Rise Up Doylestown

[Perknose]

D-Town Represent!

The crowds went down the street both ways far more than you can see in my craptastic video. There were maybe 300 plus folks there. It was . . . hot . . . out. I showed up to add my body to the crowd because I am a citizen of the United States of America, and what this administration did with these immigrant kids DOES NOT represent the values and ideals of the country I grew up in.

My area is long legacy Republican majority, but the times, they are a changing. In the last Presidential election, I was heartened that the four counties -- Chester, Montgomery, Delaware and Bucks -- of "The Delaware Valley" of SE PA all voted for President Hilary Clinton, as did American voters country-wide, by a margin of more than 3 million votes.

All four counties have been historically Republican. The county I grew up in, Delaware County, voted for Alf Landon in 1936, in the midst of FDR's landslide, for instance.

I still tell my friends in Philly that I live up with the Cows and Republicans in Bucks County.

Anyway, don't blame us, we voted for Clinton!

 

[compuwiz1]

I'm not sure what you're trying to tell us here, but I can sense your zeal. Dave is excited about something....again. Cool bro, very cool!

 

[Perknose]

I'm not sure what you're trying to tell us here, but I can sense your zeal. Dave is excited about something....again. Cool bro, very cool!

Well, Steve, all across the Republic yesterday, citizens gathered in droves and voiced their opposition to the absolutely inhuman and disgusting and illegal way the Hump Administration was separating asylum-seeking young children from their mothers.

Protesters Across The Country Rally Against Trump's Immigration Policies

“Honestly, I am blown away. I have literally never seen Americans show up for immigrants like this,” said Jess Morales Rocketto, political director at the National Domestic Workers Alliance, which represents nannies, housekeepers and caregivers. ”

All across the country, groups came together in city parks and downtown squares, and photos quickly started ricocheting around social media.

[...]

Marchers gathered in Raleigh, in Pittsburgh, in Louisville, in Houston, in Antler, North Dakota, population 27.

And in Doylestown, Pa.

I went as a representative of my church, and as an American standing up for the highest ideals of my country.

You?

 

[Perknose]

Here 'ya go, pics.

More.

Several hundred people from across Bucks County rallied in the county seat Saturday to make their voices heard on the government’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy.

The sign-carrying demonstrators in Bucks County were part of a nationwide Families Belong Together protest.

Those who attended in the nearly 95 degree heat peacefully protested the immigration policy of President Donald Trump’s administration, voiced concern on the administration’s controversial travel ban, and called on Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf to issue an order to shut down in-state detention facilities for unauthorized immigrants.

“We need to remind to this administration that our America is tolerant,” Alisa Dipietro told the crowd.

Philly.com reported the facility was recently holding about 20 fathers and their children.

 

[Commodus]

I remember when a few of the Trump fans here were convinced protests would stop shortly after inauguration as people learned to submit to their new dictator. Funny how they're still going strong... albeit because the Trump administration just keeps sinking lower and lower in terms of its behavior.

 

[UglyCasanova]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/defend-pdx-patroit-prayer-portland-clash-today-2018-06-30/

 

[ch33zw1z]

@UglyCasanova - that doesn't appear to be related to the topic of this thread. It's an ongoing situation with the white nationalist group Patiot Prayer is focusing on Portland and is engaged in violence with anti fascists.

Shit man, youre not even trying at this point.

 

[UglyCasanova]

How many of the protests mentioned in the OP were violently attacked?

 

[ch33zw1z]

How many of the protests mentioned in the OP were violently attacked?

Your link doesn't support your assertion. Why would the permit be pulled if they were nonviolent?

Those poor Nazis are just minding their own business, their ideals are inherently non-violent, just want a hug.

Wtf is wrong with you.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Your link doesn't support your assertion. Why would the permit be pulled if they were nonviolent?

They pulled the permit once it turned violent, and guess who turned it violent. No matter ones viewpoints we have a right to peaceful assembly. Read through the article and see who started the violence. It doesn’t matter if it’s the damned KKK, if they have a permit and are doing so peacefully they have every right to do their gathering without being violently attacked.

There’s a difference between counter protesting and attacking. Antifa (Anti First Amendment) started throwing eggs, water bottles, and firecrackers at the demonstrators. Police allowed it and then yanked the permit and called it a riot. That’s not ok. If right wingers showed up to one of the rally’s in the OP and started throwing shit and attacking them, would it be ok to yank their permit and call it a riot? Easy way to shut down protests you don’t like, attack them so their permit gets pulled.

 

[ch33zw1z]

They pulled the permit once it turned violent, and guess who turned it violent. No matter ones viewpoints we have a right to peaceful assembly. It doesn’t matter if it’s the damned KKK, if they have a permit and are doing so peacefully they have every right to do their gathering without being violently attacked.

There’s a difference between counter protesting and attacking. Antifa (Anti First Amendment) started throwing eggs, water bottles, and firecrackers at the demonstrators. Police allowed it and then yanked the permit and called it a riot. That’s not ok. If right wingers showed up to one of the rally’s in the OP and started throwing shit and attacking them, would it be ok to yank their permit and call it a riot? Easy way to shut down protests you don’t like, attack them so their permit gets pulled.

Nothing in that article says anti-fascists turned it violent. And you should read the other links in the article you posted.

Like I said, the article doesn't support your assertion, which is based on conjecture.

Look at right winger trying to tell antifa what their name means now. Haha, hope you hug a Nazi today, they could use some loving. So persecuted, so scorned, what have they ever done to anyone anyways.

 

[UglyCasanova]

My bad must have read in different article

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland...rget2box_default_#incart_target2box_targeted_

The afternoon began with a permitted rally at Terry Schrunk Federal Plaza organized by Joey Gibson, U.S. Senate candidate for Washington and leader of the right-wing, Vancouver-based group.

A counter-demonstration by masked local anti-fascist groups gathered nearby among a heavy police presence. Officers seized weapons such as utility knives, clubs and chemical sprays, detaining several protesters early on.

Things turned ugly shortly after 6 p.m., when Patriot Prayer protesters spilled into Third Avenue to begin their permitted march through the streets of Portland.

Antifascist counter-demonstrators immediately began lobbing eggs, half-empty water bottles and firecrackers at the conservative marchers, prompting federal police to fire paintballs filled with pepper spray into the crowd.

 

[ch33zw1z]

My bad must have read in different article

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland...rget2box_default_#incart_target2box_targeted_

Good, at least it's in a link somewhere, but that's not until 6pm, 2 hours after the vent started

The two groups had been building up tension for hours prior to 6pm when it started, as stated by the article. And it also says the groups were heckling back and forth before

Also, the article clearly shows the police presence there was strong overall, and neutralized the threat pretty quickly.

This is not the first protest, Portland has been a thing for sometime.

The Nazis' complaint appears to be the police didn't do enough, yet the article says differently.

Yet, none of that is related to the events in the OP, so you ready for your own thread yet?

And have you hugged a Nazi yet?

Like 3 edit due to pocketing phone for a few

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer?wprov=sfla1

Joey gibson joined up the fight to fight, so while that link says at 6pm antifa started throwing things, Joey gibson, who is also running for a Senate position, isn't a non violent person.

http://www.latimes.com/local/califo...nizer-of-saturday-s-1503868151-htmlstory.html

I'll also add this, I doubt he's actually a Nazi, although Nazis are showing up to support him. He also claims to want peace, yet seems to be around violence regularly.

 

[UglyCasanova]

What does it being 2 hours after it started matter? Is there a timeframe where it’s ok to start attacking?

Police neutralized the threat by yanking the permit of a group of demonstrators because another group started attacking them and declaring it a riot. Don’t like a protest? Attack them so the police shuts them down.

 

[ch33zw1z]

What does it being 2 hours after it started matter? Is there a timeframe where it’s ok to start attacking?

Police neutralized the threat by yanking the permit of a group of demonstrators because another group started attacking them and declaring it a riot. Don’t like a protest? Attack them so the police shuts them down.

It obviously matters because it wasn't peaceful before 6pm anyways.

It's also not the first violent protest in Portland in the last year, or even recent past. This one actually seemed pretty tame compared to the one earlier this month, sorry if I missed your posts about that one.

So again, how does this apply to the thread?

 

[Jhhnn]

Protesters came out against Trump immigration policy all over America but what we need to talk about is that time the Nazis & the Antifa's scuffled in Portland... Cuz free's peach & shit....

 

[UglyCasanova]

It obviously matters because it wasn't peaceful before 6pm anyways.

It's also not the first violent protest in Portland in the last year, or even recent past. This one actually seemed pretty tame compared to the one earlier this month, sorry if I missed your posts about that one.

So again, how does this apply to the thread?

Applies to this thread because none of the OP's demonstrations were attacked. Held all across the country and none attacked. The right is extremely violent and does everything they can to silence the opposition.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Protesters came out against Trump immigration policy all over America

And none were attacked... weird

 

[ch33zw1z]

Applies to this thread because none of the OP's demonstrations were attacked. Held all across the country and none attacked. The right is extremely violent and does everything they can to silence the opposition.

Do you want to violently protest the OPs protests?

If not, are you outraged enough to start your own thread? Or Portland finally popped up on your radar?

Did you post a thread previously about Portland's protests?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Do you want to violently protest the OPs protests?

If not, are you outraged enough to start your own thread?

Did you post a thread previously about Portland's protests?

I don’t want to violently attack anyone’s protests.

Why start my own thread, pointing out the differences in responses from the right & left to demonstrations they disagree with applies to this one.

Have no idea if I started a thread on prior ones or not, what would it matter?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Found a really good PBS article on Portland, and oddly enough written last year.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/features/trump-supporters-portland/

 

[ch33zw1z]

I don’t want to violently attack anyone’s protests.

Why start my own thread, pointing out the differences in responses from the right & left to demonstrations they disagree with applies to this one.

Have no idea if I started a thread on prior ones or not, what would it matter?

It matters wrt context of your assertion, and your outrage. Like antifa throwing stuff is just out of the blue, this was a first time protest, or that the fascists are absolved from their own violence or instigation.

If your outrage is legitimate, you'll go read up on it. In this case you outrage is only because there were peaceful protests that you consider not on your side, and upset that antifa is disrupting fascists from having their own protest.

And your original article says the two rallies we're originally separate, so how did they find each other.

The alt-right and antifa are both know for their violence. At this point, I'm not surprised when either group is violent. In the end, I'm an American, and anti-fascist by default. That doesn't mean I condone violence, but that Senate runnier certainly is drawn to it.

 

[UglyCasanova]

My outrage


Edit: you edit your posts a lot

 

[ch33zw1z]

My outrage

So you're just trolling? Are you disingenuous wrt to the issue? Just a little thread crapping?

Look up the word outrage, maybe just a little righteous indignation.

 

[WelshBloke]

So you're just trolling?

Pure and simple.

OPs post has nothing to do with anything UglyCasanova has posted.