RIP Micrsoft Windows XP, You Will Be Missed

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: AdamK47
I want to be hip too! Vista sucks!

Why is it so hard for you to believe that people don't like Vista for good reasons? :roll:

It's not that. It's hard for me to believe the people who don't like Vista for invalid reasons.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Journer
good riddance. XP was a decent operating system but more and better are to come. i'm ready for people to stop vista bashing. it is not worse than XP, at least no now.

I don't think you know much about what you are talking about. Maybe great in a dorm room yeah, but Vista is still not as stable as XP is at all.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Journer
good riddance. XP was a decent operating system but more and better are to come. i'm ready for people to stop vista bashing. it is not worse than XP, at least no now.

I don't think you know much about what you are talking about. Maybe great in a dorm room yeah, but Vista is still not as stable as XP is at all.

considering the length which microsoft has had to fix bugs in XP, i would almost hope so.
that being said, i am happily running vista ultimate 32bit without any problems.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Journer
good riddance. XP was a decent operating system but more and better are to come. i'm ready for people to stop vista bashing. it is not worse than XP, at least no now.

I don't think you know much about what you are talking about. Maybe great in a dorm room yeah, but Vista is still not as stable as XP is at all.

Maybe with particular hardware, but for me it is absolutely as stable if not more so.

 

[RU482]

I work for an OEM that, after tomorrow, will be selling computers with only Vista Business COA lablels.

The rule goes, as long as the customer gives us a "signed letter of intent" to purchase 25 machines over the course of 1 year, we can continue to load Windows XP. The funny thing is, there is no policing of this policy by microsoft, so technically, anyone could send us this letter of intent, only purchase one computer, get XP loaded, and get away with it.

In fact, it's a pretty clever loophole. The 25 unit "requirement" might encourage some straight laced customers to purchase more computers than they normally would, just so they can get XP. For other more clever customers, they can buy less than 25 and still get XP. It's kinda of a "wink wink, nod nod" rule by microsoft.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Journer
good riddance. XP was a decent operating system but more and better are to come. i'm ready for people to stop vista bashing. it is not worse than XP, at least no now.

I don't think you know much about what you are talking about. Maybe great in a dorm room yeah, but Vista is still not as stable as XP is at all.

Maybe with particular hardware, but for me it is absolutely as stable if not more so.

like I said...great for the typical dorm room.

Good luck deploying this en masse to 6000 desktops that started with W2K Pro.

Vista only works well when you can plan all the hardware you will run in advance. Not the case in most enterprises.

In a few years Vista will probably begin rolling out in these types of environments.

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Good luck deploying this en masse to 6000 desktops that started with W2K Pro.

I have never once seen a company computer have an OS upgrade. The ones purchased with NT4 still have NT4. Ones with 2k still have 2k. XP still has XP. When it's time to upgrade, the company donates the old computers to a school to get a tax writeoff, and then buys new computers.

 

[alkemyst]

We are just a fortune 500...

 

[Eli]

I just bought a new laptop.

It came with Vista.

I hate it. After consulting the internet, I have at least made it usable. The amount of RAM and CPU cycles it uses with default settings is astounding. Unacceptable.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Well I have had Vista Ultimate x32 and x64bit with zero problems, and it runs perfectly well. Never had it crash once. Not quite sure what all the hate is about. I remember the same bashing when XP was first released tho.

 

[Future Guy]

Awesome name for a new OS Microsoft, it's an acronym for:

Viruses Infections Spyware Trojans Adware


Seriously though, it's just a glorified version of Win XP that just happened to take a few steps backward IMO. In time that will be fixed hopefully.

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Well I have had Vista Ultimate x32 and x64bit with zero problems, and it runs perfectly well. Never had it crash once. Not quite sure what all the hate is about. I remember the same bashing when XP was first released tho.

Most of the hate comes from driver/software incompatibilities or trying to put Vista on a computer that's older than two.

 

[Bateluer]

People bash every new MS OS that arrives. People bashed DOS when it was first released, they bashed Windows when it was first released, they bashed Windows 95 when it was first released. 98 was bashed, oh god was Me bashed. All the WinNT variants were bashed, 2000 was bashed. When XP was first released, people ranted and raved about how it looked fisher-price and that it would end up being a massive failure and that everyone should stick with 2000, despite claiming everyone should stick with 98 when 2k was released.

Vista is no different than these prior OSs. When Windows 7 ships, you'll see people bashing 7 and claiming that we should all run Vista. Mark my words, it will happen.

 

[ajskydiver]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
People bash every new MS OS that arrives. People bashed DOS when it was first released, they bashed Windows when it was first released, they bashed Windows 95 when it was first released. 98 was bashed, oh god was Me bashed. All the WinNT variants were bashed, 2000 was bashed. When XP was first released, people ranted and raved about how it looked fisher-price and that it would end up being a massive failure and that everyone should stick with 2000, despite claiming everyone should stick with 98 when 2k was released.

Vista is no different than these prior OSs. When Windows 7 ships, you'll see people bashing 7 and claiming that we should all run Vista. Mark my words, it will happen.

One of the few that remembers how things were...this Vista bitching is the same old story.

The OS forum was on fire with hate & condemnation when XP came out and now it's a virtual love fest... nothing like selective memory.

 

[OutHouse]

the one thing i noticed on my laptop running vista is that i hear the hard drive running a lot more than i do with my laptop with XP. even after a fresh boot with no apps running and 30 min later i can still hear it clicking. i have 3gigs of ram so i have no idea why there is so much I/O to the drive. any idea or am i just the only one?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: waggy
I like some of the features in Vista. but i can understand why busines don't want it. its just not as stable or solid as XP is

That's pretty much how I feel. I love the idea behind Vista. Some of the features are absolutely amazing...if they all worked as intended. 😉

That day will come in due time. I still use Vista at home though because I want to be familiar with it due to my line of work.

 

[CottonRabbit]

Originally posted by: Citrix
the one thing i noticed on my laptop running vista is that i hear the hard drive running a lot more than i do with my laptop with XP. even after a fresh boot with no apps running and 30 min later i can still hear it clicking. i have 3gigs of ram so i have no idea why there is so much I/O to the drive. any idea or am i just the only one?

I'm guessing it's indexing. I actually turned that off since I'm pretty organized and know where all my files are.

I have had vista on my desktop and laptop for a year now and they both run flawlessly. My budget laptop with vista basic only has a 1.6ghz celeron, 1.5 gb ram, and integrated gma 950 graphics, yet it's not any less smooth or stable than my much beefier desktop. Superfetch alone is enough of a reason to upgrade, and vista x64 is far better supported than XP x64.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I will guarantee that 99% of the people blasting Vista in this thread have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Not a clue

Read up on what all MS did in the back end of Vista and then try to argue that XP is better--- sorry no way. For a business, obviously it is much harder to integrate everything they use right now, but for the average user, there is no reason not to go to Vista (Ubuntu makes a nice second OS too 🙂 )

I agree that Vista did a lot of background/behind the scenes stuff that is much better. Unfortunately the issue is that it was poorly implemented on the front end. If they had left the GUI more XP-like and kept things simple, it would have been a GREAT OS. Unfortunately they wanted to make it look like OS X.

I was the biggest Vista supporter. Downloaded the dock for XP when it was still "Longhorn", downloaded RC1 beta and installed it to play around with it (other then the issues with UAC I loved it), installed the final released OS on my XP rig as a dual boot. I now hate Vista. First when installing drivers (that were Vista certified drivers mind you), it hosed the Vista install. Okay fine no biggie, just reinstall it. Go to boot back into XP, and its corrupted and unbootable. So I said "okay this isn't ready yet... I'll give it time and then try it again."

Now over a year later, I have been using Vista on an ex's laptop, two friends laptops, and my gf's laptop. I hate the OS. It is buggy, slow, and so bloated that I would rather use my Motorola Q to google something (and my phone sucks now) then use Vista.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: AnnonUSA

Originally posted by: OOBradm

There is one thing that absolutely mandates an update however, and that's security. Vista finally has a real sudo-style security system, it even sandboxes IE. People bitch and moan about how they got owned because XP is insecure, then they bitch and moan about Vista because it starts enforcing security. It can't be both ways, either there will be security or there will not; there's no such thing as transparent security in this case.

Microsofts answer to security, UAC, is simply a way to shift responsibility away from their products when they get compromised. The average, or novice user will stop paying attention to UAC warnings within 2 or three weeks and either turn it off, or simply hit "Allow" by default. It is human nature.


I have XP Pro. My system has never been hit with adware, spyware or a virus of any kind that was not detected and dealt with before it did any damage. The current system has been running for 2 years and I've never had to reformat or reload the OS. It may be a little more work keeping XP Secure, but it most certainly can be done.

UAC is an attempt to combat the biggest security hole in Windows - the user. Most spyware and viruses are spread because of the actions of the USER, not because of flaws in Windows. Knowledgeable people don't even need anti-spyware software. I never get spyware. I used to have to clean up my mother-in-law's and my brother's computers all the time. I set them up with limited user accounts in XP, and now they never get spyware. That right there is proof that the user is the problem.

QFMFT

This man speaks the truth.

I have been virus-free for years with NO anti-virus. The only time I installed it was at Quakecon because I am downloading files and I kind of view it as Limewire in ease of viruses.

 

[Nitemare]

Still have XP at work and pretty much 90% of the people here hate Vista

 

[RandomFool]

Good, maybe now people will stop complaining about Vista.

 

[Gothgar]

XP was awesome, goodbye

I switched to Vista recently though and I am perfectly content with it.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Still have XP at work and pretty much 90% of the people here hate Vista

90% of the people who I hear complaining about Vista know next to nothing about computers, or why they hate Vista.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Still have XP at work and pretty much 90% of the people here hate Vista

90% of the people who I hear complaining about Vista know next to nothing about computers, or why they hate Vista.

Probably because they are all engineers and developers and don't like to have to write their own drivers.

The GUI and visual aspects of it are nice, but OMG at the nag messages and the inability to actually change a system file

 

[MaxDepth]

My company runs in a validated FDA-regulated environment. Try to put anything new in this environment and you will know pain. Hence, no Vista at all. (XP with SP2 and IE6)

As for my home, I see no need for Vista. My Win2K and WinXP licenses are good for whatever upgrades I've gone through. I see no need to buy any additional licenses because when one computer is too old, I usually build and just transfer the license. (Except for one laptop in the house.)

I've been playing around with different flavors of Linux but so far none can do what Windows does for me right now. That is, no Linux can operate my Avermedia HDTV card and TV component out is way too flaky.