygen.

You're going to have a damned hell of a time trying to store and move that around, though.

i think you mean LIQUID.

thats what the space shuttle uses, the big red tank is full of the stuff

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: 151528
use salami, it seriously works, salami and liquid nitros oxide, have the salami ignite first, and then flow the nitros into it once it has begun to burn.

Mythbusters, FTW!

 

[spikespiegal]

Space shuttle booster formula by percent:

Aluminum powder...................................16
Ammonium perchlorate..............................69.9
Fe2O3 catalyst....................................0.07
Rubber based binder of polybutadiëne acrylic acidacrylonitrile.....12.04
Epoxy curing agent................................1.96

Sugar rockets are made from potassium nitrate either ground or melted with sugar at a ratio of 75/25.

I've put Aerotech based rockets up over a mile.

 

[BrownTown]

the Saturn V used kerosene, and alot of other rockets use kerosene or ethanol. However its cheaper and easier to use solid rocket fuel, so most modern stuff uses one of several different soild mixes. Also liquid hydrogen is used too, but its a pretty difficut substance to work with.

 

[Brainonska511]

You may consider reading this: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/14/scien...1230400&en=b05d3e7bc4acac15&ei=5087%0A

 

[TheGizmo]

Originally posted by: Garth
Rocket Fuel?

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[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
You may consider reading this: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/14/scien...1230400&en=b05d3e7bc4acac15&ei=5087%0A

The BATFE is trying to shut rocketry down. It is a huge shame and waste. Of course, the same folks who think private planes are a national defense risk agree (while allowing anyone to rent a truck.)