lxskllr
No Lifer
They're pretty non-impressive. I don't see these people going anywhere.
Nazis, then and now
Looks like a fun party :^D
Nazis, then and now
Looks like a fun party :^D
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Road Cleaned by Neo-Nazis May Be Named for Rabbi
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Andrew1990
Banned
That picture is of the Detroit district. They are made fun of from the rest.
The 13 district is probably the largest but they know how to keep things quite.
zerocool84
Lifer
You seem to know an aweful lot about them............
lxskllr
No Lifer
I almost feel bad for these guys. It's like throwing a party, and nobody showing up. The old Sieg Heil! just doesn't have the old effect when it's 12 dudes, a few chicks, and a couple of kids :^D
Edit:
Btw, I'm getting the new Nazi photos from this page http://www.nsm88.org/photos/photo.html
They're kind of interesting to look at.
Edit:
Btw, I'm getting the new Nazi photos from this page http://www.nsm88.org/photos/photo.html
They're kind of interesting to look at.
AznAnarchy99
Lifer
I wonder what would happen if a black guy joined their march... Dave Chapelle style LoL.
Sea Moose
Diamond Member
I don't like the Nazis, hell i wish i could go back in time and volunteer to go to Normandy to punch a Nazi in the face.(Nothing i would love more than to slide my Ka Bar into the chest of a nazi) But, America is a free country, i don't agree with their beliefs but they have the right to choose their own path in life, as long as they don't break the law. As lxskllr was saying as long as their numbers are low, they aren't a problem.
We should not forget the lesson learnt by the Nazis. You cannot let evil governments rise to power unchecked. Take North Korea for example, are they extinguishing the lives of their citizens?
We should not forget the lesson learnt by the Nazis. You cannot let evil governments rise to power unchecked. Take North Korea for example, are they extinguishing the lives of their citizens?
I don't think anybody would support the nazi's, QueBert, but we do live in America where you shouldn't be discriminated against based on your beliefs.
That is one of the founding principles of our country. If you let them start taking them away for some people, who knows if you may one day be a part of a "targeted group".
"First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."
ConstipatedVigilante
Diamond Member
There is some really class A trolling going on in this thread.
I find the choice of naming and opposition in that manner to be educational. The Neo-Nazis are engaged in propaganda with one set of views, and the state is bringing to mind the opposite, broader and richer point of view. I think it's great.
The idea however that the state can prevent such groups from coming to being by doing nothing but saying the right things in schools is idiotic.
You apparently didn't learn anything from the Nazi surge. Nazis and such forms of ideology and organization and are not successfully opposed by saying nice words and otherwise doing nothing. Wake up and smell the chambers. I'd expect far more people in reality to be cheering this action, were it not perhaps for the "huh?" factor of "Rabbi" in a public name, and even then many should be bright enough to engage their minds over that hump.
geno
Lifer
Sucks on the Gov't's part, but I'm guessing this is a passive-aggressive way of trying to get their group's name off of the highway. For political reasons, I can see them not supporting or endorsing such a group, but at the same time, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. Either you bar them from putting their name on the highway (which would be pretty lame and perhaps unconstitutional) or just let them do their thing. Don't antagonize them and passive-aggerssively try to get your way.
If there's any one group which should be discriminated against, it's the group which itself calls for sweeping discrimination against all others. Justice would be served by handing them the results of the powers they call for.
However, this is not discrimination, and the nazis rightly see this as a weak response, which is further weakened by the intellectual poverty demonstrated by various posts here for example. The nazis have their freedom of association and expression, and the state also has the freedom of expression in naming highways. Their rights are not taken away by this action -- they're still free to organize and adopt another highway if they don't like the name of this one.
judasmachine
Diamond Member
*snickers
Justice is to be blind, let us not forget. This nation was founded not on an eye for an eye mentality but to foster freedom of expression while protecting the rights of all.
This is, indeed discrimination, if you will allow me to demonstrate.
Nazi's clean a highway -> Highway named after Nazi's -> Highway Renamed to spite them because they are Nazi's.
Boy Scouts clean a highway -> Highway Named after Boy Scouts -> Nothing.
See, that extra step based solely on a dislike for what the group stands for is what makes it discrimination.
Saulbadguy
Diamond Member
Let's not forget, they are "Neo-Nazis". They are dumbasses who deserve no recognition for anything positive they may do in a community. They are morons whom most likely don't even realize the strengths and weaknesses of the national socialist working party, but instead focus their efforts on racial bigotry.
Fuck them.
Fuck them.
rivan
Diamond Member
I just don't think he's funny. At all.
These groups flourish in rural areas where education isn't valued by the community - it's similar to inner city gangs in that respect. If the parents in the community aren't placing any value on education, what's the state going to (or supposed to) do about it?
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it's that clear cut.
As for antagonizing the groups, their participation in the Adopt-a-highway program (a very successful program overall) comes with a road sign that holds their name, paid for by the state. A road sign, paid for by tax dollars, on a state highway, that holds the name of a group that promotes the values they promote isn't right. It's an attempt by the group to legitimize their stance, and according to the courts rulings, it's perfectly legal for them to do so.
This naming is another group's also perfectly legal attempt to turn the whole thing around on them. If the National Socialist's primary concern is the beautification of the highway, they shouldn't care what it's named. If, on the other hand, getting their name and it's associated hatred on a sign is their primary concern, then they're simply using the program for political purposes, which is not it's function.
Saulbadguy
Diamond Member
No. Who said anything about the legality?
rivan
Diamond Member
Seems like you're often looking for people to label racist. Or people to label unintelligent - ironic given your occasional inability to write complete sentences. Take the chip off of your shoulder - you might find life much more pleasant without it.
As for your position, I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that because of their political stance they shouldn't be allowed the same sign everyone else gets for doing the same work?
The trouble with that lies in the slippery slope it creates. You and I can agree this organization shouldn't be represented on a state sign, but on what grounds? Because they favor one race above others? Should the NAACP be denied signs? If you allow some groups signs and deny signs to other groups, who has the power to decide?
waggy
No Lifer
i think this was stupid of the state. instead fo people reading it when they drove its in the news and we are talking about it.
Drpizaa makes a great post. Why give the group ammo. Treat the group the same you would any other and ignore them. Its really not worth the time and hell they are about done anyway.
heh they had a Nazi rally held here in Northern IL. more media showed up then people to support them. it was a joke.
Drpizaa makes a great post. Why give the group ammo. Treat the group the same you would any other and ignore them. Its really not worth the time and hell they are about done anyway.
heh they had a Nazi rally held here in Northern IL. more media showed up then people to support them. it was a joke.
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