Robert Redford has passed at age 89 (RIP)

spacejamz

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Sneakers is another excellent flick. River Phoenix was good in it.
RIP

favorite line from that movie: Cattle mutilations are up this year

without checking google, I think he was in the A Bridge Too Far where he was leading that boats while doing some Hail Marys...pretty sure that movie has some record for the most number of top stars in it...
 

DigDog

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i don't feel sad.
he lived a great life, was a great actor, and the protagonist of many fantastic films. he managed to live it all without putting his foot in his mouth. respect to this man.

may many others follow in your footsteps.
 

JulesMaximus

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maybe it's time for me to finally watch Out Of Africa.

It’s a great movie. It’s an epic love story but it is really well written and the acting is, of course, amazing.

Also watch ‘3 Days of the Condor.’ If you like intelligent thrillers you’ll love this movie. ‘All the President’s Men’ is another great movie of his.
 
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DigDog

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It’s a great movie. It’s an epic love story but it is really well written and the acting is, of course, amazing.

Also watch ‘3 Days of the Condor.’ If you like intelligent thrillers you’ll love this movie. ‘All the President’s Men’ is another great movie of his.
Oh Jules, you would think i have not seen 3 Days or President's Men ? (i even read the Condor book - completely different story)

Before i launch into a review of OOA, a bit of background. I was 12yo when this film came out. Me and my dad were in the US, he was setting up his house building business.

I was too young to want to watch anything like this; i think the highlight of the year for me was Enemy Mine, but i also watched After Hours, Legend, Return To Oz, Black Cauldron, Prizzi's Honor, Ladyhawke, Young Sherlock Holmes, DARYL, Spies Like Us, Back To The Future, A View To A Kill, Weird Science, Goonies, Ran, The Coca-Cola Kid, Jewel of the Nile aaaaaaaaaaand ... Fletch. (we spent a lot of time in the theaters)
Oh and Back To The Future. And Coocoon. And Fright Night. And Mad Max 3 - Beyond Thunderdome. And Goonies. Shit, 1985 was fucking awesome.

My dad watched it. He was coming off of 20+ years of a career in film distribution, so anything Oscar-nominated would be in his watchlist. And he said, he found it "well made, but .. a bit boring". A negative review by my dad was a death sentence for a film, which is why i've never hurried to watch it .. until now.

So;

i watched:

Out Of Africa - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089755/reference/

taken from an autobiography of the Baroness Karen Blixen, it's primarily the story of the life of this socialite, during the height of the Bri'ish Empire, early 1900s. The brits are expanding throughout the world, with the protagonist considering Denmark, or New York, or Australia as a relocation to escape the boredom of her wealthy life, but settles for Kenya instead, marrying the destitute but otherwise pleasant Baron Blixen. And she does so in perfect british fashion, with teapots, gramophone, and crates of wine, fundamental survival tools for the savannah.
The Blixens are planning to create a great plantation of coffee. Wife and husband have a .. mediocre relationship. Neither is particularly in love with the other, with the whole thing being more of a business venture than anything else. He often leaves her for days, and has the occasional sexual escapade, and she is just slightly disappointed by all this.

Then Robert Redford shows up. He is the archetypal rough, solitary man that Karen has dreamed of all her life; someone who she hopes can offer her that romantic love the she so desires above all else. And he does, but not in the manner that she wants. And he refuses to bow his head, to be the man pining for his wife every instant. She loves him because he is free, but she also wants to own him.

And that's essentially the entirety of the plot.

I wouldn't call the film "boring", but it certainly is .. simple. I wouldn't really call it a love story, it doesn't have that sort of beat which follows a story based on human emotions, rather it's more of a biographical work, giving equal importance to parts related and not to her relationships.

The film is more than 2 full hours, with the epilogue being half hour long. There's a few, sparse uses of some of the most horrendous greenscreen of all cinema history, the kind that would make you reconsider the special effects of David Lynch's Dune. Obviously the spectacle of the african backdrop is part of the film, but not as prominent as, for example, in Lawrence Of Arabia.

I have not read the book, but from the summary on Wikipedia, it seems the film script has simplified the events into a more streamlined "woman goes to africa, looking for love and money, finds neither but finds herself". And while in a way that's accurate, the truth is probably deeper.

I found the experience rather pleasant. Sure, it was a long film, but i wasn't really bored. It's halfway between having and not a great story to tell; i am thinking of "The Ghost And The Darkness" as being a film in a similar setting, but which has a solid story to rely on, and then Out Of Africa seems more like a documentary, itself divided between "this is Africa" and "this was the British Empire at the beginning of the century", both of which are things of some interest, but not quite enough to make me want to recommend this film that much.

My vote: 7/10. It was allright. It's well made. It's not offensive. You'll probably enjoy it a lot more if you're a woman, which i'm not.
 
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Charmonium

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I think that even a hundred years from now, people are going to know the name. Like Chaplin, Garbo or Astaire. It's hard to do much better than that. I mean, having your name live for thousands of years is another couple levels up like Seti, Narmer, Ramses II, etc. But still quite respectable.

And you have to admire anyone puts their money and sweat behind their moral and ethical pontifications. I didn't always agree with him but you have to respect the man.
 
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JulesMaximus

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Oh Jules, you would think i have not seen 3 Days or President's Men ? (i even read the Condor book - completely different story)

Before i launch into a review of OOA, a bit of background. I was 12yo when this film came out. Me and my dad were in the US, he was setting up his house building business.

I was too young to want to watch anything like this; i think the highlight of the year for me was Enemy Mine, but i also watched After Hours, Legend, Return To Oz, Black Cauldron, Prizzi's Honor, Ladyhawke, Young Sherlock Holmes, DARYL, Spies Like Us, Back To The Future, A View To A Kill, Weird Science, Goonies, Ran, The Coca-Cola Kid, Jewel of the Nile aaaaaaaaaaand ... Fletch. (we spent a lot of time in the theaters)
Oh and Back To The Future. And Coocoon. And Fright Night. And Mad Max 3 - Beyond Thunderdome. And Goonies. Shit, 1985 was fucking awesome.

My dad watched it. He was coming off of 20+ years of a career in film distribution, so anything Oscar-nominated would be in his watchlist. And he said, he found it "well made, but .. a bit boring". A negative review by my dad was a death sentence for a film, which is why i've never hurried to watch it .. until now.

So;

i watched:

Out Of Africa - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089755/reference/

taken from an autobiography of the Baroness Karen Blixen, it's primarily the story of the life of this socialite, during the height of the Bri'ish Empire, early 1900s. The brits are expanding throughout the world, with the protagonist considering Denmark, or New York, or Australia as a relocation to escape the boredom of her wealthy life, but settles for Kenya instead, marrying the destitute but otherwise pleasant Baron Blixen. And she does so in perfect british fashion, with teapots, gramophone, and crates of wine, fundamental survival tools for the savannah.
The Blixens are planning to create a great plantation of coffee. Wife and husband have a .. mediocre relationship. Neither is particularly in love with the other, with the whole thing being more of a business venture than anything else. He often leaves her for days, and has the occasional sexual escapade, and she is just slightly disappointed by all this.

Then Robert Redford shows up. He is the archetypal rough, solitary man that Karen has dreamed of all her life; someone who she hopes can offer her that romantic love the she so desires above all else. And he does, but not in the manner that she wants. And he refuses to bow his head, to be the man pining for his wife every instant. She loves him because he is free, but she also wants to own him.

And that's essentially the entirety of the plot.

I wouldn't call the film "boring", but it certainly is .. simple. I wouldn't really call it a love story, it doesn't have that sort of beat which follows a story based on human emotions, rather it's more of a biographical work, giving equal importance to parts related and not to her relationships.

The film is more than 2 full hours, with the epilogue being half hour long. There's a few, sparse uses of some of the most horrendous greenscreen of all cinema history, the kind that would make you reconsider the special effects of David Lynch's Dune. Obviously the spectacle of the african backdrop is part of the film, but not as prominent as, for example, in Lawrence Of Arabia.

I have not read the book, but from the summary on Wikipedia, it seems the film script has simplified the events into a more streamlined "woman goes to africa, looking for love and money, finds neither but finds herself". And while in a way that's accurate, the truth is probably deeper.

I found the experience rather pleasant. Sure, it was a long film, but i wasn't really bored. It's halfway between having and not a great story to tell; i am thinking of "The Ghost And The Darkness" as being a film in a similar setting, but which has a solid story to rely on, and then Out Of Africa seems more like a documentary, itself divided between "this is Africa" and "this was the British Empire at the beginning of the century", both of which are things of some interest, but not quite enough to make me want to recommend this film that much.

My vote: 7/10. It was allright. It's well made. It's not offensive. You'll probably enjoy it a lot more if you're a woman, which i'm not.

It’s a total chick flick but I tend to watch movies like this because I’m married, to a woman. What happens is my wife picks a movie like this for us to watch together and she ends up falling asleep and I watch the entire movie. This has happened several times. Anyway, I really liked the movie. Fuck, it won 7 Oscars.

How would I know what movies you have seen? :confused;
 

Charmonium

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Haha, my ex used to like Say Yes to the Dress. I really liked that show. Some downlow, drama with the temp of a warm bath, some humor, weird shit that people do in this situation. Very entertaining.

There were a couple of others too, but not enough to cause significant mental or physical decay.