Ripping a copy-protected DVD that you own is illegal?!

waggy

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nope. the act of breaking copy-protection is against the law. I think it is the DMCA law that makes it against the law.
 

SunnyD

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Format shifting is now illegal as of this year as well (exemption was not renewed by the Library of Congress).

So even ripping an unencrypted/unprotected DVD is illegal now.
 
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Fortunately, as mentioned in the article, you won't ever be prosecuted for it unless you happen to be sharing it on the internet. How on Earth would the MPAA know if you were ripping a DVD to your hard drive?
 

SunnyD

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Fortunately, as mentioned in the article, you won't ever be prosecuted for it unless you happen to be sharing it on the internet. How on Earth would the MPAA know if you were ripping a DVD to your hard drive?

Just wait... they'll want a scheme soon that has the DVD drive to "phone home" over the intarweb to authorize whatever content action you desire or something stupid like that.
 

blackdogdeek

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Just wait... they'll want a scheme soon that has the DVD drive to "phone home" over the intarweb to authorize whatever content action you desire or something stupid like that.

That's unnecessary. We're supposed to email the MPAA when we're ripping DVDs of our own volition.

Right? RIGHT? Am I the only one who's been doing this?
 

Broheim

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glad it's legal around here, I bought the damned content and I'll consume it however the hell I want to.
 

Charles Kozierok

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I am aggressively in favor of mechanisms that prevent content creators from being ripped off.

I am aggressively against mechanisms that make life difficult for honest supporters of content creators.
 

Red Squirrel

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It's illegal, but fuck the system. Do it anyway. Especially if you're not redistributing it, how are they going to know? It's sickening how much power the media industry has, that they have the ability to make laws. So much corruption going on it's unbelievable. All this lobbying bullcrap. The entire government should be lined up and shot for allowing this to happen. No company should be able to pay the government to have their way.
 

FelixDeCat

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WinX DVD Ripper Platinum

Quick, fast and takes full advantage of a Sandy i7's 8 cores. It will make backup copies of encrypted DVDs or convert them to another format in an hour or less (usually 1/2 hour). :)
 
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funny story, I bought prometheus for black friday since it was on sale. Found a good night to watch it - popped it in my PS3... Wouldn't play unless I upgraded my PS3 Firmware. No thanks, I don't want to install more ways that Sony can vandalize/fuck-up/spyware my Playstation 3 more :rolleyes: Let's not forget connecting it to the internet first, downloading it, installing it (and hope it doesn't brick it).

Luckily, I had already downloaded a copy, switched my TV to HDMI out for my computer, and played it on that instantly :cool: See what paying for the movies gets you?
 

SunnyD

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WinX DVD Ripper Platinum

Quick, fast and takes full advantage of a Sandy i7's 8 cores. It will make backup copies of encrypted DVDs or convert them to another format in an hour or less (usually 1/2 hour). :)

SB i7's only have 4 cores... (plus hyperthreading)

SB-E i7's can have 6 though...
 

ch33zw1z

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I am aggressively in favor of mechanisms that prevent content creators from being ripped off.

I am aggressively against mechanisms that make life difficult for honest supporters of content creators.

Do you just offer casual observations or solutions? At this point, there is no solution, just illegalities.
 

SheHateMe

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Well fine. I can't do what I want with something I bought for my own personal use.

I won't buy it then...

That's what they want, right?
 

Golgatha

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Well fine. I can't do what I want with something I bought for my own personal use.

I won't buy it then...

That's what they want, right?

Since piracy and ripping our own are both illegal, I think piracy is the best options since it's cheaper, has the same risks associated, and you don't have to use your own CPU cycles to recode the material. Really, it is in your best interest to see which carries the highest risk of getting caught vs the size of the penalty if you do get caught if you want to use your media the way you want to use it.

As to what they want. They want you to license each format of the same content you plan to view. License that movie as a download for your iPhone, iPad, DVD for the car, and Bluray for the bigscreen in the living room is their wet dream for the digital age. Ripping a Bluray and transcoding down the chain for your digital devices robs them of 3 additional revenue streams in their eyes. Also, when you die, since it is a license, your kids get to rebuy everything you used to have access to, and the current copyright terms will dictate that you'll be happy doing that for 3-4 generations (or infinitely if they lobby hard enough perhaps) before it comes into the public domain.

In summary, they reserve the right to prosecute me for ripping and recoding my discs, and I reserve the right to burn their fucking offices to the ground for ruining my life.
 
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SheHateMe

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Since piracy and ripping our own are both illegal, I think piracy is the best options since it's cheaper, has the same risks associated, and you don't have to use your own CPU cycles to recode the material. Really, it is in your best interest to see which carries the highest risk of getting caught vs the size of the penalty if you do get caught if you want to use your media the way you want to use it.

They're trying to fight piracy by punishing people who buy media. That seems counter-productive. I understand the mission, but their methods are stupid.

Its oh so very interesting that they are now trying to make it illegal to rip your movie collection so you could store it on a home server to stream to different TV's around the house, etc.

And they wonder why people would rather downloaded a movie already ripped and ready than to buy it when it has some random DRM shit on it like Cinavia.



I remember taking my CDs to school as a Pre-teen and trading them with my friends for different CDs. We would do this at lunch.

Little did I know this would be criminal today.

I still remember begging my mother to go into FYE and pay $13 for a CD I wanted. I still remember CD's being at the top of my Birthday and Christmas wish lists.

My 5 year old sister will probably never know what its like to actually want to buy a CD and to be able to do what you want with it.


Let see, the first thing I ever pirated was Modern Warefare 1, because my mom bought the game and the serial number did not work. I had my mother call IW's customer service, she sent them pictures and scans of the code. They said it had been used and they refused to issue a new one.

I couldn't have used the code because the game said it wasn't legit. Fine, I downloaded it and was able to play just fine.
The life of a pirate is practically barrier free. Here I am, a PAYING customer with a problem they know they could have fixed..and they refused me and made me feel like I was trying to de-fraud them.
 
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Golgatha

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The life of a pirate is practically barrier free. Here I am, a PAYING customer with a problem they know they could have fixed..and they refused me and made me feel like I was trying to de-fraud them.

They assume and treat you like a criminal regardless, so you might as well act like a criminal.