RIP Anne McCaffrey.

DaveSimmons

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RIP. She also wrote other good SF alone and with others like The Ship Who Sang, Crystal Singer, the Planet Pirates / Sassinak series with Elizabeth Moon.
 

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I can't believe how upset I just got. I actually teared up. I have been reading her stuff since I could read. Even thought her son has taken over the PERN novels, she will greatly missed.
 

Tobolo

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RIP. She also wrote other good SF alone and with others like The Ship Who Sang, Crystal Singer, the Planet Pirates / Sassinak series with Elizabeth Moon.

The Freedom series was some of the best she every wrote.
 

BoomerD

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Her "Dragon Riders" series was one of the few in the fantasy genre I ever read.

RIP.
 

UberNeuman

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So many books to read - and not enough time... Anne McCaffrey's works I've heard are among the best - where should a newbie start?

\rest in peace, Anne.
 

skyking

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I read many of her works, and did not know she was in my parent's generation.
 

thebestMAX

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Strange!!! I hadnt thought about her or her books for years and then just 2 days ago I recommended the Dragonrider series to someone looking for something else in the way of fantasy on a GOT forum and now this.

RIP
 

AnitaPeterson

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Meh... I'm sorry, but McCaffrey was not a good writer; her prose was awkward.
There seems to be a bunch of writers specialised in the fantasy genre who keep on churning stuff by the truckload, and most of it is really bad... McCaffrey was one, Raymond Feist is another... I call it "literary diarrhea".

As a hard-core science-fiction reader born and raised in Europe, I always wondered about the somewhat dubious reputation of this genre in North America; after arriving here, it seems to me that a) science-fiction is often too often conflated with (children's) fantasy (even though they should really be separated!) and b) there's an inordinate amount of endless series (serials?) that occupy lots of shelf space in bookstores and libraries, drowning in noise the real masters.

I think that book series are a manifestation of literary dilution, and they seem to "calcify" writers in familiar patterns. Even some of the most deservedly famous among them have weak books ("Dune" come to mind, "The Foundation" is another example, and even the "Ender" series has petered out [sic!] beyond the third volume); don't get me started on series that take a life of their own and are maintained by writers who have very little in common with the original author.

Honestly, I think the temptation to write endless series come mostly from their steady financial promise and appeal. Very few writers do so because they really have good direction and development.

But, in reality, most of the *really* good books are standalones (or singletons).
 

Specop 007

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Meh... I'm sorry, but McCaffrey was not a good writer; her prose was awkward.
There seems to be a bunch of writers specialised in the fantasy genre who keep on churning stuff by the truckload, and most of it is really bad... McCaffrey was one, Raymond Feist is another... I call it "literary diarrhea".

As a hard-core science-fiction reader born and raised in Europe, I always wondered about the somewhat dubious reputation of this genre in North America; after arriving here, it seems to me that a) science-fiction is often too often conflated with (children's) fantasy (even though they should really be separated!) and b) there's an inordinate amount of endless series (serials?) that occupy lots of shelf space in bookstores and libraries, drowning in noise the real masters.

I think that book series are a manifestation of literary dilution, and they seem to "calcify" writers in familiar patterns. Even some of the most deservedly famous among them have weak books ("Dune" come to mind, "The Foundation" is another example, and even the "Ender" series has petered out [sic!] beyond the third volume); don't get me started on series that take a life of their own and are maintained by writers who have very little in common with the original author.

Honestly, I think the temptation to write endless series come mostly from their steady financial promise and appeal. Very few writers do so because they really have good direction and development.

But, in reality, most of the *really* good books are standalones (or singletons).

Theres only so much development that can be done in the constraints of 1 book though. Certainly its easy (For a skilled writer) to write an excellent single book. But there is also the fact that a skilled writer can write a series which in its whole ends up being much better than any single book simply because of the ability to give more time to developments in the story.

I would consider the Dark Tower series by King to be a good example of this as well as the Interview with a Vampire series and even the Lord of the Ring series.

However in a general sense I do have to agree with you. It seems theres almost a universal truth that the more books that are written in a series the greater the chance of the series starting to trend downhill in quality. I think the Wheel of Time series demonstrates this remarkably well.

I havent read the entire Pern series but what I have read I found to be very enjoyable. I'm curious if you've had the chance to finish the Pern series?
 

JTsyo

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Meh... I'm sorry, but McCaffrey was not a good writer; her prose was awkward.
There seems to be a bunch of writers specialised in the fantasy genre who keep on churning stuff by the truckload, and most of it is really bad... McCaffrey was one, Raymond Feist is another... I call it "literary diarrhea".

As a hard-core science-fiction reader born and raised in Europe, I always wondered about the somewhat dubious reputation of this genre in North America; after arriving here, it seems to me that a) science-fiction is often too often conflated with (children's) fantasy (even though they should really be separated!) and b) there's an inordinate amount of endless series (serials?) that occupy lots of shelf space in bookstores and libraries, drowning in noise the real masters.

I think that book series are a manifestation of literary dilution, and they seem to "calcify" writers in familiar patterns. Even some of the most deservedly famous among them have weak books ("Dune" come to mind, "The Foundation" is another example, and even the "Ender" series has petered out [sic!] beyond the third volume); don't get me started on series that take a life of their own and are maintained by writers who have very little in common with the original author.

Honestly, I think the temptation to write endless series come mostly from their steady financial promise and appeal. Very few writers do so because they really have good direction and development.

But, in reality, most of the *really* good books are standalones (or singletons).

I love long series. Not a big fan of fantasy but read a lot of sci-fi. The long story arcs and familiar characters is something I enjoy.
 

Pheran

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Meh... I'm sorry, but McCaffrey was not a good writer; her prose was awkward.
There seems to be a bunch of writers specialised in the fantasy genre who keep on churning stuff by the truckload, and most of it is really bad... McCaffrey was one, Raymond Feist is another... I call it "literary diarrhea".

I'll have to disagree on her earlier stuff but I wouldn't be surprised if this was true of the later books - I haven't read much Pern beyond the original trilogies. You are absolutely right that too many writers keep writing poor rehashes of the same thing over again.
 

thedarkwolf

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Anne's Pern books are kind of hit or miss. Some I really enjoy and others are meh. Haven't read any of her other books. Todd, Anne's son, has taken over the Pern series and is doing a good job of destroying it. Pern is a bit different than most series in that they take place over a 2500 year timeline. Anne's books mostly take place at the beginning and end of the timeline and Todd's are somewhere in the middle.
 
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