Roadside drug testing

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: nkgreen
I wonder what they can do if you got a nice juicy wad of 'bakker in your mouth.

fixed.

*spits Grizzly in JohnCU's eye.

that's sum good shit wot wot

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: nkgreen
I wonder what they can do if you got a nice juicy wad of 'bakker in your mouth.

fixed.

*spits Grizzly in JohnCU's eye.

that's sum good shit wot wot

mint and wintergreen baby

:wmk:

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
The ONLY problem I see with this is that as usual, there's no way to differentiate between the joint you smoked over the weekend in the privacy of your own home, and the one you were smoking when the cop pulled you over.

I don't smoke dope...and haven't in 30 years or so, but there needs to be a way to make this distinction.

Of course, I also support legalization and regulation of marijuana just like liquor. Remove all criminal penalties for posession, tax it, sell it in liquor stores...get the states and US out of debt quickly, PLUS, if you remove it from the criminal drug stream, you'll reduce the number of cops who waste time and money trying to arrest people for it, prosecutors who waste time and money prosecuting people for it, etc. and take a sizeable chunk of money away from the criminal element who make BILLIONS of dollars growing, transporting, and selling it.

Win-Win all around.

That's what I was thinking. Just glancing at Google says the saliva test can test positive for Marijuana up to 3 days after the actual use. Yay, another tool to aid in the War on Drugs (aka the War on Marijuana), meanwhile the harder drugs are out of your system in half the time.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: astroidea
I wonder how the amphetamine one would work. I can foresee people with ADD that forgot their proof of medication sitting in a jail cell until they can prove it.

Is it that hard to call the pharmacy?

Why should you have to? You're innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: JohnCU
they forgot about pain pills and benzos.

Heroin = opiate = pain meds.

Depends on how specific their ligand is. i.e. they might test for all opiates or maybe just heroin or oxycodone or whatever. Certainly can't tell from the article.

 

[theMan]

sweet, it doesn't detect acid! its ok with me then.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: astroidea
I wonder how the amphetamine one would work. I can foresee people with ADD that forgot their proof of medication sitting in a jail cell until they can prove it.

same way it works w/ medical MJ? Write up the ticket, show up to court w/ proof of script.

Only except possession of MJ is a misdemeanor, aka ticket/court, and amphetamine possession is a felony, which I thought was arrest on the spot.

 

[IGBT]

truckers in calif.are under enhanced random testing as well as .040 BA.

 

[illusion88]

My work place has something similar. When you get hurt on the job you have to go take the test.

I work at a ski resort, so obviously there are people that do drugs. This one kid I knew smoked the night before he took the test. He was also a once a day user. He passed just fine. And that seems fine to me. He wasn't high on the job and the test proved that. That is what it's meant to do, not find habitual smokers.

I am sure that the tester that the cops have is more accurate than the one that my employer has.

On a side note, you can buy this vinegar stuff from a head shop that is supposed to "beat" the test. Who knows if it works. You use it like mouth wash. Most departments here have a "secret" stash somewhere in the walls.

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: JohnCU
they forgot about pain pills and benzos.

Heroin = opiate = pain meds.

Depends on how specific their ligand is. i.e. they might test for all opiates or maybe just heroin or oxycodone or whatever. Certainly can't tell from the article.

It's probably just like a 5 panel strip test...illegal drugs are what they're looking for.

I'm bettin' pain meds would be OK.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: astroidea
I wonder how the amphetamine one would work. I can foresee people with ADD that forgot their proof of medication sitting in a jail cell until they can prove it.

same way it works w/ medical MJ? Write up the ticket, show up to court w/ proof of script.

Only except possession of MJ is a misdemeanor, aka ticket/court, and amphetamine possession is a felony, which I thought was arrest on the spot.

Everyone I know who has been busted for pot went straight to jail, with one exception. Cop pocketed the bag, no ticket.

 

[LTC8K6]

A prescription for a drug does not allow you to drive under the influence of that drug.

Having a prescription for codeine from your dentist will do nothing for you regarding a DUI if this machine detects codeine in your saliva when you are at the wheel.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: IGBT
truckers in calif.are under enhanced random testing as well as .040 BA.

I've had a Class A license for more than 30 years. The ".04" standard has been in effect for nearly all that time.

Having worked as a crane operator in construction, pre-employment and random testing was the norm, as is "post-accident" testing...any injury, even a sprained ankle will get you sent for a "pee test."

Working maritime construction, we were under much stricter testing requirements under the US Coast Guard regs.
A boat would show up unannounced at the barge, everyone on the barge would have to board the boat for a random "quick test" using "dip strips" and a saliva swab. Any positive result meant immediate removal from the job pending a blood test.

I used to laugh at the idiots who came out as new hires. The union halls told everyone at dispatch that the job did drug testing, yet they came out, went for a pee test and worked about 3 days...then the test results came back and they were fired for failing the pre-employment test. :roll:

MOST drug testing labs also test for the "masking agents." The presence of those in a test is also an immediate failure. (lots of people don't seem to grasp that)