RIP Brittany Maynard :(

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Scarpozzi

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Good luck getting a dime out of insurance. I'm guessing they'll claim this as suicide and won't pay out.
 

PokerGuy

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alkemyst

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retarded. my uncle was diagnosed with lung cancer and they said he had at most 6 months to live. he ended up living over 3 years longer than that 6 month period. that is 3 more years he got to spend with his family and i'm sure him and his immediate family was extremely grateful that he didn't just wimper over and accept death like this woman did. he had the will to live and it showed and he way outlived what the time table was.

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although it sounds like she was in pretty bad shape towards the end, so meh, whatever. still think it's dumb because there is always hope if you believe there is, but it sounded like all hope was already lost.

It's clear you like many others think she was just taking an easy way out.

She was not going to make it.

My mother beat cancer three times, this last bout she had I am sure she would have liked to do this. She had no hope...the cancer was not going into remission and her body was dying on her.

Instead of the chemo killing the leiomyosarcoma, it destroyed all the linings in her GI tract and tons of various bacterias and infections set in. Add that to being on a ventilator where you can't even explain your last few moments in conversation and one may as well have died sooner than later.

Most of the family was with her for the last few weeks. My dad took a early lunch her final day, it was probably the only 15-20mins she was alone during the last couple months of her life. That was when she decided to allow herself to die.

They say that happens a lot...many hang on because they don't want to see a loved one watch that last minute of their life in one last struggle for life.

IMHO, it's one's own life; they should be able to do what they want with it.
 

Jimzz

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Thanks for the edumacation. Learned something new today, seems like they put some thought into it -- highly unusual for lawmakers! ;)

Sadly that's the first thing I thought of as well. I am glad they not only have this protection in Oregon but also thought about other issues that may come up.
 

Mai72

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I have student loan debt. Also, a tad depressed.

Hello Oregon? :)
 

Brovane

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Thanks for the edumacation. Learned something new today, seems like they put some thought into it -- highly unusual for lawmakers! ;)

Thank you - The law seems really well written and I believe it could be modeled nationally. Overall it seems to be working well with the safeguards put in place.
 

ImpulsE69

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Each person is different. I've seen multiple friends and family go through the cancer scenario. Some got over it and are living healthy lives. One got passed it, had 3-4 years of good life then suddenly died when it came back, but did not really suffer, and others suffered through the time they had left. Those were the hardest to watch.
 

Jeff7

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retarded. my uncle was diagnosed with lung cancer and they said he had at most 6 months to live. he ended up living over 3 years longer than that 6 month period. that is 3 more years he got to spend with his family and i'm sure him and his immediate family was extremely grateful that he didn't just wimper over and accept death like this woman did. he had the will to live and it showed and he way outlived what the time table was.

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although it sounds like she was in pretty bad shape towards the end, so meh, whatever. still think it's dumb because there is always hope if you believe there is, but it sounded like all hope was already lost.
Tumor cells don't really care much about what your brain is thinking is possible or probable. They'll do what they naturally do regardless, and divide unimpeded.
Hope isn't the solution to everything that it's popularly touted as.

Can it help sometimes? Sure. But ultimately, causality and the rest of the Universe isn't going to obey the wishes present in a high-order primate's central nervous system.

She saw a short path ahead of her with a steadily increasing amount of suffering for her and anyone who knew her. Also available was the option of determining where that path would end.



For those who say that suffering is some greatly valuable thing, two words: Stockholm Syndrome. Reality throws some lousy situations at people, whether it is from the terrible actions of other people, or from defective genes or diseases that cause you to suffer or die. So you rationalize it, and say that the suffering is a good thing, and then even work to the monstrous end of ensuring that others will suffer even when they can choose to end it.
 
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Kadarin

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I don't understand people who argue against allowing people to have the freedom to end our lives on their own terms.
 

Fritzo

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I don't understand people who argue against allowing people to have the freedom to end our lives on their own terms.

Exactly. How many medical expenses would they rack up, how much pain and suffering would she have to go through, and how hurtful and burdensome to the family would it have been to just let her lie in a hospital bed and waste away.

My wife's grandmother was in that boat. She had inoperable colon cancer. She was in constant pain and required a 24/7 high dosage morphine drip that basically turned her into a vegetable. She held on for 4 months, but she was just a shell...there was no person left in there, and the family had to watch this every single day.

If you have a terminal illness and the effects are getting severe, I would rather take my own life for the sake of the ones I love as well. I would want them to remember me for what I was, not what I had become.
 

Brovane

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Some people are really stupid. Really isn't anymore complicated than that.

Here is one of those stupid people.

Janet Morana, executive director of the group Priests for Life, said in a statement after hearing of Maynard's death: "We are saddened by the fact that this young woman gave up hope, and now our concern is for other people with terminal illnesses who may contemplate following her example. Our prayer is that these people will find the courage to live every day to the fullest until God calls them home. Brittany's death was not a victory for a political cause. It was a tragedy, hastened by despair and aided by the culture of death invading our country."
 

dawp

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I don't understand people who argue against allowing people to have the freedom to end our lives on their own terms.

A lot has to do with religious views, i.e., it a sin to take your own life.

If I was in her shoes I would not want to put my family through what maybe a terrible ordeal.

^^^^exactly.
 

Jeff7

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Some people are really stupid. Really isn't anymore complicated than that.
Here is one of those stupid people.
Janet Morana, executive director of the group Priests for Life, said in a statement after hearing of Maynard's death: "We are saddened by the fact that this young woman gave up hope, and now our concern is for other people with terminal illnesses who may contemplate following her example. Our prayer is that these people will find the courage to live every day to the fullest until God calls them home. Brittany's death was not a victory for a political cause. It was a tragedy, hastened by despair and aided by the culture of death invading our country."
"The culture of death invading our country."

Wow, it's like the answer to a homework assignment where the instruction was "The Salem Witch Trials were an example of moral panic. Please provide a written example of a different scenario to show your understanding of the definition of moral panic."
 

dmcowen674

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RIP. Brain cancer is some nasty stuff. Mom passed away in August from brain cancer. It's horribly debilitating.

EDIT: And for those that are saying there is always hope, etc. My mom was diagnosed with breast cancer 11 years ago. Once the brain cancer set in, she lived for 2 months. You get an aggressive brain cancer and there is no hope. NONE. it's sad.

Same happened to my Mom. Breast cancer hit the brain and gone in 5 days.

RIP Brittany

Brave young woman gone too soon.