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Rock is finally dead, so says Gene Simmons

Thebobo

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Ironically I was never a Kiss fan but it seems to me it is. I find myself looking further and further back. Maybe its age but are there lots of new rock groups out there? All I see is Indie and rap.

http://loudwire.com/gene-simmons-rock-finally-dead/

Gene Simmons is making headlines again, this time for burying rock ‘n’ roll. The outspoken artist says “Rock is finally dead,” in an interview conducted by his son Nick for Esquire magazine. The Kiss singer-bassist also shares his thoughts on the failing record business and how he would not want to be an up-and-coming artist today.

“The death of rock was not a natural death,” Simmons offers. “Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered. Some brilliance, somewhere, was going to be expressed, and now it won’t, because it’s that much harder to earn a living playing and writing songs. No one will pay you to do it.”

Simmons also offers sobering advice for young musicians and songwriters saying, “Don’t quit your day job is a good piece of advice. When I was coming up, it was not an insurmountable mountain. Once you had a record company on your side, they would fund you, and that also meant when you toured they would give you tour support.” He adds, “There are still record companies, and it does apply to pop, rap, and country to an extent. But for performers who are also songwriters — the creators — for rock music, for soul, for the blues — it’s finally dead. Rock is finally dead.”

He continues on about how he feels for this lost generation of kids who will not have the same opportunity that he had with Kiss. “It’s very sad for new bands. My heart goes out to them. They just don’t have a chance.” Simmons remarks. “If you play guitar, it’s almost impossible. You’re better off not even learning how to play guitar or write songs, and just singing in the shower and auditioning for ‘The X Factor.’ And I’m not slamming ‘The X Factor,’ or pop singers. But where’s the next Bob Dylan? Where’s the next Beatles? Where are the songwriters? Where are the creators?”

Simmons added that he is not being simply being cantankerous offering, “I’m not the guy to be pouting and complaining about stuff. I make a decent living. I’m very, very lucky. But that’s because we started before the chaos, in the days when people had to buy records. If you didn’t like a band, you didn’t buy their albums, and the people decided.”
 
Rock is generally boring. It had it's day, and that day is mostly done. Money can still be made making quality music, but becoming a millionaire is an unreasonable expectation. Record companies dying is a good thing. That means fewer millionaires, but better music.
 
Main stream music has become thumbed down for the masses that do not have nor want to utilize brain power. To make it big you have to do what the big people say and typically is just to sell the most people which loses the appeal of originality. Thus the term sell-out.
 
Remember, it's always better back in my day says every person ever.

It's just different now. I don't really listen to modern rock but there are still real musicians out there. The difference is that nowadays you can't be only average and get a record deal like back then because exposure was hard. Today, every wannabe star can be on YouTube and you have to really at yourself apart.
 
How long has it been since Gene Simmons has been relevant anyways to anything?

I saw KISS yeeeeears ago, and Ted Nugent opened for them. At one point, one of them(Gene?) asked "What do you want to hear!?", and there were not a few calls for Ted Nugent. I concurred :^D
 
How long has it been since Gene Simmons has been relevant to anything?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSYXXIW9gfE

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Main stream music has become thumbed down for the masses that do not have nor want to utilize brain power. To make it big you have to do what the big people say and typically is just to sell the most people which loses the appeal of originality. Thus the term sell-out.

Kiss are pretty much the definition of dumbed down, brainless corporate rock.

The only reason that they don't get called sellouts is that they didn't have any credibility to start with.
 
Well, he's not wrong. Rock died not long after Kurt Cobain committed suicide in 1994. Without the artists and visionaries, the industry just collapsed in on itself. The record labels wanted stuff that was more generic so it would reach a wider appeal and thus sell more albums.

Gene is still a twat though. He seems to be blaming the rise of digital music for the fall of rock. Haha, nope. It was business that killed it. There's plenty of content creators out there. They're just doing it off label now, because it's so easy to record and distribute on your own.
 
Like Gene or not, he's right. Rock, as a creative and vibrant music format, is dead.

Well, he's not wrong. Rock died not long after Kurt Cobain committed suicide in 1994. Without the artists and visionaries, the industry just collapsed in on itself. The record labels wanted stuff that was more generic so it would reach a wider appeal and thus sell more albums.

itt people assume that rock music not found on public airwaves does not exist
 
While I agree that rock is pretty much dead, the following quote glosses over the internet and how much easier it makes it for independent artists to get their work out there.

Simmons also offers sobering advice for young musicians and songwriters saying, “Don’t quit your day job is a good piece of advice. When I was coming up, it was not an insurmountable mountain. Once you had a record company on your side, they would fund you, and that also meant when you toured they would give you tour support.” He adds, “There are still record companies, and it does apply to pop, rap, and country to an extent. But for performers who are also songwriters — the creators — for rock music, for soul, for the blues — it’s finally dead. Rock is finally dead.”

Pretty much this:
itt people assume that rock music not found on public airwaves does not exist
 
I'd say that yes, arena filling mega star rock bands are dead at this point. But there are still many very cool, very fun and very talented bands that most people have never heard of out there busting their asses touring small/mid size venues nearly every night of the week.

Check out your local dive bar for their live bands nights and give one of these non-mainstream bands a chance.
 
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Simmons also offers sobering advice for young musicians and songwriters saying, “Don’t quit your day job is a good piece of advice. When I was coming up, it was not an insurmountable mountain. Once you had a record company on your side, they would fund you, and that also meant when you toured they would give you tour support.” He adds, “There are still record companies, and it does apply to pop, rap, and country to an extent. But for performers who are also songwriters — the creators — for rock music, for soul, for the blues — it’s finally dead. Rock is finally dead.”

Yeah my wife and I have been hitting up local joints and catching bands on a chance. Sometimes it's a small cover charge, sometimes it's tickets that are $10-$15 for 3-4 bands to play. They usually have CD's or download codes available for their albums for $5. We've bought albums from about every band we caught on those nights. They were largely self produced and promoted. Facebook, iTunes, touring, ect. Don't need record labels for a lot of that when you've got a laptop and recording studio software and cheap if not free web hosting to get your name out and a place to stream your songs from.
 
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Check out your local dive bar for their live bands nights and give one of these non-mainstream bands a chance.

*I can't think of a mainstream rock band from any era that's still operating I'd accept free tickets to. It's not worth the drive or hassle to see them.

Postmodern Jukebox is playing in Philly this Oct, and I'm thinking about going to see them. The biggest question is how much I feel like dealing with Philly to go.

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*assuming an arena setup. I did go a couple times to see Dylan at a local amateur stadium, and would go again, but it's only ~10 miles from my house, and low hassle. I wouldn't go far, or to a major arena to see him.
 
I can't think of a mainstream rock band from any era that's still operating I'd accept free tickets to. It's not worth the drive or hassle to see them.

I'd still gladly take tickets a Metallica show. They can still play their asses off. Will be catching Clutch next Wednesday night and geeked for that show.
 
I'd still gladly take tickets a Metallica show. They can still play their asses off. Will be catching Clutch next Wednesday night and geeked for that show.

You know what pisses me off? Paying $60+, going to an arena, and being treated like a criminal. Fuck you. Seriously, go fuck yourself. I decided long ago I wouldn't pay money for the jail processing experience, and I haven't been since. I stick with smaller venues, and more "respectable" acts.

I can have a 5* better experience at a bar for 5* less cost. Or I can see a band like Sigur Rós at a real concert hall, and get music most bands can only dream of making, and be treated like a guest, not a criminal. Easy decision.
 
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